Ill take the pictures bro, you dont need to bring your camera

>ill take the pictures bro, you dont need to bring your camera
>oh you bought a new camera?
>no i got an iphone
why do people think that phone cameras could even compete with actual digital cameras?

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My sister is exactly like this
She thinks shes a photographer because she takes pictures of trash with an instagram filter over it

>phone cameras could even compete with actual digital cameras

I hate people who are a reverse of this: They think they are photographers when they have a decent actual digital camera.

>Get phone that is about 1000
>Go on FB all day, Instagram ecc
>I wasted 1000, boo, what I'm going to do?
>If there was a way for my subconscious to show me that I didn't throw away 1000 for seeing Facebook on a 18:9(1/2) screen!

>Disgusting boys looking at my feet
>Stop responding!!

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>Be me
>Formerly a photographer
>get 'volunteered' into taking sports pics for former high school with my digital SLR gear
>corral team into team shot at the end of the day after they win bigtrophy.jpg
>standing on box to get everyone in
>finish snapping, step off box
>literally fall into crowd of about 30 parents who have bunched around me without warning, all snapping away on phones

>1. No, you will not get the same shot or have same quality pic
>2. I literally told you all I would post pics to dropbox
>3. I fell into the crowd on purpose after I noticed it forming while taking pics kek

Thanks for telling us about your life.
You can stop now.

Thanks for helping me decide what to do for my 15th birthday party

I have 3 professional cameras and a lot of lenses, I'm a professional camera operator and used tons of cameras up to 10k€ and video cameras up to 70k€

Now I bought a Xiaomi A1 which has one of the shittiest cameras on the market and it can do pic related

Sure I know everything about cameras and I know every pro and cons of them, they are needed for serious stuff... But you can take excellent pictures with your phone, that's a fact

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Because they actually can if you're not taking low-light or high speed photography. Especially if the OIS is good.

>Boring subject
>Clashing contrast
>Muh bokeh
>Muh rule of thirds
>Professional

Okay, I believe you. Profesional first year photography student maybe.

Or the first picture I found in my gallery that doesn't show a face and just show how "good enough" a phone picture can be

My main job is actually in video design (creating stuff for video scenography) but I actually still get jobs as an operator which sure

I thought this thread was in Jow Forums, I didn't expect the standard edgy /p/ reply from someone who thinks can actually talk about art

What's edgy about explaining that you aren't as good at photography as you claim to be? It's just a statement.

>Giving artistic salty comments on someone's work based on a single anonymous picture posted on a technology board just to make a technological point over a silly debate on phone cameras

Wooow, I'm lucky the people that pay me good money for what I do doesn't know I took a shitty picture once!

unrelated but what talents or skill do photographers require?

Is this part of your professional portfolio?

Also I never said I'm a good photographer cause I'm not, that's not my main job and I don't care. I said that I was hired as a photographer from time to time (true), that I'm often hired as camera operator (true) and that in general I work in this field. But mostly I just said that I know everything about cameras and that can also be considered true, but it is completely unrelated to how artistically valuable my shots are. I work with images for a living, I'm not the new Cartier Bresson but that can be said for 99.999% of people doing this job and that doesn't mean that nobody in this world except you can post a photo online

You edgy boy

For low tier jobs like wedding/press you're just supposed to know how to lift a camera, turn it on and take a shot with decent composition/exposure/sharpness, being actually good is a plus that will eventually give you more clients and higher prices but I know a lot of shitty photographers coming from the 80s that run a successful business.

If you want to get into the commercial business where your work will end in advertising you'll be required to know how to actually talk through images, modify your style in order to communicate the clients ideas. It's harder but still doable for everyone with a fully working brain

>Professional portfolio

It's just the first decent shot that showed no faces I found on my phone gallery from my last holiday with friends, that's nowhere near something professional. I said I'm a professional just to say I know a thing or 2 about cameras.

Also I don't have a photographic portfolio cause I'm not a photographer, I'm an operator/video designer and I'm too young to run my business so I just get called from different clients when they need me

You specifically upheld that photograph as an example of mobile phone cameras being good though, you yourself selected it and chose to display it as an example of your work. Nobody asked you to do so.

So now take criticism like a man instead of a baby and accept that your opinion on mobile phone sensors is wrong or post a better example if you like.

Except from the dynamic range not on par with a Hasselblad what is wrong TECHNICALLY with that picture? Colors are decent (and with a more careful post production can become good), sharpness is decent and the parallax algorithm made a good job in automatically blurring the background. Also the double camera system you find in most newer phones fixed the ugliest problem we had in older phones, the forced wide angle. Wide angle can be considered ugly when you want to photograph only one subject and that was the main problem with smartphones until a year ago, now that a lot of them have a standard lens you can take shots with a nicer focal if you need to.

It's not like we're still in the N70 era, now you can take decent shots with your phone and the average guy may not need a dedicated camera anymore. And the difference between now and 2012 (when smartphones maker started caring about cameras) is that you can not only use your smartphone for taking a usable photo, you can also hope to take a nicer photo. Of course if you are a professional you want to be sure that you have the best tool you can buy in your hands, but that's another story

Seriously when I hear comments about art on Jow Forums I don't know what you guys expect from the average person who wants to have fun and see/create something nice and meaningful which is what art's all about, you're not smart if you criticize someone who wants to show you its stuff. Especially if I'm doing it with the only purpose of defending a technological advancement.

But you know, keep thinking whatever you want and keep telling people that they can't take a nice photo unless they spend 3 grands on a full frame camera. I'll keep telling people that the whole point of taking shots is to have fun and they can learn and do something good with a 200€ used DSLR and now even with a phone. Then when your job justify a better tool you can go for it.

Everything else is consumerism, something I don't want in art.

True

lol depth of field alone does not make an excellent camera

>thinking that anything out of focus is "bokeh"
>just another armchair /g specialist

I give up

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>"Professional photographer"
>used tons of cameras up to 10k€
>video cameras up to 70k€
>Sure I know everything about cameras

lol you seem a bit butthurt that you got called out there, newfriend