Using Cloudflare's new DNS 1.1.1.1?
developers.cloudflare.com
WELL GUESS WAT.
Cloudflare will not retain or sell or transfer to any third party (except as described in the section below and as may be required by law) any personal information, IP addresses or other user identifiers from the DNS queries sent to the Cloudflare Resolver;
"except as described in the section below and as may be required by law"
so they will send your information TO THE POLICE.
So don't use it. :l
That's every company dipshit
they have to find a way around it, like NOT LOGGING YOUR INFORMATION MAYBE.
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They're a site host
It's their job to have information logged
in a DNS though, which isn't ONLY on cloudflare websites!
look at this: dns.watch
it promises a lot but i see no legal documents wtf
*nose grows*
:^l
Well, no shit dipshit. If you're doing illegal shit and the police gives them a legal notice, they're forced to comply and give over your shit to them, or have their business shut down. What the fuck do you think they'll do?
Face it, this isn't the 90s anymore. The internet is no longer the place to conduct illegal shit or download kiddie porn. Maybe, and that's a big MAYBE, you can do that on Tor nodes, but that's it. If you're doing illegal shit on the normie internet, you will get fucked over one way or the other if anyone wants to fuck you up.
Just use dns.watch already, user.
>If you're doing illegal shit and the police gives them a legal notice, they're forced to comply and give over your shit to them, or have their business shut down
ISPs need to keep logs. There's no legal reason for DNS servers to keep logs, same goes for VPN servers which is why they've become popular the last few years. They DO need to comply with law enforcement but can't really give something they don't have...
they should make some kind of "uh oh the police are here" system that auto anonymizes all info
where are the legal documents that force them to do what they say they do?
More like "uh oh, police finds out you're intentionally trying to trick them and fuck over an investigation, you're getting your ass thrown into court for trying to protect a criminal"
Like I said, if you want to do illegal shit, just do it on Tor. Doing it on the "regular" internet is actively trying to get your ass thrown in jail.
it should not be a dns server's responsibility to help with the law.
It is however the responsibility of an individual and organisation not to impede an investigation.
This.
>Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsified, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under Title 11, or in relation to or contemplation of any such matter or case, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.
This is why you simply set your shit not to log by default. Then you can state "it never logged" and be fine. If you used to log and then do anything to fuck with the logs, now you're in the legal shit.
We'd have privacy laws already if it weren't for hawkish cuckservatives.
auto anonimize all data as soon as it is procured without saving ANYTHING unanonymised, why would they even need it to not be anonymous it is more useful to them if they have a summary.
its not impeding, its helping to catch someone.
if they need dns traffic, they are trying to catch them for doing something ON THE INTERNET which should be 100% free for all kinds of people no matter how evil.
>scam
What took you so long to realize?
the only data i am ok with companies having is how many times EVERYONE did something like a hit counter.
or how fast internet is in a city and stuff.
>auto anonimize all data
Don't collect the data in the first place. Simply disable logging. If you never logged in the first place, there's no legal problem. Unless it's been written into law that logging must happen. Which ISPs are subject to. The EU has mandatory data logging by ISPs, for I think two years. Ironically, the US has not introduced a similar law. But they don't really need to when the NSA are hoovering everything up at the Utah Data Centre.
DNS hardly matters since ISPs will gladly sell all your browsing history and give it away for free for no reason to the police and let them look at it and misinterpret it.
"how to build a bomb" someone searches, not meaning to actually build a bomb but wanting to know how it is done.
Wooooow a company operating out of X country has to obey by X countries laws?
COLOR ME BLACK SON
Cloudflare isn't going to let the FBI shut them down because you're a mentally ill pedophile.
i should be able to look at child porn AS LONG AS IT DOESNT SUPPORT THE CHILD RAPIST (like if its animated) if i wanted to if i was curious, just not actually rape a child.
the whole point of the 1.1.1.1 is to log and analyze traffic that gets sent there. thats the only reason they got the ip range in the first place
You should definitely not. That should be a heinous crime and you should go to jail and get raped by niggers for it.
i have seen animated cp in a youtube thumbnail somehow.
don't break the law then
fuck off nobody deserves years of boredom JUST FOR DOWNLOADiNg a fEW binary bOiS.
SUPPORTING a child rapist on purpose should be illegal, but not viewing. but i dont want to.
semi legal cp means less pedophiles on the street more on the internet.
I don't want more pedophiles on the Internet. I want more pedophiles in prison. You fuck off, you degenerate piece of filth!
Sure is NAMBLA in here.
you are anti freedom so you are the degenerate.
i feel restricted every day for what i can search, i want to search for a woman fucking a horse just to see if it would actually fuck a human but i cant bcus laws.
>North American Man/Boy Love Association
lol fuck nambla.
young children are not old enough to decide yet.
You're gonna feel restricted in jail when Tyrone and Jamal hold you down while D'Shawn ravages your butthole for being a filthy child molester.
The thing is, creating and publishing that kind of content encourages the consumers to chase and find more of said content, including looking for more hardcore content, such as actual child porn, which is very much illegal and rightfully so.
The solution is to not allow any kind of child porn, animated or not, period.
Take your degeneracy elsewhere, thanks.
I don't care. You're a piece of shit and I hate you and your kind with all my heart.
how can i possibly make this more clear, i d o n t w a n t t o d o s t u f f t o c h i l d r e n and i dont want it happening to children, but VIEWING IT shouldnt be illegal.
It's a matter of time until you do. All of your kind are the same and deserve harsh punishment.
it is the police's job to stop them. not mine.
inb4 ai generated child porn. ecks dee
How can I possible make this more clear: YES VIEWING IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL!
oh u still dont understand?
i also dont want to see child porn, and no website like Jow Forums would actually host it or lose reputation.
You're still disgusting and still should go to jail because you have degenerate desires towards children. And you still fail to understand that.
>what is supply and demand
Kill yourself
well then everyone is just going to say it was an accident, promoting lying.
viewing it should not be illegal because you might do it by accident, or by curiousity to find out if you are a pedo and get help or something.
legal consequences wont help. soon all the ppl looking at cp will be the ones with 80.001 proxies and what are you going to do then?
its like evolution.
We live in a post-scarcity world, you brainlet.
>i-it was just an accident
Not an acceptable defence. Enjoy prison rape.
troll
supply and demand is a problem in this case.
HOSTING cp should be illegal. maybe that will solve it a little bit.
For child pornography? Are you sure pedophile?
this is more of a Jow Forums thing.
i am glad i am anonymous on this site because not everyone is like me, wanting freedom from prison for all who DONT NEED TO BE STOPPED IMMEDIATELY.
jail should be used to CONTAIN not to PUNISH. for fuck sake.
They probably don't log anything by default, but if the US government comes to them saying "yeah, we need you to start logging all requests made from address x.y.z.w and give them to us", Cloudflare has to either comply or commit corporate suicide like Lavabit did.
to make things simpler:
viewing child porn should not be illegal.
hosting child porn should be illegal.
we need to build a firewall.
we need a better dns, isp, and search engine that dont log our unanonymised data.
i hate the world and i am beginning to think this is a big hell simulation jail and my sentence is my life.
>viewing child porn should be illegal
FTFY
it was not broken in the first place. that is what i believe because people might do it accidentally.
stop misinterpreting me yall gay.
>people might do it accidentally
No, they might not. That's not a defense (in the legal sense of the word "defense"). That's very a loose use of the word "accidentally" also. One might "accidentally" have sex with a child and then claim it was just "accidental" because the child lied about their age. It's still a crime anyway and people still get sent to jail and registered as sex offenders for it. I don't see why you should be any different, you disgusting degenerate.
haha crazy idea, maybe the government should provide child porn to people who are going to molest children if they don't have it.
im sure they have a huge database of it somewhere.
sex is overrated anyway.
if the other sex consents and is fully grown but not above 16 the punishment should be dropped.
like if the other person was 13 but had the body of a 20 year old.
idk its a mystery.
if a liberal AI with no emotions took over the world these are the kind of laws it would make.
>be OP
>make thread about privacy
>it devolves into a mess of pedo bait, counter-bait and master-bait, with anons shouting past each other about CP
>this happens every time
Start a thread about cryptography anytime, user, and watch it devolve into something even uglier.
anti End to End Encryption people.
"Military-grade encryption"
>posts lolbertarian bullshit
>turns out to be a paedo
like pottery
now i have to start a thread about the right way to spell PEDO. WHiCh I aM NOt AaAaAA
well memed
dumb yank nonce
Have you read any other privacy policies?
this is fucking brilliant
>This is why you simply set your shit not to log by default.
Sounds like someone who has never worked in IT.
Good luck troubleshooting.
yeah google is evil and tracks ur location and your search history just read it.
hopefully they actually anonymise correctly.
no u
i cant change their server's options. :S
they log it without consent. oOOoOoOO CyBerRapE
All the
>muh pedo b8
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>hurr durr if you don't do anything wrong you've got nuffin to hide
aside,
looking at the statement
>Cloudflare will not sell, license, sublicense, or grant any rights to your data to any other person or entity without your consent.
If they aren't storing my info, how exactly are they going to get my consent?
>There is some telemetry information (i.e. performance related metrics), however, that Cloudflare will store indefinitely as part of its permanent logs in order to assist Cloudflare in enhancing the overall performance of Cloudflare Resolver and identifying security threats
Literally - we aren't going to store your data except when we do.
>Specifically, APNIC will be permitted to access query names, query types, resolver location and other metadata via a Cloudflare API
>APNIC has also agreed not to use the data in any manner that would allow it to associate any individual with a DNS query, or publish any studies containing any references to particular query names or individual behavior.
Because NO 3rd party EVER did a turnaround on something they said they wouldn't do....
Like I was going to willingly use some American botnet as my DNS provider lmao
They should log it without consent. Every web service does.
Think for a second about what logs fucking are. If something goes wrong on their service then logs may help them resolve the issue.
Demanding that they not log anything to satisfy your own preferences is retarded. Use dnsencrypt and roll your own DNS server if you're that bothered.
>but if the US government comes to them saying "yeah, we need you to start logging all requests made from address x.y.z.w and give them to us"
This isn't even necessary for 99% of DNS traffic because DNS by default is encrypted. It's likely that the NSA is already tapped at major ISP route points like Level3 etc and they can just see the packets there
DNS by default is unencrypted** obviously meant
dont log information that can identify you or your ip address or what website you went to.
that is what is meant.
If you were doing something illegal you should be smart enough to use a different dns anyway
Again, that can be necessary to resolve issues.
gotta have non anonymous data about this guy and his 10000 illegal porn sites to fix this bug oh ok
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>not using opennic or other safer dns
so what DNS should i use?
That's not part of my argument.
Although, if the issue is with a third party ISP it may be necessary to send relevant logs to them.
DNS.watch
>In setting up this joint research program, APNIC is acutely aware of the sensitivity of DNS query data. We are committed to treat all data with due care and attention to personal privacy and wish to minimise the potential problems of data leaks. We will be destroying all “raw” DNS data as soon as we have performed statistical analysis on the data flow. We will not be compiling any form of profiles of activity that could be used to identify individuals, and we will ensure that any retained processed data is sufficiently generic that it will not be susceptible to efforts to reconstruct individual profiles. Furthermore, the access to the primary data feed will be strictly limited to the researchers in APNIC Labs, and we will naturally abide by APNIC’s non-disclosure policies.
What are you hiding?
Thanks for clarifying. My fingers started doing some sort of weird twitching thing when I read your first post.
100% legal stuff.
and like 10000 dollars of pirated stuff.
lol jay kay i would nevar pi rate it imorale
73.60.131.112
54.34.435.233
34.65.235.765
34.57.563.234
Who fucking cares? If law enforcement is requesting your DNS history you already did something wrong.
45.234.234.123
65.984.375.349
128.574.385.35
ip is vector4 of 8 bits
they need proof though dont they
>8 bits numbers
>435,984
You know you can just run your own fucking server, right? Last time I bothered, it took around 10 minutes to set Unbound up on my router.
and where would it get the info? another dns server?