>want newest version of software >not on the repositories for that distribution >JUST ADD THE PPA, user >PPA is also out of date... >literally can't install the latest version >meanwhile, Windows users just install the exe with 1 click
How do you deal with the many shortcomings of Linux?
Example? >Windows users just install the exe with 1 click >using exe in 2018 I love when lintoddlers troll each other. Feel free to give an example for this too.
>How do you deal with the many shortcomings of Linux? Because it's Linux. Windows is supposed to be fool-proof, if I want to get shit working, I will get shit working. I'll get a PPA if I need to, I'll compile the source if I need to, I'll use an alternative if I need to because that's what I do. I use Linux because even with shit like this, which, let's be honest, happens way less often than Jow Forums likes to bullshit about, it gets work done way faster and way more efficiently than any Windows or OS X counterpart.
Luke Walker
>Download .exe from shady site >Have to dodge 20 toolbars during install
An optimal temperature which most humans tend to stay in while in homeostasis.
Noah Morgan
>Download .exe from shady site
nobody does this. user. every reputable WIndows software has an official site and various reputable mirrors.
Hudson Harris
Isn't there a universal package manager already?
Henry Watson
>loonix >universal anything
Jaxson Scott
Linux is a kernel.
Ayden Phillips
I download Windows from official site and from various reputable mirrors.
Jaxson Myers
This is even worse though, basically:
Windows: >Google program name >Download .exe >Double click .exe >Program installed
Mac OS: >Open the app store and search >Don't find the program you wanted >Find an alternative "app" at the bargain price of $50 >Buy it like a good goy >Install, use
Linux: >sudo apt-get install program-name >nope.jpg >google program name >oh it has a special snowflake name >sudo apt-get install program-name-complete >doesn't work still >not in your distro's repos >add repo and keys manually through code on the program's website >sudo apt-get update >get stuck and timed out >distro now broken unless you wanna mess with removing the repo manually >download source code >no installation instructions provided >try to just use your intuition >the makefile is broken lol >finally find some shitty .rpm file someone uploaded 5 years ago >convert to .deb cuz only shit distros use .rpm >it installs after you install all the dependencies >doesn't work anyway >give up
Carson Johnson
>implying devs don't package sponsored toolbars
Nicholas Gomez
God I want to slide my dick down that little cum dumpster's throat and fill her mouth with my cum.
Jose Hernandez
tldr: it's literally 2 commands, as described in
Ayden Lee
>apt search the name Install it, use it. Problem solved.
no PPA bullshit, there problem solved you dumb fuck
Anthony Turner
Yeah, flatpak is starting to pick up steam.
Samuel Hernandez
Linux is just the kernel. Sounds like you're complaining about Ubuntu, not Linux.
Ian Nelson
It takes me about five minutes to install something on Linux mint using the terminal. It's not rocket science you absolute fucking retard.I guess there's an IQ difference between us or something.
Jaxson Cox
tldr, you can just use synaptic
Colton Allen
>install another OS to run software
The neverending leapfrogging that is Linux usage.
Asher Wright
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
>implying it will be in the distro's repos >implying the repo it is in won't be broken or have some other asinine bullshit but that's not even half the problem >use it that's very very unlikely, and that's the real problem Or maybe you're such a brainlet that you think i'm talking about installing Google Chrome, Steam and Skype that all come in ready-to-run .deb packages for Mint and not more obscure specialised software that still takes 1 click to install on Windows Yeah but it rarely works the way you want it to, so googling it is much faster, and typing apt-get blindly hoping for luck is too >two commands that will most likely not work >if they do work there's no gurantee the app will even run Don't get me wrong, i compile from source when i need to and i have no problem doing it, but it's a pain in the ass and one of the reasons Linux will never be seriously competitive with Windows, whether that's a good or a bad thing, you be the judge of that, but since this is a shitposting thread about how easy it is to install software on Windows, this is a valid argument. Not to mention the fact Windows just has tons more software available.
Evan Phillips
for those rare cases just use an appimage/flatpak, not hard
Caleb Reed
>but that's not even half the problem Made up bullshit is your problem.
Jordan Hall
Define obscure you banjo lipped dark as shit nigger? I've installed PCSX and various other emulators which are "obscure".
>Made up Denial is your problem. >banjo lipped dark as shit nigger very creative, did you hear that at school? >PCSX is obscure *vomiting anime girl.jpg* >OS is completely non-functional so you never have to worry about finding software for it >Problem solved indeed.
Oliver Perez
Wtf I love temeletry OS now?
Ayden Gutierrez
Why must you derail Jow Forums with your autism OP, just admit you're fucking retarded.
>download a precompiled linux program from outside the repos >run it >tells me it requires some library file >search the name of the library in the package manager >nothing >have to google to find out what to install >run the program again >it requires another library now >rinse and repeat 30 times until you get everything installed >finally run it >it runs but something doesn't work correctly anyway Linux becomes shit-tier as soon as you step outside the official repos
Connor Rivera
>download a precompiled linux program from outside the repos Name? madeup.deb?
Adrian Watson
emulators closed source games that have linux versions etc
Give me a name or even better, give me a link to the binary. I only has to install a library for a game (Doom2) and the error was obvious what should i install.
Jordan Gonzalez
Any well packaged .deb will tell your package manager about dependencies, OP. Perhaps you should be questioning the package mantainer and not the operating system itself.
Here is a challenge for you: Try finding a functional paint-like software in the repository that isn't Kolourpaint or Pinta. Pro-tip: you can't. But not due to the lack of packages.
Nicholas Long
wow dude you really showed me lmfao i guess i'll save your gif in case i ever want to install that particular emulator that happens to be in the repo because clearly there's no such thing as an emulator that's not available via package manager rofl i'm such a retard
Christian Howard
Here's a challenge for you: Try finding a functional paint-like software in the windows store that isn't paint or paint.net. Pro-tip: you can't. But not due to the lack of packages.
>Try finding a functional paint-like software in the repository that isn't Kolourpaint or Pinta.
This simply doesn't exist.
Cameron Richardson
Basedgirls love onions
Easton Gomez
Hey, it's you who claims "hurrhurr emulators so hard to install". It's a simple answer for a simple mind.
Joseph Thompson
A moot point because nobody uses windows store, because you can easily install software otherwise.
Aaron Green
>Paint pre-installed on literally every Windows since the dawn of time >challenging someone to find paint-like software in the windows store for what purpose
Ryder Young
>using a Debian based distro
Julian Jackson
Exactly. That's why broken crap like gpaint (or whatever it's called) shouldn't be in there at all.
Isaac Hill
You seem to have missed the satire.
Luis Peterson
>my particular emulator was easy to install so all of them are more like a simple answer from a simple mind
Nicholas Butler
xpaint
Landon Brooks
The burden of proof is on you. Your particular examples are way too generalized to be taken seriously.
broken crap same as GNU paint, gnome paint, wxpaint, xdraw, ... Even Pinta from the repos barely qualifies, because there is some interesting bugs in there. It's literally only Kolourpaint that is the only usable paint clone in there.
It has a shit tier interface. Also it has some bug that causes it to instantly crash on 16.04 under some circumstances.
Jaxon Martinez
What bug?
Xavier Scott
>Kega Fusion >demands some libraries before you can run it and refers to them by library name, not package name >install them >run it >no sound >methods to fix it don't work >ended up running the Windows exe via Wine to get the sound working meanwhile on windows >download >run exe >works but by all means keep pretending linux is fine and it's all user error and every argument against it is made up
Levi Bell
i don't use a distribution that uses the PPA system. arch or antergos would fix that for you, user
John Kelly
Just update the ebuild nigger
Dylan Sullivan
Hard to tell what triggers it. It causes an access violation when combining a special constellation of selecting an area, resizing and undo.
Nathan Cook
>shit tier interface Well, paint is shit too. >has some bug that you can't describe Who cares? Everything else is a goalpost. Have a (You)
Paint (the original) interface is your god, fagtron. And that other faggots point stands, Ubuntu (or rather, Plebians) repos are full of crap, the core parts aside. Try some smaller 2D games, I'm sure you'll find more dysfunctional stuff. Or some half-complete stuff like 0. A.D. alphas. It's because Plebians think every binary that doesn't insta-crash is a stable package.
>Kolourpaint is the only usable paint clone in there Agreed, but if it works, why would you need anything else?
I don't get all this constant crying about the shortcomings of Linux. Linux is not for everyone. If Windows fits your needs better, use Windows. Millions of CS professionals use Linux because it fits their needs the best, so it's obviously not a bad operating system.
Jason Perry
idc. I use gimp.
Charles Collins
Linux lacks a simple 3d modeling program like sketchup
Luke Parker
Also, look at this. They seem to have a .deb too for non redhat like users like me. Honestly, if you can't figure this out on your own; instead of complaining you could use a friendlier distro like ubuntu which does all of this for you.
Dude, I use Windows 10 and MacOS but you're a fucking retard or a fucking troll. Install any software on ganoo loonix is easy, even if you need to compile.
i never said i can't do it, but you have to be a complete brainlet or a NEET with too much time to not recognize that it's a pain in the ass this, everyone else in the thread including are literal works on my machine - tier idiots
Lucas Phillips
Gentoo doesn't have that problem. If it's not on the repos chances are it's in an overlay. If it's not in an overlay, I can just write the ebuild myself and build whatever version I want.
Win32 way of handling setups is fucking shit, polluted as fuck. Ever wondered how some of those trial software figure out how you used the program before uninstalling and installing it again? You can even try to clean the registry and any leftover files, but they're always sneaky because the OS enables them. A lot of windows software leaves shit somewhere and you won't ever be able to figure out where, and it will stay there polluting your install until you finally format it for whatever reason.
On Linux everything is neat. Every file from a package is tracked by the package manager, and unless you're running it as root everything will be somewhere in your home folder, where it is allowed to write. There's no registry (except for gnome abominations like dconf and gconf, but even those can be safely deleted and will just return to its default values), everything is in files. This really irks me about windows, I feel like running everything on a VM sandbox.
Brody Morales
This isn't a linux problem it's a Ubuntu and Debian problem asshole. Solus, Fedora, OpenSuse, Arch , Gentoo, and Slackware all have up to date packages available for download kys.