LARGO, Fla. -- Florida authorities went to a funeral home and used a dead man's finger to try to unlock his cellphone as part of an investigation.
Thirty-year-old Linus Phillip was killed by a Largo police officer last month after, authorities say, he tried to drive away before an officer could search him.
At the funeral home, two detectives held the man's hands up to the phone's fingerprint sensor, but could not unlock it.
Legal experts mostly agree that what the detectives did was legal, but they question whether it was appropriate.
Charles Rose, a professor at Stetson University College of Law, tells the Tampa Bay Times dead people can't assert their Fourth Amendment protections because you can't own property when you're dead. But those rights could apply to whoever inherits the property.
>dude got executed for running Jesus, is Florida Brazil?
Dominic Allen
america is a third world country so yes
Joseph Price
Who cares about dead criminal.
John Ortiz
Give it back, police
Cameron Reyes
I hate this world
Aiden Powell
So if dead people have no rights, does that mean I can have sex with them?
Ian Morris
Linus noo ;_;
Landon Ward
As a mortician I know this is a controversial issue, however I feel it needs to be discussed.
After death we are legally allowed to leave our possessions to our loved ones, this includes property and money. We are also allowed to donate our organs for use by other humans, as well as for medical science. Why are we not permitted to donate/sell our corpse for the sexual gratification of necrophiliacs?
We live in a secular society in which Church and state are separate, therefore religion cannot be used to justify current laws regarding necrophilia.
Necrophilia poses no great risk to ones health. Also regular sex between the living can result in AIDS and other STDs.
This being the case what are the legal justifications for the criminalization of necrophilia?
Here's an idea: don't run from the cops like a fucking idiot.
Jace Robinson
Here's an idea: don't arrest people
Nathan Adams
Fingerprint sensors are designed to detect life signs in order to prevent molds of your finger from being used, since it would theoretically be possible to make such a mold using a scan of your fingerprint or even a high resolution photo of your fingertip.
I'm not sure exactly how the life sign detection works, but it might be as simple as a thermal sensor. If they'd taken a blow drier to his hand for a minute it might have worked.
One thing that you need to consider if you only use facial recognition of a fingerprint scanner to secure your phone is that anyone who has access to both you and your phone while you're unconscious, say an ER worker who sees you after a car accident, will be able to get into your phone. Facial recognition systems require your eyes to be open, which prevents people from getting into your phone by pointing at your while you're asleep, but if you're unconscious they might be able to do it.
Jacob Cooper
>don't arrest people So what are you supposed to do if someone breaks the law?
David Foster
Why does the police have a right to his phone tho? Is the presumed info in it going to prevent another 9/11?
Benjamin Martin
>This being the case what are the legal justifications for the criminalization of necrophilia? lawmakers think it's gross
Owen Gonzalez
shoot them
Gabriel Reyes
>If you don't want to be shot in the back by someone who will never be punished for killing you, try not making mistakes you moron
Eli Martin
>lawmakers think it's gross Same reason child love and sodomy are illegal.
Jayden Gomez
pretty mu-- wait, where is sodomy still illegal?
Owen Hall
thats a dumb idea
Benjamin Fisher
Imagine the cop putting the corpse finger inside his mouth. Yuck
Zachary Campbell
The world went downhill senpai. Sodomy not only is legal, but is promoted. I blame universal suffrage.
Jaxson Diaz
>Facial recognition systems require your eyes to be open, which prevents people from getting into your phone by pointing at your while you're asleep Not necessarily true. There's a toggle for the iPhone X that will allow the face scan to work without direct eye contact with the sensors. It's great for people who use sunglasses, but as you mentioned, it's a security concern everywhere else.
Benjamin Wright
Russia
Parker Gray
Here's an idea: become a man and shoot back at the pigs, since they're going to do you in anyway
Aaron Flores
What about their constitutional right to a fair trial?
Noah Carter
Reconsider whether it's a good idea to have the law in the first place. We could do without at least 90% of the laws and regulations on the books.
Nicholas Lewis
dead men have no rights
Lucas Rivera
>therefore religion cannot be used to justify current laws regarding necrophilia. Thats not what seperation of church and state means.
Anyone in govt, or in a voting booth can use their religion as the reason for their actions.
What is not allowed is intermingling a religious organization and the govt - like say making a priest president and he begins to mix the US treasury with the Vaticans.
Liam Flores
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Brayden Martin
They didn't arrest him, kek.
Isaac Martinez
Tmw your family sells you to some corpse fucker
Kayden Reyes
Don't care about the legal side of this at all. This is beyond unacceptable. Period. These police officers should be fired. People who have anything near a functional moral compass understand that you simply don't do this.
Nolan Wilson
> could not unlock it Of course, it requires a passcode after some time. Hi, Facebook dweller.
Bentley Torres
>implying anyone with a moral compass would become a police officer in USA They just want to have power over others and an excuse to shoot
Austin Roberts
That's why I have fallback, after 12 hours I'm required to manually re-enter my PIN, If it's not entered after 72 hours it wipe the device.
To keep what little remains of this shitty thread tech related, why didn't dead dude's finger scan work?
Maybe the cops were just making sure to be absolutely incompetent to the very end?
Samuel Cooper
>She is facing a total of 158 charges kek is that like a world record or something
Thomas Morris
Ironically there is no such thing as separation of church and state. The places where mental gymnastics can be applied to justify such a concept is the 1st and 6th amendments. Which merely states that the government is required to treat all religions equally, and not to punish people from exercising the religion's tenets.
The creation of laws which pander towards religious entities is not considered "collusion between church and state", even though the laws may be justified using theocratic tenets.
Really, "separation between church and state" is limited to favoring or disfavoring particular religions. Probably by name.
Xavier Richardson
Finger's skin peal off after death.
Parker Garcia
Yeah fuck having laws n sheeit
Cooper Hill
This is the most retardedly asinine thing I've heard all day
Most laws are in place because at one point someone did something recklessly stupid because there was no law preventing him from doing so
Hudson Stewart
>those articles on the right ... is this the onion?
Joshua Wright
Ever tried to use a touch screen with freezing fingers? It don't work so good. The thing picks up on your body electro-thermal energy n' sheiit. Don't think it works if you're dead.
Isaiah Gomez
>literally a slave of tech
Robert Roberts
How would I blackmail people then?
James Peterson
Quality post
Ryder Gonzalez
nigger spotted
Charles Thomas
this is the most retardedly asinine thing I've heard all day
Most laws are in place because of petty tyrants and control freaks trying to run people's lives for them, or trying to use the law to extract money from people
Carter Miller
>extract money from people also as a method to influence and control the flow of power
Cameron Rogers
your nigger mentality is showing
Asher Young
I understand him and he's right, you should've a low set of laws. My country, for instance, has over 10K new laws every year. How you're supposed to keep track of everything? It's impossible for an ordinary citizen. Shit is so broken you need to go to the law school, graduate, work in the field and specialize in one single topic to actually understand 100% of it. This system is killing itself at a slow-pace and will probably die in my lifetime.
had an extensive rap sheet including previous arrests for illegal weapons and drug possession. He was stopped for smoking weed while driving a car with illegal tinted windows. The guy before being arrested jumped into the drivers seat and tried running the police office who was trapped between the car and the car's door and being dragged. The cop fired in self defense.
But he a good boy family man, dindu nuffin.
Jacob Bell
>if you run you forfeit your life Do you not see how astoundingly idiotic you sound?
Jaxson Perry
>8 year olds should be allowed to be fucked because sexual trauma isn't a thing Consider playing in traffic
Cameron Foster
Going to use that from now on.
Lincoln Price
>not edgy enough >facebook dweller The absolute state of Jow Forums
Nicholas Wright
But sexual trauma isn't a thing.
Dominic Campbell
>im mad Have fun. Normal people don't want others to get arrested