So I hate Firefox Quantum and switched to chromium.
I decide to use Firefox Quantum for a little test.
Literally 5 tabs open.
1h of browsing.
7 GiB of RAM!!!!!!11111111ONEONEONE
MFW.
Kill the Firefox Quantum process.
7 GIB of RAM are free.
So not only is Quantum a ugly useless peace of shit who lost lots of extensions; It also eats more RAM them chromium.
Why the fuck would anyone use this shit?
>muh speed
There is no difference in browser speed for about 20+ versions back.
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Most web browsers are configured by default to utilize any amount of free ram. They do this dynamically to cache web content for faster viewing.
I hate to say it, but it's true in this case. Unused ram is wasted ram.
If you needed that ram any other program would take priority anyway. Nothing lost.
This desu, you're fucking retarded op
What's wrong with using your free ram?
You probably have 16gb
I have never seen my Firefox use more than 1.5gb of RAM. And I have 8gb.
Works on my machine
>Unused ram is wasted ram.
NO its not!
Because other people want to do other things on their computers while web browsing.
Things that require RAM.
>If you needed that ram any other program would take priority anyway. Nothing lost.
No its not and no it will not!
Never happened to me.
What websites? What extensions you have installed? What OS? At least give some useful information.
>ONEONEONE
Good taste m8, i also enjoy their games.
Yes.
And the browser decided to bloat to this level that I was hitting the page file.
Because I have some VMs running you fags!
Who need RAM!
>7 gb+ worth of cache
>Still slower than chromium
Firefox shills on suicide watch.
8 gb here too, but Firefox used to freeze randomly and start eating RAM for me (4 gb+) the last time I tried it, which was when Quantum got released.
Keep hearing conflicting reports, must have to do with hardware. Chromium runs seamlessly for me.
The real problem with firefox is it has awful touchscreen support and no thumbnails on linux. Why does the open source browser neglect the open source platform?
Then it will stop hogging up that RAM you moron.
>Keep hearing conflicting reports
Its mozilla shills trying to Astor turf.
Remember when all tech websites decided to jizz themselves over Quantum(mozilla payed them).
Despite the fact that Quantum is only bad news.
Killing shit loads of extensions.
Ugly interface.
>Then it will stop hogging up that RAM you moron.
It did not!
It bloated to max RAM and continued.
I need ed to kill it.
This is why I got 7GiB free.
I have first hand experiences while you have only your theories.
Quantum (the marketing name from the reworked CSS engine) it's actually faster, though the Mozilla rollout was pants on head retarded, killing APIs without actually providing replacements (not even for just XUL stuff but for pretty much a shitload of APIs that were considered basic back then, on 57 even Chrom* had stuff that Fx was missing), they still haven't provided replacements for the vast majority of stuff, to the point they had to delay the ESR release to 60 since essential enterprise deployment plugins simply couldn't exist (Mozilla had to make the plugin themselves since the previous authors disbanded, some of them were hired by Mozilla)
It works on my machine tbqh senpai, did you check your addons weren't fucking shit up? There's plenty of memory leaks on 59 (I guess they're still on 60 since they seem to be present on 61) but that sounds like way too much consumption for Fx alone
lol I can't complain about extensions anymore because all the good ones I need are now available on Quantum. As for the speed, it is better than Old Firefox/ESR.
16GiBs of RAM here. Never got Firefox using more than 4GiBs with around 20 tabs open.
>Firefox shills on suicide watch.
stop using memes from 2010
Thanks for the intelligent post so we can have a civil conversation.
>check your addons weren't fucking shit up?
I make it a point of pride to run with no or little addons as possible.
And because of my setup I often start up with the clean version of a browser.
>Quantum (the marketing name
FF was getting more shit with ever version. Quantum was the nuke that for me finally denoted the line of the official end of FF.
>Mozilla rollout was pants on head retarded
This is why I'm not seriously using FF (for tests is ok like demonstrated ITT) I will not be under a company who can pull this shit on me at every time and is to retarded to understand how to make a good transition.
What is your system setup (OS computer 32 VS 64)?
Are you running the 32 bit version?
>Firefox using more than 4GiBs
Because I did hear stories that the 32 bit version is the best because it will never go over 4GiB of RAM.
I was using the 64 bit version of FF on 64 bit OS.
fine then ur mom lol u mad bro install gentoo
>I will not be under a company who can pull this shit on me at every time and is to retarded to understand how to make a good transition.
That's why you use ESR, Chrome it's much worse in this reward than Fx
>Chrome it's much worse
I'm using chromium.
What are the bad things chromium did push?
I'm using it and I see no problem.
No retarded UI changes (its the same like in version 1.0).
And I did not see them bricking extensions super hard.
kek and he's not even using the good chromium based browser, inox.
>What are the bad things chromium did push?
Shitload of spyware, broken stable code, no actual official releases, binary blobs full of spyware in the source code
>No retarded UI changes (its the same like in version 1.0).
It isn't, you either don't remember how Chrom* was, one of the features that made me leave forever was when they killed vertical tabs
Anyways they're going full retard and copying Australis in Chrom* Canary
>And I did not see them bricking extensions super hard.
Yeah, but they barely have anything to break
Inox, Ungoogled-Chromium, etc. would be great if they had enough people working on them
Unfortunately Google prefers to make it as hard as possible to remove their retardation from their source code
>Shitload of spyware, broken stable code, no actual official releases, binary blobs full of spyware in the source code
In chromium?
Or are you talking about chrome?
Also elaborate.
>you either don't remember
Tell me exactly what they changed.
>vertical tabs
What is this?
>Yeah, but they barely have anything to break
What did you mean by this?
>shitload of spyware
Like Looking Glass?
Oh wait that was Firefox.
>binary blobs
They removed those years ago
>Looking Glass
I needed to google this.
Its the toy advert for the toy browser named FireFox of the shit TV show Mr. Robot.
If your browser acts like a toy its time to stop using it.
>In chromium?
Chromium, things like ungoogled-chromium and Inox exist because Chromium has a lot of the malaise Chrome has
>Tell me exactly what they changed.
Literally told you right there
>What is this?
A feature they had, disabled by default, were you would had your tabs on a bar in the left side of the screen instead of at the top
>What did you mean by this?
Plugins in Chrome are way more limited than plugins in Fx
>Like Looking Glass?
Like the shitload of code that phones back to Google, see ungoogled-chromium
>They removed those years ago
They slipped them in, there's no reason to not believe they won't
tbqh not a problem if you use ESR or the builds from your distribution, only Mozilla builds had this problem
Also, you're forgetting the Cliqz thing in Germany
However this is much less than what you get with Chromium out of the box
>Plugins in Chrome are way more limited than plugins in Fx
Oh you mean old FF.
This is true.
However there is now only Quantum VS chromium.
And tell me if I'm wrong Quantum has gimped extensions like chrome. Because Mozilla wants to retardedly copy chorme on every step.
Are the new Quantum extensions literally on the same level like chromes?
Quantum, specially post 58 releases, have more functionality than Chrome
A simple proof of this is the fact that uBlock Origin needs two plugins on Chrome to provide the same functionality as on Firefox
Even Fx 57 didn't need two plugins instead of one
>Also, you're forgetting the Cliqz thing in Germany
Can you elaborate on what you mean by this?
I don't know what Cliqz is and wikipedia is neutral like always.
I don't want to be snaky however I have a intelligence agencies manual on how to write reports.
I did glance it and It was basically 99% of how I write(even before reading the manual) however I think you need it because the manual has detailed step by step instructions on how to write its something like this
Try to answer the following questions in your report:
What is this and why is this important?
What are the consequences of this?
How is this affecting us (negatively; because we are talking about Jow Forums here)?
Because unless you write like this yo a re producing insider innuendo that is irrelevant to outsiders or communication informations to them.
You want the manual?
I think it is much easier to remove/disable undesirable shit on Firefox compares to Chrome/Chromium. Which also makes FF forks a much better alternatives than Chrome/Chromium.
github.com
OP btfo
>windows
Oh win-fags.
Seriously why are they even bothering with this shit if win10 is literally having a keyloger build in?
Seriously simply switch to linux like everyone else.
What is so great about web browsing on windows?
A search suggestion add-on that sell your data
>Most web browsers are configured by default to utilize any amount of free ram
This is retarded beyond help.
>Unused ram is wasted ram.
See
>Can you elaborate on what you mean by this?
Mozilla bundled a search engine that had extra data collection with their binary releases in Germany, we had some threads around here about it
>ghacks.net
stable
>I think it is much easier to remove/disable undesirable shit on Firefox compares to Chrome/Chromium. Which also makes FF forks a much better alternatives than Chrome/Chromium.
It is, that's why Fx forks are about undoing Mozilla retardation UI-wise or plugin-wise, not about removing tracking
>What is so great about web browsing on windows?
Firefox has GPU acceleration enabled ootb on Windows, outside that maybe thumbnails on the filepicker if you're a Gnomeretard
I assumed OP is on windows, so probably for gayming.
Thanks for the info.
>A search suggestion add-on that sell your data
I was suspecting this after
>in Germany
Germany(police, goverment etc) can literally legally install botnets on your computer and is installing it.
en.wikipedia.org
de.wikipedia.org
youtube.com
I'm OP
And I wrote
Is it me or do I need to start using a name?
My bad.
That's not unique to Germany:
en.wikipedia.org
>It is, that's why Fx forks are about undoing Mozilla retardation UI-wise or plugin-wise, not about removing tracking
FF forks are great however I was talking about the main official Quantum cancer.
>Firefox has GPU acceleration enabled ootb on Windows,
I did never see problems on linux.
The funny thing is I open web pages in FF and chrome equally fast on linux and even faster then official Mozilla propaganda shows.
youtube.com
And I have linux on a HDD.
From my experience everything works faster on linux (my theory is that the win registry is bloated with FF configuration files and other configuration files of steam etc so everything is terribly slow)
>outside that maybe thumbnails on the filepicker if you're a Gnomeretard
>thumbnails
I use cinnamon I have thumbnails in everything.
Its like classic windows UI only improved in every way.
You can take cinnamon from my cold dead hands.
>en.wikipedia.org
>packet sniffer
No the German gov can legally install software in your OS.
Like literally literally install a botnet on your OS.
Switch from 52ESR to Quantum.
Literally 93 tabs open.
Uptime of 7 days 17 hours 59 minutes 28 seconds (and counting)
2,611.3 MB of RAM!!!!!!11111111ONEONEONE
Consider a rope.
I'm tired of seeing this kind of shitpost and people replying to it over and over. Why is this board so full of spam?
Sorry, got the wrong one:
en.wikipedia.org
I literally did have this happen to me so I made a thread about it.
Can you even elaborate how my thread is
>spam
?
Yep.
Thanks there we go.
>on the target computer much like other forms of illegal spyware, whereas it is unknown to the operator
Nice shill post. Same shill shit over and over, never any proof, no links to bug trackers, nothing, and a shill OP image. How much are you paid? Pic related, 30+ tabs open, entire firefox profile in tmpfs (~200MiB), plus cache in memory with 350MiB allocated - literally impossible to break 3GiB even if you try.
Ever screenshot can be faked.
>never any proof
How exactly?
I killed the process.
I say everyone can try it himself and see if my results are replicated.
> literally impossible to break 3GiB even if you try.
Also do you have JS disabled?
>How exactly?
Post a bug report. If it's an actual problem, it's reproducible, and others have the same issue. What you describe is a memory leak, not a feature, e.g: bugzilla.mozilla.org
Bugs happen, just search for Chrome/Chromium memory leaks and there's pages of them.
>do you have JS disabled?
No.
> If it's an actual problem
Do i need to install this?
Or is this inside of FF?
how do I start it?
Do you think you get billed for using your available RAM or something?
Jesus Christ do you retards even do other things on your computer then web brows?
See:
I keep about a half dozen tabs open for a few days straight, and by the end FF is using like 6 GB and Chrome is using about 5 with the same test.
Browsers are shit mate, get over it.
>Unused desk space is wasted desk space.
>Do you think you get billed for using your available desk space or something?
Can these browser cock suckers stop looking like complete idiots?
>Browsers are shit mate
Totally agree.
However I like to vent.
32 bit days 4GiB of RAM 100s of tabs opened.
You hit the page file
>Oh I understand all these tabs with their graphics can build up in RAM
64 Bit days 16BiB of RAM 10 tabs
You hit the page file
>The fuck! Literally HOW!
Even if every tab is stored as a screenshot in BMP there is no way to take up the RAM it is taking!
The fuck!
I remember the old days!
I just want Spectre immune processors so I can finally downgrade to a older web browser build.
Why did web browsers get so RAM hungry over the years?
Do you also think car analogies are a good way to learn about computers?
What part of
>I want to start a 4GiB VM now
>Oh shit the browser took 90% of RAM
Don't you understand?
The desk example is perfect in this case I can not use this space because the browser decided to be retarded.
When will you finally downgrade?
Updates are cancer.
using chromium, had to download FF quantum just to see. op is full of shit.
Oh quantum is fun...
>fullstack develop huge webapp
>cookie based implementation to logout all tabs at once.
>this implementation also updates few settings accross all tabs when needed
>chrome and ff works.
>quantum - only last opened tab and current tab logs out
>Wtf m8?
>oh right, quantum thortles settimout on background tabs.
Hey I'm only reporting what happened I don't think you can reproduce this behavior every time(can be some random error).
Try leaving these tabs opened for 1h.
haha you're funny OP. Think that's bad? Try dealing with FF's bullshit combined with Windows 10's antimalware shit I can't easily disable constantly running up a smooth 60-70% of my 4gb RAM on this laptop. I refuse to use Chrome it's only a little less bloaty and twice as botnet.
>Windows 10's
>botnet.
I don't see the point in not ruining chrome.
You already are on the keyloger OS AKA win10.
How worse can chrome be compared to win10?
You have a always on microphone on win10 for fucks sake!
>OS releases RAM that is not strictly needed by the browser
Using just under 2GB of RAM here, 64-bit Firefox Quantum.
I have 12GB of RAM.
Posting on Jow Forums without knowing how cache works should be a bannable offense
This is what browser cucks actually believe.
>OS writes part of memory used by browser to swap/paging file.
Ftfy
>o swap/paging file.
And this is a bad thing
I agree about that high usage of RAM fact, but since my ungoogled chromium crashed my ublock origin, i'll have to use it for a while.
Honestly though, it's a bit faster than chromium. Just that high usage of RAM thing i wish they got rid with it.
>2018
>Still not using Pale Moon
You deserve a bad browsing experience
You're retarded. Firefox gives you more control. If you're a RAMlet use the fucking settings. If you want privacy use the fucking settings. Now that firefox is just as fast and still has more control than chrome there is no reason to use chrome.
Yes.
>inb4 disable swap/paging
>RAMlet
The fuck did you say?
I have 16GiB!
You have a .deb file for Pale Moon?
You don't see the point in not wanting to give away even more data to another corporation (an advertising company)? You dumb?
You must be a dev because that is a shit fork with even shittier devs. Even waterfox is better and actually lets you use the browser how you want.
poorfags
why don't i get this issue?
pic related: 100 hours uptime
is this the 32bit version?
I don't know how you managed to have 7GIB with 5 tabs, i can't do it with 70 open tabs.
ramlet
i don't complain, it's enough for me.
10 Jow Forums tabs open and it uses like 1gig of ram
no it's 64bit
It looks like a VM 9.76 is not a normal hardware RAM number.
>Jow Forums
Try browsing other websites.
For maximal effectiveness have no ad block or java script blocking.
Can OP into computah?
>For maximal effectiveness have no ad block or java script blocking.
nice try, fbi
i remember not-so-far-ago tims when a web browser using 1+ gig ram was considered a massive memory leak
What went wrong?
I stick with Waterfox.