Whats stopping a liberty-minded company from starting up a social media site that actually keeps their grubby hands out...

Bump for BTFOing hopefags

You'll be forced to use FB anyway very soon and you are going to like it.

How does Linux stay afloat?

>Linux
*Microsoft/Linux

>Windows is a better linux OS then Linux
Has RMS committed seppuku?

>run business
>don't use FB
>go bankrupt in 1 milisecond because Gen Z shitlets think you're a bigot terrorist.
That's why there will never be any other alternative used. Everyone ITT already agrees that the competition is dying.

Advertisers (the ones who pay the bills) will want you to clean the site in order to protect their brand.

Such things already exist, with their code base in the public for all, and people using them today.

Diaspora

Couldn't remember the name.

>and people using them today.
Should we tell him?

Natural monopolies and, accordingly, lack of audience

No one intelligent enough to care about freedom and privacy is petty enough to actually use Socialmedia.
No one intelligent enough to care about freedom and privacy is dumb enough to not understand that remote services and what you desire are mutually exclusive.
The problems stem from the formats themselves, not whichever evil megacompany happens to own it.

>they're perfectly happy being told what to do
that's why US is a republic not democracy

>Whats stopping a liberty-minded company from starting up
Muh shekels

That is how Facebook and Google make money. They sell your information.

They've been doing it for over a decade now. The irony is it only came into the normie radar because they're still angry about losing an election.

But how would you make money?

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literally jews. how will you get money without them

>keeping a massive internet service open 24/7 for millions of people vs posting some code in github

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Money and the NSA

It's almost like In-Q-Tel won't give this hypothetical company venture capital like Facebook. Total coincidence.

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This is not technology

This is a good question. Any ideas, Jow Forums?

>Untargeted, nonintrusive advertising
Won't optimize profits like Facebook can, but it's still a way to make money.
>Subscription model
Hypothetical only, no one will pay for a social media service.
>Federated servers
Mastodon does this. You could set up a personal server for your circle of friends, not unlike IRC.
Building on this, what if universities/companies could be convinced it'd be benefitial for them to run servers for a federated social media service for their students/employees?

because you need to make money, you basement-dwelling moron too detached from society

facebook is "free" because it sells access to your data

There are potentially a ton of ways to monetize that dont involve selling data. Dont understand what the fits are about.

>Mastodon does this. You could set up a personal server for your circle of friends, not unlike IRC.
>Building on this, what if universities/companies could be convinced it'd be benefitial for them to run servers for a federated social media service for their students/employees?
I think the future is about decentralized software , just as trends have been to centralize now, as processing power increases (again) we will move towards decentralization (again)
>my 5 cents

>If you protect user privacy you're protecting terrorists.
Pretty much this. You're already going against free money by not selling user's data, but the government will come knocking at some point and fine you into the ground if you don't comply. The users who actually care about privacy will also care about you handing data over to the government, so who exactly would you be catering to if you're willing to cave in any way?

If you're stubborn you'll just be losing a ton of money so some autists and maybe criminals can freely and privately talk to eachother.

Redhat keeps Linux afloat. They're a big corporation that makes money. People don't just dedicate their valuable time to work on the kernel for shits and giggles.

all that media stuff is 100% a flash in the pan for fb

Reminder that this fuck has been flaunting the law for longer and no one gives a shit anymore.

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>what keeps them from starting up
Nothing
>what keeps them from running
They don't have any avenue for earnings really. Non-targeted ads are something you don't get paid much for and while Facebook claims it doesn't 'sell data' it absolutely passes that information on to government agencies and other companies.
The centralized nature of most social media features makes it a tough problem to solve for people who wish for transparency. Twitter is a good example. You have a single tweet to be sent to millions immediately and one that's supposed to be seen by a million people over a few months.
In a decentralized system that becomes very difficult to deal with.

t. Delusional

t. Rasheed

but how does Redhat make Linux money

"Linux" doesn't need to make money. It's a piece of software. Are you referring to the Linux Foundation?

Well what are they? Name five (5) not mentioned by , explicitly listing some is literally what user is asking for.

Some Linux/open source devs receive donations to keep supporting and developing tools that are widely used. A donation model would not work for a social media service - it's not just development costs, but also constant server upkeep.

No shit right? How fucking delusional do you have to be?

Any actual free as in freedom site immediately gets the “alt-right” dog whistle for “literally fucking genocidiares in waiting” tag and fails to take off. You give up your user data to the FBIniggers or you don’t succeed.

So much fucking this. Note how literally every comoeter to FB is literally dying right now? That should be proof that FB will never die, and may as well be the only social media site in existence. If you want proof, you literally cannot get a job or start a business if you don't have FB, the interviewers won't fucking let you in and think you're a Hitlerian bigot.

Join FB or die like all the other wrongthinkers.

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These guys get it.

>Employers want to ensure the people who work at their workplaces aren't Nazi Larpers
WTF!!!!!! MUH FREE SPEECH
Freedom of speech isn't protection from consequences.

Profit.

>If you want proof, you literally cannot get a job or start a business if you don't have FB, the interviewers won't fucking let you in

I have literally gotten hired at three jobs since Facebook opened their HQ, in the tech industry, and not one person has ever asked for a Facebook profile. You are hyper delusional and exaggerating a statistic that has zero real world impact.

I have also started a business and was never at any point asked for a Facebook profile. I was even incorporating myself. That's like the ideal time the government would require a Facebook profile and it didn't happen.

But I'm sure rightstormwingwatch.info told you otherwise and you're too much of a NEET to know what the job market is like anyway

>people who don't have Facebook accounts are neo-Nazis
Fucking goose-stepping RMS

Business model?

youtu.be/EsBvI9oSD1g?t=9m14s
game theory

writing a kernel is far less complicated than running Facebook.

maintaining a distro is much closer to complication. redhat and debian are the top contenders, one is a company the other is a volunteer effort

linux is overated. you can write a kernel with a gnu userland, gcc, and an editor not leaving a term all day

>linux is overated
meant linus the person

You just described gab.ai.

gee i dont know because the majority doesnt really care that their info is being sold to another company? and since this can be done the companies see this as an easy way to make money?

Just how fucking cheeky is this guy?

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MONEY is what is stopping you.
Servers are fucking expensive.

Diaspora

What a retard question!!!!
Honestly, did you consider what the cost of the servers is Facebook has?
They spend millions on electricity each day. Not to talk about Admins and the Hardware cost.
Somehow you have to get these money in. That means you have to have commercials on your social media site and this needs data analysis of thre users to point the commercials to just them who are potentially interested.
Money are needed to run this shit on a similar scale facebook is doing it.
I like my privacy, so i never made an account there. Be smart, use an encrypted chat program with your friends and stay in contact this way.

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>Whats stopping a liberty-minded company from starting up a social media site that actually keeps their grubby hands out of the content?
Profit margins? Where's the money in starting up a competing platform that generates significantly less revenue?

>Whats stopping a liberty-minded

global capitalist elites will shut that down immediately, simply by not supporting them with advertising money. The capitalist elites want division among the masses, and they use the media to do just that.

If the masses had a form of media that wasn't manipulated by the global elites, the masses could organize, unite and oppose their bullshit manipulative tactics.

I went to a Hackathon recently and had an idea similar to this. The thing is, when I was explaining my concept, people kept telling me it would just turn into Jow Forums. That's what anonymity gets us.

Will get shut down soon. See Competition to Facebook doesnot exist.

Tangentially related, but it boggles me just how entitled people feel when it comes to getting to say what they want on somebody else's privately owned platform. The other day I saw some guy on twitter claim that he was "denied his check mark" for being alt right. News flash dude, twitter isn't a bastion of free speech. They can block whoever they want.

wut

Given how interwoven government and social media are becoming, there could come a day where theyre legally obligated to open up to free speech.

See: Mark v. Borough of Hatboro

Mailing lists already exist.

Capitalism, shit costs money so to even play you have to buy into it, you have to make money to pay for running cost and debt, if you do well and get a lot of users the big boys will drive a dump truck of money to your front door, and if you dont play ball they will just fuck you over some other way.

i tried one of those and it was all furries. japanese pages and weird porn