Definitive list of grievances

>1) Awful UI (arguably subjective, but fucking awful)
>3) Byzantine settings for changing anything meaningful, spread across many places
This is my biggest gripe.
I can kinda excuse the bugs, because I guess they're saving money.
But the awful UI and settings scattered everywhere are just inexcusable. It's like they're actively trying to make it shit.

Auto updates and adware can be turned off. It's annoying, sure, but unless you need to admin several PCs without some centralized solution (which is actually more common than you think) it's not so bad.
Still, major updates, which come every 6 months, are a bitch and they always break something.

You only noticed these two things?

>It's 2018 and control panel still exists alongside settings
>Windows Store is still in its infancy and has barely any decent apps compared Apple Store, Google, Steam. Also quality control is non existent.
>Automatically installs drivers even though it's too stupid to realize thta it's installing the wrong fucking drivers
>UWP and Win32 both exist and Microsoft is either too stupid or scared to simply streamline the OS under the UWP standard
>The UI is overly simplistic and encourages developers to design brainlet tier apps with no fleshed out settings and minimalistic customization
>Sync problems still exist when using OneDrive, My People, and other Microsoft apps
>Groove Music if effectively dead yet it still exists as an app
>Cortana is considered retarded compared to Google and Alexa, not that anyone literlaly cares about voice assistants
>Night mode doesn't auto turn off in the morning and requires you to manually turn it off
>Every fucking app eats memory like it's limitness

That's all I got for now.

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new icons easily best around

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The Linux subsystem is basically useless since it's a completely separate world and feels more like a VM instead of a "subsystem". For example, you can't (easily) use git and maven from the LSW and add it to a Windows application like an IDE.

I have an i7 laptop that seems to run like shit with Win 10 bloat.

Should I put Win 7 on instead? My main rig is Win 7 but suspect they will be gimping that one way or another soon and I should bite the bullet with Win 10.

But if I wipe the drive, I dont want to have to pay for Win 10 again.

Muh theme hospital

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I mean you can't do so directly but if you can run wsl from within the IDE then it's virtually no difference. It's how I do things from my laptop. vsc terminal -> wsl, but vsc already has built in git functions which demand git for windows so I just disable/ignore that as git on wsl is what I'm used to.

I know there are workarounds and stuff and I didn't know that at least Visual Studio has some WSL compatibility. But Intellij (and others from that family) don't have it so far. It's pretty annoying because I want some git and maven features from the IDE, but I mostly use the command line functions. Since I dont want to have two separate git installations that might interfere with each other I simply use other terminal emulators like Cmder, instead of WSL. To me it's useless in this state and I'm not even sure why they made it at all.

Prettier but less functional. People that work with images a lot and need to quickly see what's in a folder don't like it. Also how auto-arrange can't be turned off in folders any more.

>Anything I have got wrong or missing?

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>got btfo numerous times due to being a tranny that disabled all services
>still posts the gif he converted from the webm
who would do such a thing

>keep a clone of the original partitions
>install whatever
>restore when necessary

What webm? It never was a webm, it was a gif from the beginning. Look at taskbar, I made it with GIFCam.

My grievances are:

-Shitty font rendering. They had many years to fix this.
-Some bugs that make me really wonder, like not saving certain settings to the point you have to remove your user account and make another one
-DX12 barely fucking matters

fucking turn off updates.

HiDPI support is still behind MacOS and even Linux.

It's the same with me, it seems cortana can search the internet, tor hidden services and the NSA backup servers but not my own harddrive. I think it has something to do with trying to turn off cortana completely a (which failed of corse) and now she is pretty angry and is messing with us.

>software companies design their product to run on the latest version of windows
>there's a 'latest version' every fucking week
>the update bricks your pc so you can't use the software you wanted to anyway
haha TAKE YOUR TIME WINDOWS UPDATE haha
preparing to update takes longer than the fucking update, my god

do not bulli femanon, she only wants to protect us from windows

I mean as much as Jow Forums hates on Apple, iPads are fine, and probably the best tablets. So if you say Windows is the only "tolerable form" then it must be amazing

>preparing to update takes longer than the fucking update,
FUCKING THIS. Holy shit I hate Windows

>iPads are fine
No.

The fact that it forces updates makes it unforgivable.

>pay for Win 10
>ever
it's a free upgrade*, dummy. after that you can wipe the drive and reinstall it clean and it will activate.

*even from pirated w7 or w8

it forces them about the same way w7 and w8 do. the only difference is:
1. the setting to turn auto updates off is more hidden
2. you can't cherrypick individual updates anymore (unless you use wushowhide)

for the record: i do NOT recommend w10 to anyone (at least until 2020). it's a shit os, but people keep complaining about things that aren't true.

>the setting to turn auto updates off is more hidden
You can't turn them off. There is no setting to turn them off.

same

blind people be like

>3)
Type control.exe in the search bar, shortcut to desktop and don't ever click on those crappy settings again

3 is the only real issue here

It's shit.

sorry sweetie, there is. read the fucking manual.

...

Link the information.

>I was fired because of this shit
Explain

I actually don't mind Win10 so much, but here's my list
>Inability to customise start menu icons without a third party app, no icon pack support
>No customisation options for icons throughout the entire OS
>Many useful win32 apps haven't been given a modern replacement. Snipping tool and volume mixer are 2 big ones
>Lack of consistency all across the UI with fluent, metro, aero, win32 shit all over the place. Really the OS should be divided into Fluent and Win32. Teansferring files around the OS uses the 'modern' transfer dialogue, but transferring files from my phone uses the Aero transfer dialogue. How does this even happen?
>Inability to remove 'core' apps
>No TWM, or at least more ways to divide apps with snap
>Fractured task bar design with functionality split between task bar icons and the notification pane
>Can't fully disable cortana and can't hide the cortana icon in tablet mode
>Lack of 3rd party support for new features
>as far as I know fluent style apps are unavailable outside of the MS store, which is shit
>Poorly implemented dual monitor support, windows snap when moving between monitors, scaling gets fucked, and you can't set separate displays to separate workspaces
>Poor scaling
>Upcoming sets feature is completely useless and makes me wonder what the taskbar is even for these days

Eventually, 5, 10 who knows how many years from now a lot of this will likely be fixed through Windows Core OS (which I wouldn't even mind using).

k, i'll spoonfeed you because microsoft is a faggot
support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/328010/how-to-configure-automatic-updates-by-using-group-policy-or-registry-s

>terrible and inconsistent UI
>installs updates despite being disabled in 4 different places including registry, grp policy, etc
>keeps resetting UAC setting after each restart
>doesn't let me run any software from D: unless I start them as Administrator
>updates in "background" means 99% CPU&Disk usage and renders PC unusable even though I have i7 and SSD
>default "apps" aka ads that you have to remove manually (if you can)
>2 different control panels, 1 is completely unusable, for example you can't change network adapter settings unless you use old CP
>90% of software I installed don't appear in Start menu for some reason
>can't disable some of the useless features such as firewall and virus protection without windows spamming you with notifications to turn them back on
>big ass notification area covering 30% of screen that has no purpose at fucking all
I could go on for days

I've been using 10 for a while, should i go back to 7?

Yes.

Linux is the only option now unless you want to be windows XP in two years without having dipped your toes into anything else.

What are the benefits in comparison?

I have a 2012 amd processor desktop but new ssd and graphics card, it runs fine for me

Frends, what intel cpu and what mother would you recommend to install w7 on. I refuse to buy 8gen because it only supports w10

More stable, well polished OS. Not a piece of junk with redundant bloatware all over the place.

Probbaly Skylake. Although see if you can get your hands on some Broadwell-E or even Haswell-E, or their Xeon equivalents.

Ok then, i think i'll go back to 7, thanks.

gonna install LTSB on my x230 just now, but in dual boot just in case

Thanks. And what about motherboard? I'm truly clueless when it comes to hardware.

I wanted to buy a new modern pc to use for work and vidya, but I guess I'll have to build an old one

Depends on your CPU and budget, ofcourse. But if possible look after one which jas native USB 2 suport. Will make your life easier.

I've got a fucking hot one for you and I'm fuming over it right now.

I have a storage drive that I typically swap between machines as it suites me. For the past four or so months, it's been living in my Windows 10 machine. One of the reasons I swapped it so much was because I was too lazy/cheap to come up with a network storage solution, but I decided to change that this weekend and set up a FREENAS box. I took the drive out without even thinking about it because fuck it, I have all of the files backed up anyway. FreeNAS requires a format, again, no big deal I've got all the files backed up.

....I go to boot up my Windows machine and guess fucking what? Windows decided that it had to keep crucial boot information on that drive in spite of the fact I never gave it permission to do so and it wasn't even in the machine when I installed Windows on it. Thing won't boot at fucking all. OK, whatever, go to re-install Windows and now on top of all of that it won't activate. Really appreciate that I get to spend the rest of my Sunday sorting through this huge mess of bullshit because I removed a goddamn hard drive.

Too bad W10 is still more intuitive and easier to use than any repo of linux. I hope linuxfags create some kind of .exe some time soon.

Ubuntu has you covered already

>the windows method of program distribution (run executables you find on random websites) is better than package managers
Absolutely retarded
You absolutely can run executables files on linux but it's far inferior to getting your software through package managers

It is.
I don't understand how, though.

>support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/328010/how-to-configure-automatic-updates-by-using-group-policy-or-registry-s
I'm not sure if you're kidding.

Huh? Those settings do still work even on 10. You don't even have to add any templates. Just open gpedit.msc and change the update setting.

it says right at the top that this does not apply to any version of Windows 10

It says nothing about Windows 10, which doesn't mean it doesn't work.
Anyway, here's the same setting:
docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/update/waas-wu-settings

maybe he is only playing blind

There are multiple versions of ntfs... Updated with each release of Windows.

>But the awful UI and settings scattered everywhere are just inexcusable. It's like they're actively trying to make it shit.
Exactly

Has a fix been released yet? It's driving me crazy.