Why does Jow Forums seem to hate them?

Firefox and VLC are unironically just about the only actually usable free software in existence.

Yet Jow Forums seems to do everything it can to retard their development - nitpicking to an extreme...

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Firefox was amazing in the beginning. Unfortunately Chrome was a game changer and Firefox could never keep up from then. They eventually did some shitty updates that turned a once-was great software into shit, and since then, we don’t have a good browser anymore, except NetRunner that unfortunately will never exist. Internet sucks more and more since the early Firefox days if you figured.

VLC was a great piece of software until MPV came out and everybody realized VLC really wasn’t that good

Blender?

Paint.NET is pretty dope, decent UI and great featureset. MS should buy it and package it with wangblows.

This is wrong?

But Chrome and mpv are both shit, albeit for very different reasons.

Paint.NET hasn't been free software for years, user. They betrayed the entire community...

I don't. I still use them.
FF on win/linux and android.
VLC on android.

What do you use for a media player on Windows/Linux?

>mpv is shit
Never understood this one. Is it just because it doesn't come with le gooey?

currently, mpv.

Why?

Oh. Still dope free beer free. To be fair though the newest VLC is packaged with gooble's proprietary HDR tech. Does that make VLC non-free?

Maybe grow a brain.

THANK YOU!!!

I've been annoyed at this for years.

firefox and VLC is fine, it works, shut up about muh ram and other meme shit.

Do binary blobs make Linux non-free?

Don't they?

Being able to play videos from youtube and other video sites is nice, thanks to youtube-dl.

>used to run ff in Windows/android
>tried out Firefox sync to keep bookmarks etc synchronized
>for some reason the sync stops working. It now gives an error everytime
>wrote a ticket
>received no support
>couldn't recover my bookmarks. Yes, I had no backup. Didn't think I'd need it with Firefox sync
Since then I've been using chrome. Never had a similar Problem with it

FF on windows have bookmarks backup on firefox profile folder.

That's a really nasty bug, but my question is why use FF if you're negating its privacy advantages by choosing cloud storage for your bookmarks?

Firefox is better than Chrome. It wasn't 3-4 years ago but now it is.

Thanks, didn't know that
Been using firefox since before chrome existed

>Been using firefox since before chrome existed
That has nothing to do with my question, user.

Don't know that to tell you other than
>I used Firefox back then
>saw no need to switch to another browser as long as everything was working

Since when is Paint.net nonfree, is there a premium version or is it not open source?

You can play videos from youtube on vlc too.

Don't forget Handbrake

Changed to FF since I found out that chrome was scanning in the background.
Used mpc-hc from k lite since the beginning of time

Chromium
Linux
AOSP
Mpv
and a crapton of other stuff.

>VLC
>not MPC-HC
vlc is a slug compared to mpc

>and Firefox could never keep up from then
Not true, firefox is great now. There is no reason to use google botnet anymore

VLCs video decoding is terrible. It makes videos look like they taken from DVDs dragged through mud.

Firefox is ok but I object to their politics. They've started putting actual propaganda articles on the default home page. And qutebrowser werks great.

Are you… me?

It's nerd law. Everything after my adolescence is bad.

VLC is shit because mpv exists. It's simply faster, more responsive, wastes less screen size on useless gui elements and break video into blocky grayscale if the video got paused for a few minutes.

>chrome was a game changer
Firefox has a far superior UI, UX and more options out of the box. The ONLY reason chrome got this many users is because Google was used by 90% of people and because many freeware shipped with chrome.

Don't use just one browser or media player.
BAM! Problem fucking solved.

Firefox is slower than chrome, in mt experience. I've used firefox for years and recently noticed when visiting Jow Forums homepage it will load the webpage normally, then load extensions like oneechan and X, then go into catalog mode. Which takes probably 3 or 4 seconds more compared to chrome.
I tried switching to chrome but I just fucking hate the interface and the lack of customization you can do. I wanted to turn predictive typing off in URL in chrome so I disabled it but it still pops up because it's taking predictions from both my history and bookmarks which you can't dusable which defeats the fucking purpose. In firefox it was easy as flipping a byte

But Jow Forums loves Firefox.

Also, because firefox is dogshit slow, and always has been, including up to this day.

>Chrome is botnet
>Firefox is slow
Where's my third Jow Forums approved option?

>The ONLY reason chrome got this many users is because Google was used by 90% of people and because many freeware shipped with chrome.
I don't know about you, but I was forced to leave the Firefox train somewhere in 2010 just as Chrome was gaining traction because memory leaks were so bad. Firefox is the part of the reason why Firefox use dropped, you gotta be honest, man.
I returned somewhere in 2014 and it has been useable since, I've got no new complaints.

VLC works just fine for my porn (internet goes out where I'm at). Not sure I need anything different

>No reason
Until firefox stops wasting money on doing things like removing terms from their code that offends people. All the while begging for donations claiming they're going bankrupt.

Some here on Jow Forums just reached a retarded level of autism, where they can't stand software that works out of the box. they just want to tweak the shit out of every command line before they can use it with satisfaction. Even if this just gives them placebo like effects.
That's why they hate FF and VLC so much.

Like: "muhhh i installed it and it worked instantly WWWWWWWTTTTTFFFFFF!!!!!!! ..... i hate this."

That's also the reason why many here are on Linux. They want to fizzle days, nights and years with making an OS actually work just because the emptiness in their lifes goves them the time to do so.
Other normal people go work, care about their families ans stuff and simply don't have the time nor the motivation to fizzle around at such autistic levels like the basement dwellers like to do.

It stopped being open source since like 2009.

>Do binary blobs make Linux non-free?
Binary blobs make *Ubuntu Linux non-free.

Ubuntu developers should be burn at stake for that.

Void & Alpine Linux are truly free, thankfully.

I didn't. It's shit.

There are so many random annoyances with that.
Just the need to maintain (and understand!) two completely different configs can easily cause brain pain.

Redpill me in the Firefox code removal

Except both FF and (to a marginally lesser extent) VLC have configuration options up the wazoo. They just have great defaults on top of that.

Wrong. Firefox is way better than chrome now. Chrome memory leaks are insane.

Firefox is faster than any other browser now. (Unless you believe MS's propaganda re:Edge...)

Firefox is a fat fucking hog.
VLC drops frames, pic related.

but I still use VLC though, shit plays damn near everything, even files it probably should tell you "fuck off, it's got huge holes in it"

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>codec packs
2005 called, it wanted its turn-of-the-millennium setup back.

No, Jow Forums loves Waterfox, and used to love Pale Moon (until some recent shitstorm I couldn't care less to get the details about). That's the problem.
Jow Forums gives Mozilla less incentive to improve FF.

>shit, hence everyone uses Chrome
>shit, hence everyone uses Windows
>literally had to Google it, not a good sign itself
>shit, hence everyone uses... various other stuff

Exactly. But that's what i mean. They work well out of the box and that seems to autistically disturb some fucksticks here.
They are satisfied with a programm when they need years of tweaking to play a simple .mkv file.
I can understand the motivation to bring something to function on absolute god tier level, but that doesn't mean other programs that can't reach this level are shit. But that's exactly what the mpv nazis claim.
I have tons of terabytes with full HD .mkv TV-series on my HDD's and never had issues using VLC.
So what makes these people believe VLC is a shitty program? Millions of people using VLC are also satisfied like me.
Sure, we are not all baked the same and have individual preferences, but to call out VLC as a shitty program because of personal preferences is just autism at its purest level.
Jow Forums is battered with such people sadly. Same goes for the linix discussioand and the massive amount of distros that peak up and dissaper the next millisecond. All are praised as the holy grail by their worshippers and then the Gentoo people fight with RetHat people and among them the Ubuntu fraction.

Not funny the slightest.

Users of Waterfox, why do you prefer it?

>Firefox
basalisk is better

>VLC
that purple thing people keep shilling is better

>botnet foss is good
a dick up your ass is better

I don't hate it

It's just shills, ignore them, you'll find that people will shit on everything free. Personally I uninstalled Chrome after finding out it has an "antivirus" built in, made me question just how much access this shitty software has to my data

which firefox version should i use?

Use Krita

You should enable auto-updates. Always use the latest version.
Gone are the days when Firefox got worse with new releases.

i mean there's the normal version, quantum, developer edition, waterfox
i don't even know if some of these are really firefox

i just want a firefox that uses less resources than chrome and also have chrome extensions

It's one of the very fewuser oriented programs on linux. There's popup info for literally everything, it looks good, has a sane UI and it works. How is it shit?

Lower the process count if you want to use less RAM in firefox. And/or lower or disable cache.
It can also use all of the extensions in the chrome store as well as firefox extensions not available on chromium based browsers.

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Quantum = new Firefox
Dev/Nightly isn't worth it
Waterfox and other forks are just outdated and slower versions of firefox

Dev/Nightly has mandatory tracking, don't use it unless you're willing to be a virtual guinea pig.
Just get the standard version. End of story.

Thanks for the meta, now fuck off. Nobody wanted your opinion on people you do not know.

t. not basement-dwelling actual aspie who enjoys tinkering

>not basement-dwelling actual aspie who enjoys tinkering
That's a contradiction in terms.

this

new FF>newEDGE>ChrometheDataHarvester

ppl knock Edge, they don't use it.

>considering vlc a defensible media player

>A browser shilled by Microsoft
>Not botnet
Pick one.

what do you Jow Forumsuys think about Opera?

Use Linux-libre.

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>Lower the process count if you want to use less RAM in firefox. And/or lower or disable cache.
how? pls help a brainlet.

I assume it's about:config wizardry.

Chink spyware.

I have met a lot of you fucking bottle pissers that are too lazy to even go to the toilett.
You seem to be pissed exceptionally by my comment that pointed you out 100% as what you are.
Congrats, you revealed yourself as such a tard you are.

>not using lunascape

I use firefox, but it is slow as shit.

I like quantum

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the new one is better

No GUI isn't a feature, only OCD nerds appreciate it. Sure, i want a GUI to easily get out of my way, but my kids/wife aren't going to learn keyboard shortcuts or terminal.

Please provide a short webm of VLC decoding vs MPV (or whatever). I don't see a difference.

Firefox is off and on for me, right now it's off.

I've always loved VLC, though.

Does MPV have a GUI? I had someone come to me asking if I could help him play his anime using mpv and I was flabbergasted that someone would release a file that *can't* be played with VLC.

firefox has a pretty ironic history.
People who used their mozilla browser which was pretty awesome in the beginning will remember that they abandoned it and started over because mozilla was getting too bloated. Same thing happened with firefox, although its still the best option out there and I´m mostly happy with it.
I just wish they wouldn´t force bundled shit like pocket on you

Why did the shit the 3.6 ui?

Firefox
>Can not use sandbox with ALSA
>Resorts to systemd by default
>Obscure shitty bugs like support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1180792 which make it unusable
>New "extensions" are as useless as Chrome's
In short: "was great, now shit". Like FreeBSD.

VLC
>Not a player
>Artifacts
>Requires a lot of plugins
>Worse than mplayer/mplayer2/mpv

Since when popularity is the measure of quality?

I've never once had to get a plugin for VLC, and i've never had artifacts with it. Can you provide an example of these artifacts?

>I've never once had to get a plugin for VLC
It basically requires you to install half the gstreamer plugins to work as a video player.
>Examples
It's a Google search away.

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Does FF still have memory leaks?

I see, i've only used the windows version and never had any of those issues playing back xvid/h264/H265. Perhaps it's a linux issue, or an issue with less common codecs?

mpc-hc and mpv shit all over VLC and have for as long as they have existed

I use mpc-hc and VLC interchangabley. Starting to use VLC more now as 3.x has proper high-dpi support that VLC 2.x and MPC lack. Kinda sad that mpc-hc has been discontinued.

>I've never once had to get a plugin for VLC, and i've never had artifacts with it. Can you provide an example of these artifacts?

UR GAY LOL

find your own examples
VLC IS McSHIT! SHIT I SAY!!!!!!!!!!

Delete it FOR GREAT JUSTICE
VLC IS DONALD DRUMPFT

The Quantum UI is better than anything FF had before, that's for sure.