So Im currently using some cheap Logitech Z313 speakers i got about 5-6 years ago as a gift. Ive been thinking about upgrading for a while now. i dont really know anything about speakers. im deciding between the other three speakers in the pic. Is the upgrade really worth it? will i honestly be able to hear the difference? is there that much of a difference between the three speakers or should i just got with the cheapest ones? my budget is $200 US.
doesn't happen with studio monitors really, these things are build as tank
Noah Rogers
Some 150w Logitech 5.1 system that I only use as 2.1
Bass thumps, speakers don't crackle at high volume. Don't give a fuck other than that. I'm not a faggot audio-phile.
Eli Perry
It's a weakest link problem, if you listen to compressed streaming garbage with no dynamic range and your speakers are under a pile of piss bottles it won't matter much. If you're listening to good quality music that benefits from good gear (orchestras, small ensembles, acoustic/solo stuff, pipe organs, and the like) then yeah, it's worth buying something good. The best of the four is mediocre though. >lol install gantoo Why bother buying used polk when new polk is cheap as hell. Used is for gear that cost like $1500 and up at retail.
James Sanchez
>install Gentoo Lazyfags gonna lazy I guess You realize you can actually design your own badass setup for cheaper than a name brand peefab, right?
Ayden Morris
I have pic related, the Z623, sounds good and bass slaps. I'd recommend
Just looked this up on Amazon. Still going for $100. God damnit. I already spent $120 on my 150w Logitech system. Piss.
Benjamin Adams
I got em cheap for 60€. Best purchase I did in years.
Gabriel Collins
I assume you thought you were replying to me?
I see no sense in reinventing the wheel considering people like Paul Carmody, Siegfried Linkwitz, Troels Gravesen, and Zaph publish their work for free, and are far better at it and more experienced at it than I would be, and you are.
I know you think your shit doesn't stink, but I promise, it does.
Connecting some speakers isn't the same as building speakers, faggot. You're saying you're too dumb for plugging in cables. Is that what you intended to sound like?
Jack Ramirez
I can tell you have never listened to a good system before
You obviously have no idea who those people are, stop trying to act like you care about speaker design or audio in general.
Colton Gray
If any speaker doesn't tell you a frequency spec with a ±3 db do not buy it.
Evan Rodriguez
There is "gaming" everything. Just add LEDs and suddenly its a gaming [thing]
Easton Williams
>he thinks a wavy 2D line on a grid actually gives a meaningful impression of a speaker's performance, let alone how it actually sounds For your next trick you will pretend to be able to interpret a waterfall chart or explain its limitations
That post reads like shit. And its contents are retardbabble that doesn't fit to anything being said ITT. You sound like shit.
Jaxon Walker
If it doesn't have anything that means the peaks and valleys are mountains and cliffs and doesn't span the entire playing field
Nolan Martinez
logitech aesthetics is hideous gaming crap
the Z623 recommended here have 2.5 inch drivers and weigh 1kg, it's overpriced gaming shit
a single monitor like krk rp8 has 8inch driver and weighs 11,8kg
Carson Adams
Please just go back to your /hpg/ pedophile hentai spam threads, you're not contributing anything of value here
Luis Green
The logitech salesman is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a shill and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”
Why would you buy a set of speakers without frequency specs listed?
Jonathan Bailey
Yes. I can vouch for them
Sebastian Reed
I always do, but it's just fashion. Like saying "goodyear welted" on a pair of shoes, since the sperg-o-verse has decided that this is somehow a critical must-have.
Even the worst Sony and Klipsch crap has frequency "specs", it tells you absolutely nothing of value and you're being hoodwinked if you've allowed yourself to believe otherwise. It's the present-day version of printing how many watts it can handle.
Thomas Bell
But goodyear welt on boots means something useful
Evan Gomez
>DDLC
evn trash
Landon Young
There are other kinds of shoes besides steel toed shitkicker boots. There are even boots that aren't steel toed shitkicker boots.
It's pretty annoying to think about buying good pc speakers with the studio monitors being around. I dont own a dac so if it hisses thats game over, and studio monitors don't have the typical convenience features like volume control at the front.
It's like "either spend 50€ for shit or 250€ for a real solution, and since you're not an audiophile you might not even notice a difference". The lg z623 is attractive simply because its 100€ and probably wont have any major issues as its so popular.
Angel Cox
Someone doesn't understand the difference between knowing how to do something, and knowing how to do something well, and is so hopelessly out of touch with reality that he hasn't even bothered looking at what the speaker design community has done before he came along with his autism
The problem with most reasonably priced studio monitors is that they don't bother with any LF whatsoever. That's why the "home audio" speaker genre is a thing, because people would rather have some muddy midbass from their tiny bookshelves than no attempt at all.
You could get really fancy monitors that actually bother with LF, but at that price point suddenly there's a ton of options.
I'm not trying to knock people who use monitors for pleasure listening, just saying they're meant for a certain job, and you should keep your expectations in line when you try and make them do something else instead.
And? I'm not wearing those at my job. Nobody who knows what's good for them would either
Chase Anderson
Scared to look different from what? People who wear shit kicker boots? I think you might have gotten your posters mixed up. >I can't wear nice things to work because I might sweat and get all dirty Stay in school, kids.
>less than 10 years old Why the arbitrary cutoff? Plenty of polk garbage out there that's over 10. The point is if I go on CL right now I can get Polk, or I can pick from a wide variety of fun stuff from Linn, DCM, Usher, some dude selling a pair of DIY towers based on Peerless drivers, or even boring old B&W... all for under $300.
Christian Jackson
I was trying to figure out what it meant before replying. Millennialspeak is basically no more comprehensible than deep ebonics.
Ian Reyes
the objective of the game is to get something fairly good that fit into user's budget $300 is over budget
Nathaniel Powell
Something less than 10 years old is less likely to have driver and crossover issues; more likely to have newer driver magnet technology.
Colton Gray
>something fairly good >that fit into user's budget Pick one and only one
In the cycling world there is a term, BSO or Bicycle Shaped Object, that represents shitbikes that people buy trying to save money.
Polk is the speaker version of a BSO. Just don't bother at all at that point, pick up a used logitech HTIB, and save up for a decent setup.
Good speakers were the first thing I bought when I got my first "grownup job". I slept on a blanket on a hardwood floor for the first few months because I needed a real amp, a real source, and real speakers. Much more important than a mattress, which is for pussies anyway.
Buy once, cry once.
Easton Smith
I thought the audio hardware has stayed pretty much the same and only difference is software side like genelec room correction or apples.
Alexander Howard
No he means like, leaking caps and burned coils and damaged surrounds. That's not wrong, but even fairly new speakers can have those issues (other than the caps which is really not likely to happen again as the capacitor plague was a once-in-a-lifetime event caused by industrial espionage). That's the price you pay for buying used.
Dominic Ross
>I can't wear nice things to work because I might sweat and get all dirty
I work outside all day. Absolutely nobody at my building has shoes like those except for a single fag in management
Parker Cooper
Yeah d00de. Scott and diamondback are BSOs too because they arent trek or cracknfail exdee
Blake Sanders
>tfw I'm buying a bike from walmart tomorrow and there's nothing you can do about it
polks have their uses as a less expensive upgrade, and if a buyer isn't paying too much, like under $75, they're easy to resell or they're good to keep around in the garage, or for basement cinema, since they can take a lot of abuse
i find that speakers made over the past ten years, even the inexpensive ones under $100, have a better response than larger and "more prestigious" speakers from 30 years ago; i think its due in part to more powerful magnets which are now cheaply mass produced by china, and also because of the use of different materials, including kevlar, which has also seen use in less expensive speakers
Jaxon Brown
Post that on /n/ and survive on their nutricious tears for a few years (slow board).
Parker Baker
I literally can't wait for the car analogies to start showing up.
BSO is too obvious. DomaneDinduDward is a shitposting genious though.
Andrew Price
Cages should be banned.
Jonathan Bennett
This, but they're very bass heavy. I use them for my TV so it's fine because movies have booming soundtracks and sounds that are rendered nicely but idk about music. You can turn down bass and treble a bit with the built in EQ though so there is that
Levi Gonzalez
its good for what it is. it'll deliver decent audio and has great bass for the price
if you want a "good" system then spend more money. but OP's pic shows speakers in the $100 range, so this works.
James Bennett
>Speakers but why?
Mason Ortiz
Cool looking things.
Jacob White
So I don't have to use headphones, which are a compromise.
Thomas Young
Yamaha HS7 is what you want, add an amp later.
Edifiers look nice but it's not a huge upgrade from what you got.
Xavier Johnson
what are you going to do with with the amp when using active speakers
Luke Bennett
I think he meant subwoofer, some people add the HS8S(Sub) to the HS7s but why not just buy the HS8 at that point.
Elijah Adams
You are wrong, Edifiers are big upgrade from your average logitech speakers. In fact, Edifiers are better than Yamaha garbage speakers that you recommended.
Adam Howard
klipsch is good. but some say it's too bright sounding. you still need an amp for klipsch. it's a passive speaker. the elac woofer looks tiny. the edifier is ok, but you have more choices and it's better to get a passive speaker.
As far as home use is involved, there aren't many speakers shittier than those Yamahas, so that's not really hard to achieve. Obviously you wouldn't know that since you never even owned other speakers.
Jaxon Peterson
yes, you will hear a difference logitech is garbage
at your 200$ budget though, i'm not sure how much better you can go. you would likely be served better with some akg/sennheiser headphones in the 100-150$ range.
have used , they were my brothers, mine are z5500 logitech's, that 2.1 kicks the shit out of my speakers without question, however both of us prefer headphones as we are both unable to use speakers the way they were meant to be used, so wen never really bought anything better.
but honestly, if you are buying something sub 300-400$ a speaker, you are doing it wrong if you want quality.
Aiden Martinez
my bed is right behind my pc so i usually watch movies and stuff from my bed. i dont really sit at my computer for more than an hour a day. pic related. old pic, but you get the idea.