/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Example gaming builds and _monitor_ suggestions; click on the blue titles to see notes
pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>Learn how to build a PC (You can find a lot more detailed videos on channels like Bitwit)
youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g
>How to install Win7 on Ryzen
pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1

If you want help:
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs:
>NO R3 1200/1300X or R5 1400/1500X. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY THE R3 2200G AND R5 2400G
>R3 2200G - Gaming WITHOUT a graphics card
>G5400 - HTPC, web browsing, or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card
>i3 8100 - Budget gaming builds
>R5 2600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming (especially the i5 8400) or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 2600)
>R7 2700 / i7 8700K - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing

RAM:
>Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal
>Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports

Graphics cards:
>Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon)
1080p
>MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200
>GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match
1440p
>GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced
>GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match
2160p (4K)
>GTX 1080Ti

General:
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
>A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor

Previous:

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Other urls found in this thread:

pcpartpicker.com/user/mcwaffles2003/saved/9z69WZ
heise.de/ct/artikel/Super-GAU-fuer-Intel-Weitere-Spectre-Luecken-im-Anflug-4039134.html
guru3d.com/news-story/eight-new-spectre-variant-vulnerabilities-for-intel-discovered-four-of-them-critical.html
twitter.com/AnonBabble

Why is the G5400 listed?

second for mATX is the best form factor

For all the reasons given in the OP
The G4560 was used in these benchmarks, but the G5400 is basically the same thing except higher clocked

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Bare minimum if you're buying new
Although the 2200G is a lot better it also costs quite a bit more and if you advocate for taking the Pentium out of the OP the 8100 also really has no point and then we loop back to people asking why the OP is so anti-Intel

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Additionally

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That chart is not very useful without the prices listed
Also doesn't account for multitasking or total platform cost so you only get a vague idea of value at best

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It gets the point across

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Well fuck, my friend's on board mb isn't compatible with the larger case I needed to accommodate the larger power supply and gpu.

Was hoping to not have to drop another $150

That doesn't make sense
Try to adjust the standoffs?

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You sure about that? You probably just need to orient it correctly. ATX cases usually have mounting holes for uATX as well, and sometimes even mITX

I had to install some adapters that the instructions didn't make any mention of first

What is this even trying to portray. The Pentium is a terrible CPU, why do you think it's so cheap? This chart is useless since it doesn't even show it stuttering and bottlenecking everything worth a shit.

>G5400
>i3 8100

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Will there ever be a day where we don't complain about the OP until bump limit?

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>TT View 71 case has no spot for DVD drive without saying fuck it and removing the entire front of the case.
Well fuck

I'm fine with the rest desu. The fucking dual core and the i3 need to go.

upgraded from a 2500k to 2700x and to my surprise windows booted and installed new drivers all on its own. is it worth the time to reinstall windows if it seems to be working fine?

Still need to know if I need to upgrade so I can shitpost, play indi games and watch Anime, Youtube and twitch. My temp never go over 50~c even when on AAA games at max setting. With YouTube videos, a few tabs #6~ on the other monitor with Foobar2000 in the background. frame rate is good. Is that good??? Or do I need a better CPU? Sometimes I Photoshop memes.

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If it isn't broken don't fix it
Your main limitation is the 1070

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bought a Ryzen today and just checked my ddr3 which is at 669 MHz

are their big benefits to better ram?

Yeah, you have to use DDR4
Also, infinity fabric clocks at the same frequency as the DDR4 you use so memory and CCX bandwidth have a direct relationship

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What's some decent ram for a 2700x/x470? first build in a while and lots of ram is intel only i guess? fucking intcels.

...

SoC and memory support in general should be better on the revised platform
Zen's memory troubles should be almost all gone for kits that aren't really old or really high-performance so your average 2800-3200 CL16 kit is fine
Make a PCPartPicker list

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jesus 3200mhz is like $120

how much better is it than 2400

most cases are dumb like that
quick /pcbg/ name one (1) case more utilitarian than meme R6 or R5

3000MHz goes for barely anything more than 2400 or 2666
Cardboard box

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>Cardboard box
damn you are right that is utilitarian as fuck
name 1 that is more or equally dust resistant at the same or lower price? hardmode: no silverstone mammoth

pcpartpicker.com/user/mcwaffles2003/saved/9z69WZ

to be used for gaming (hopefully at 120Hz 1440p), image processing, and multiphysics simulations

gunna wait for gpu prices to fall first (and hopefully RAM with this lawsuit going on)

What the hell is up with that CPU cooling choice?
Definitely get a modular PSU and consider custom water cooling

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psu is semi modular and i was gunna go custom cooling but my budget is $2500 and thats gunna push me way past it. looked at a setup through ek and was looking at $700

STOP POSTING GIRLS WITH NO TITS

you havent noticed its the same girl? i just got here and noticed...

>girl

its both my cpu and gpu cooler, id go custom but itd double my cooling costs. trust me i really want custom but my budget is $2500

i switched out the PSU though

>girl
lol
If I were you I would use stock and save up until you can do a real loop
Triple AIOs aren't going to end well

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Stop posting boys desu. Why is Jow Forums so gay?

You're lucky this is a blue board

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No Anime boys please.

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well its 2 AIOs but is it really that bad? will a custom loop really perform that much better, i understand theyre great looking and id love to run some hardline but is there really that much of a performance difference?

I'm completely heterosexual. Cute boys are just better girls.

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Why can't you fags stay in you holes. Most people like cute Anime GIRLS. Traps are trash.

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>>G5400
>>i3 8100
Kill yourself faggot shill.

I want a 1080 Ti, should I get one now, or wait for whatever is coming next?

Why are AMD boys so insecure?

i recognize that image...

Did I stutter?

Be careful with that neurosis. Lying to yourself isn't healthy.

>knowingly faps to men fucking each other
>I'm completely heterosexual.
Visible sage never ever.

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Depends on what you put in your loop.
You can get your water temp to just above ambient if you spend enough on radiators, whereas AIOs have cheap rads that aren't expandable.
With your setup I would go with custom water or bust

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yo seriously are AIOs really so inferior to custom loops in performance?

im just going CPU and 1 GPU, gunna push them, mostly the GPU so i can hit 120 Hz at 1440p

jesus christ what the fuck is wrong with you autistic. Why does every thread have to have literally man-child anime posting?

i havent really frequented this site for a good 6 years and even i remember the answer to this.... youre in a deranged strange place on the internet founded on talking about anime

Yes? Custom loops don't really have an upper limit on cooling power.
Of course if you compare a 240mm AIO to a 240mm custom loop it won't be 20 degrees cooler, but the advantage comes from being able to scale cooling power and not having to strap an AIO block onto your GPU core

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no bulge
bulge

wat

Yeah, but Jow Forums used to be halfway decent. I feel like the janitors just gave up. Now we just have shitposting by man-children who fetishize fake underage girls.

no board on here was ever decent. cancer has existed all over here since old times of yore

Don't expect consistency from random artists

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learn the difference between a girl(male) and a girl(female) shitlord

that's literally a girl

Whatever you say...

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whoa didnt mean to intrude in your safespace xD

I wanna fuck your boipucci you slutty cumdump.

fair enough

Good morning to you, too.

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will storemi work on windows 7?

What are good programs to monitor temps and stress the cpu? What if i want the cpu temp overlaying in a fullscreen game? Did my first build monday and want to finally stresstest it a little.

You're trying to make people hard by posting those pictures.

this please stop

so youre not hard?

If I really wanted to get you guys hard I'd step it up a bit

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I am. I want to rape the boypucci of the fagboi who keeps posting lewd sissy pics.

Sir, this is /pee cee bee gee/. Serious business.

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Nothings more important than our erections right now. Post butt, slut.

Does anyone have the px277 panel from pixio any good?

I have not updated my motherboard BIOS since I've gotten it. The clip on one of the x16 slots had broken off. If I can't get a replacement clip, can I avoid a reinstall by updating the BIOS and buying a replacement board?

>G5400
>i3-8100
also literally what's the point of coffee lake right now? gaming performance advantage over amd seems to be nearly non-existant with the new ryzens

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is 620 yuros a good price for a gigabyte windforce 1080? Or I can expect prices to go lower in couple of weeks? And that card, compared to the asus STRIX, is the same minus the rgb bullshit? Why would people spend hundred dollars more to have the same card with the same cooling system?

Lads, how long do we have to wait before GPU prices are back to MSRP now that Cryptoniggers have been BTFO?

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on average 8400 wins in gaming vs 2700x while costing $150 less. it also beats all of zen+ in price/performance.

because its a shill

Long, the new gpu's are being released at insane prices so the rest isn't going down to what it was any time soon. They will be cheaper but not by much and ofc it depends on whether or not you can even get them still, all stores are sold out for the models I want, even the nvidia website doesn't have all models on sale.

While being hotter, being less future proof and generally being more of a pain in the ass

This thread is infested with actual Intel shills. Not memeing in the slightest.

are you saying that paying $150 more for less performance is a better idea? delusional amdrone.
>being more of a pain in the ass
like what? memory tweaking for hours? oh wait that's ryzen.

Where do you see 8400 in his quote?

>also literally what's the point of coffee lake right now?
he referred to all coffee lake cpus.

>memory tweaking for hours?
you need hours to look at the QLV? do you have down syndrome?

>8700k
>8100
>G4500
wonder who is behind this

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Where the FUCK are the intel parts on pcpartpicker?

In the trash

Samefag

>like what
Jizz TIM, garbage stock cooler, CPU exploits, but none of these matter huh?

Unlike you people on this board share my opinions

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Lol someone found more spectre bugs on intel

heise.de/ct/artikel/Super-GAU-fuer-Intel-Weitere-Spectre-Luecken-im-Anflug-4039134.html

HOLY SHIT IT REAL AHAHAHAHAHAHHA

guru3d.com/news-story/eight-new-spectre-variant-vulnerabilities-for-intel-discovered-four-of-them-critical.html

>Shill leaves right after hearing about Spectre-NG
Im telling your employers that you left your post

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Don't you know?

>Multi-core doesn't matter!
>Productivity doesn't matter!
>Price/performance doesn't matter!
>Performance per watt doesn't matter!
>Power usage doesn't matter!
>Temperatures don't matter!
>Soldered dies don't matter!
>Stutters don't matter!
>Streaming doesn't matter!
>Data centers don't matter!
>Locked CPUs don't matter!
>OEMs don't matter!
>Hyperscalers don't matter!
>Upgradeability doesn't matter!
>Anti-competitive business practices don't matter!
>Locked platform features don't matter!
>Synthetic loads don't matter!
>PCI-e lanes don't matter!
>Burnt pins don't matter!
>ECC support doesn't matter!
>*NEW* CPU exploits don't matter!
>*NEW* Stock coolers don't matter!
>*NEW* Games don't always matter!

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