It's over for debian, ubuntu, fedora, etc users. For the first time, an Arch-based distro is no.1 on distrowatch, which is an important event. I'm going to list the reasons why Manjaro is the best distro ever made and why others are shit if compared to prior.
> Manjaro
> Rock solid, not a single crash, ever. > Rolling release based on Arch, but it's currenlty more user friendly and less buggy. > OOBE experience > updated packages > pacman is difficult to use for beginners, but no problem, there's Octopi, a fully functional GUI frontend for pacman. > AUR > You can choose any DE or WM you want. they are all updated and stable.
> Debian
> old packages > slow release > good for servers, not good for desktops > ppa hell > It ryhmes with lesbian
> Ubuntu
> Mike Shuttlecock is a fucking meme. He ruined Ubuntu back in 2017 > ppa hell > botnet
> Fedora
> dnf/yum is shit > GNOME as default DE > other Fedora spins are pretty unsupported compared to other distros. > SJW whale on download page.
Distrowatch doesn't really mean anything. They had mint winning inner Ubuntu when Ubuntu was in its hayday. I have seen all kinds of random ass distros rated as first and second. Last time I used manjaro it was buggy as hell. I might give it a try again though
Adrian Cooper
>Debian >It ryhmes with lesbian kek How is this a bad thing anyway? I like lesbians.
Aaron Clark
>Manjaro aka Arch stable No, its Manjaro aka Arch with week old packages, newfriend.
Elijah Taylor
OP is a faggot as always Distrowatch creates the top distro list by counting clicks on their website. It.s worth nothing, just like this thread.
Isaiah Campbell
Manjaro is just babbies first linux, like Ubuntu and Mint.
It's easily the worst babbies first linux as well.
Manjaro babby here, I'm happy and more productive ever since I've installed it
Dylan Bell
Used Ubuntu for a long time, Arch for a while, Gentoo for a while, installed Manjaro about a month ago and it's great so far. Barely any configuration, works great out of the box while staying fast and fairly minimal
It's still better than Debian or Ubuntu derivatives on that point
Christopher Campbell
I always run pure arch but manjaro is really good use it in virtual machines when I need to test my shit on arch/xfce/kde/gnome/...
antegros shit on me few times during installation and once it was done it felt like bare arch, like installer for arch manjaro felt like people actually care and put some effort in to making something that has its own feel
the idea of delaying arch updates a bit to improve stability feels okish I really did not bork my arch and ive been running it for like 4 years but being careful is not a bad idea
only thing thats bit concerning is that one of the main people around manjaro seems to be not very stable mentally, but since the distro is still on the rise.. its fine
I must say I will never go away from a rolling release distro on my desktop
It's got graphical package management and even a graphical way to easily switch kernels(!) It comes with a steam installer shortcut and also with a web client for Microsoft Office Online(!) Thus meaning that normies can immediately start playing gayms and use Microsofts Office if they don't like the libreoffice
I use Mint Mate after 5 years of Debian and 2 years of Arch and there is nothing wrong with it You just get tired of the fanboy shit one day and keep seeking comfort and easiness in your day-to-day computer routine
Let's go through the list of differences from the Manjaro website: >However, Manjaro boasts a few extra features of its own, including: >A simplifed, user-friendly installation process Ok, the one advantage. >Automatic detection of your computer’s hardware (e.g. graphics cards) >Automatic installation of the necessary software (e.g. graphics drivers) for your system Do you not know what kind of graphics card you have? Is the Arch wiki not explicit enough telling you exactly what packages you need to install. >Its own dedicated software repositories to ensure delivery of fully tested and stable software packages How many times has Manjaro actually caught a buggy package by delaying it? Most important packages stay in the Arch testing repository for a fair amount of time before they are released. >Support for the easy installation and use of multiple kernels. Besides the latest and the LTS version as a backup (or vice versa), what else would you need? That should be plenty for a hobbyist desktop. Are you running Arch servers?
OpenSUSE >German quality >You can select any DE you want >RPM packages, good shit >Rolling or Stable >Rollbacks, in case it shits itself, but usually it doesn't. >Packages are up-to date >Requires only one extra repo for proprietary or patended stuff (like freetype or broadcom-wl) >You are not a free beta-tester, since Leap is identical to SLE
Cameron Evans
Distrowatch means pretty much nothing.
Juan Rivera
>really like Deepin's look and want to use it >but play a lot of video games
Feels bad
Jace Wilson
Manjaro is shit, since I can't pronounce it. Is it man-jar-o or man-h-aro or man-ya-ro.
Kayden Murphy
>plays videgayms
Jeremiah Wright
As simple as it may be to refer to the Arch wiki and do it yourself, it's still easier to not have to do anything. Even if you don't have a bunch of kernels that you use from time to time, it's still far easier to manage them with a GUI. Additionally the DE/WM configs are very usable with no tweaks.
Luis Morgan
Arch at home, debian for my servers and Red Hat if I can convince my boss to fork over the cash for support.
Carson Flores
>A simplifed, user-friendly installation process No, a more complicated user-friendly installation process. The good thing about installing Arch is how fast and simple it is.
Brandon King
Most of your "points" were memes. Ubuntu and Redhat are here to stay.
Elijah Hall
Antergos Deepin my friend, or Manjaro and install deepin DE from AUR
Henry Jenkins
This. T. Kubuntu 18.04 babby
Kayden Campbell
Even though I shitpost here, I actually value my time and prefer not to fix my os whenever I want to do something. When you get older and have a job you want that too
William Roberts
>As simple as it may be to refer to the Arch wiki and do it yourself, it's still easier to not have to do anything. Arch is primarily a diy system. Automatically installing nvidia and nvidia-utils doesn't change the underlying system you're working with. Manjaro is only taking this one small step out of the hands of the user. It's not a justification for choosing Manjaro over its source, Arch.
What if you need to do some actual configuration on something? If you can't be bothered to install some drivers, how will you be able to get anything else done?
Andrew Taylor
Shits itself while trying to load novau drivers on boot :^) >source I experienced it
David Ramirez
Virgin rolling release meme distro >endlessly cucked by updates that break install >life is spent slaving away to reconfigure system >insomnia from distrowatch position change nightmares >social outcast
Chad Ubuntu >installs by dropping balls on keyboard >all packages automatically install and configure themselves out of fear >runs screenfetch while plowing miss america and she has orgasm >time travel possible >become billionaire with worlds largest harem
So dropping all the bullshit what makes base arch better than the easy install versions in a practical sense.
John Lewis
>debian >Sid is more stable than Arch >Faster releases than Arch >Good for servers AND desktops >who the fuck cares about ppas when you have everything at your fingertips >it rhymes with best porn
Find a flaw.
Logan Scott
AMDGPU usually performs better with newer kernals
Nolan Edwards
I don't use AMDGPUs, I'm on a ThinkPad T420. And you can have Sid run the latest kernal, as I currently am.
im not well read on the systemd controversy. what exactly is wrong with it?
Logan Brooks
Ok, I'll buy novidea laptop and will fix it.
Parker Adams
Fuck you
Luis Price
>systemd
Gavin Davis
you fucker.
Nicholas Morris
ok, Let's play
Fedora: >free as in freedom (if you care about that) >easy to install proprietary stuff with a well maintained 3rd party repo >dnf better at solving dependencies than other package managers >signed packages, lol >rpm is better than deb (but it's debatable) >sweet spot between rolling and point release distros >each release has up to date packages, last one year, then you HAVE to dist upgrade for at least the next release. So mostly you are doing a huge upgrade every six months or once per year. In Arch related distros this can happen between weeks and there is a high probability of failure.
desu, use whatever the fuck you want but read the fucking manual and keep supporting the community (your distro community and the global linux community)
t. linux user with more than 10 years of distro hipping
Ayden Rogers
My family is catholic, we don't believe in internet curses and pagan magic.
Into the pits of hell you go.
Logan Hughes
>installing shit on Fedora >1 main package, 3 dependencies
>installing the same shit on Debian >1 main packages, 15 depencencies
WHY?
Levi White
Who here switched to manjaro? manjaro mate reporting in.
Luke Jenkins
rofl if you use manjaro might as well use arch, manjaro just unnecessarily freezes packages, their team is way too fuckin small to make any difference in how many bugs will be in the software, you're getting the same software arch is getting, 2 weeks later. use a respectable distro like debian sid or opensuse.
Joshua Garcia
Manjaro is unironically a bigger mistake than Linux Mint. Fuck why do these trashy distros make #1?
Luis Garcia
here just wish installing things wasn't so tedious
>Arch with non of the benefits >site had invalid certificate, and instead of updating they just recommended people to ignore Trash.
Connor Cruz
my mom is already deceased, nice try faggit
Kevin Rivera
> best distro > OOBE experience > GUI frontend for pacman Shit for casuals. > > Rolling release aka "just break my shit up if I don't update every week". Imagine using that as a home distro, where people mostly update their OS when they buy a new PC. What I'm saying is it is not good for neither power users nor grandparents.
>OOBE experience >out of body experience experience
James Hughes
>web client for Microsoft Office Online how does that work? is it office hosted somewhere else
Ryan Evans
isn't manjaro just an outdated version of arch? my understanding is it was designed for people who didn't want to take the time to break their own neglected install so the manjaro team neglects and breaks it for you. seems like a weird niche to fill but i guess the market wants what it wants.
Dylan Diaz
Manjaro is shit. It's only slightky more stable then arch and shit breaks.
I wiped it clean after struggling for 1 year with it and installed elementaryOS. So much better
Jaxon Davis
yes you are correct everything you dislike is entirely terrible and everything you like is entirely good
Blake Ward
Office has been available as a SAAS for a pretty long time now. the client is just a browser without a url and tabs.
>everything you dislike is entirely terrible no, not entirely. that's just absurd. >everything you like is entirely good again, this is simply not true.
manjaro is better than arch in general, but debian testing/sid and opensuse tumbleweed are objectively cleaner and more stable distros with a rolling release model.
Robert Davis
it honestly isn't that tedious. pacman -S gives me eveything I need. Only problem I've had so far was emacs not launching, and that was because it had some dependencies that are usually satisfied on other distros by default.
Adam Powell
Why do you hate systemd?
Ryder Martinez
when it just werks from pacman -S it's okay, not any different from apt install. the problems start when you don't get something that's covered by pacman -S. I use Discord, maybe it was my connection or the mirriror I used but it was just such a slow download and install off the AUR. the packages installed so slowly and the whole thing was micro-manage hell constantly entering commands and getting stuck accidently editing install files.
It's funny when arch users think they're somehow power users or smart while using a binary blob package system but still having to fuck around in archaic, outdated conf files
Adrian Ross
I'm going to wait to form an opinion on this until I see what the majority of people think and then choose the opposite of that.
Landon Ortiz
>gaymerscord you are literally asking for it
Oliver Reyes
I was too brainlet to install arch so I installed with the Antergos image and disabled the Antergos repo so I’m basically on arch
Nicholas Jenkins
Use IRC like a grownup and stop falling for memes.
Jeremiah Davis
>compiling from source >obscure
Cameron Miller
Manjaro is the 2nd best distro. Void is better.
Blake Flores
does irc have voice chat?
Camden James
Linux is nonfree tho.
Ethan Myers
We in g should make and unpopular distribution number 1
Jordan Martinez
I can't get lewds from fuccbois from /trash/ and /soc/ without it, faglord