Which printer brands you should always avoid

Most original hp cartridges are cheap nowadays..
Also answer to OP question: Lexmark

>implying the average Jow Forumsentooman has a job

which one should i buy if i just want to print my weeb stickers?

Many of the printers almost all brands have started releasing firmware updates that prevent third party cartridges from working

Add epson to your list

Epson is a weeb company so go for them

Those very obvious Asian ones. Just years ago they had horrible firmware. Get a HP or something.

Also, why do you still need a printer?

Kyocera.
utter shit, and apart from drivers that dont work, getting these things to scan is a major achievement that only the ELit can achieve.
their customer support is also horrific.

They're all fucking garbage.
The only one that I at least trust to not break after a few weeks is "Brother".

Do you need any specialised printer to print on sticker paper? Or is any inkjet/laserjet fine?

Never had a good experience with Lexmark. Coming from a business/IT point of view.

HP 32SII calculator makes my pee pee hard.

>Most original hp cartridges are cheap nowadays
LOL, ill answer your bait shil

yeah, they are cheap, the 1ml carts... yeah ONE MILLILITER, gold os cheaper

>updating printer firmware EVER, and not just blocking its drivers and binaries from net access

anything that doesn't say Brother on it.

also Lexmark has been like 3 different companies over the past decade, literally the Chrysler of printers.

Why can't printer manufacturers just be honest and give us the actual price of those printers without having to dump the cost on the ink cartridges?

The same reason they can't sell you a printer that lasts more than a year.

I'm legitimately considering a Canon laser at this point
oy vey

I will never buy another HP printer. I don't print often, so I only get one use out of their cartridges before their encoded expiration date kicks in.
I've tried other cartridges too, but they just don't really work well.

Fuck HP

>can't afford
Somebody likes to waste money just to say they're legit. How many Macs you bought in your lifetime? Or is this all on mom's budget?

Only laser printers are worth it. Some of the HP will work with linux via ethernet too.
With inkjets I had problems both Canon and HP. Now you can't even refill them anymore, as in you can inject the ink into the new cartridge but even if you manually reset the printer it won't work.

because they sell printers at a loss. a $99 printer costs $200 to make so they take the hit then sting you with the cartridge prices.

Lexmark and Zebra both suck ass. I'd stick with HP, Brother, or Canon printers.

>chink-made printer costs $200 to make
Kek of the day, boys!

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Brother's playing the "lock out aftermarket ink/toner" game too these days, with their current models.

I have a cheap non-botnet Canon printer from 2004, I stuck some cheap aftermarket cartridges in it 2 years ago, I print like 50 pages a year, never had any problems.

I've come to the conclusion that only laser printers are close to not sucking

Fuck Argox and Zebra

i only purchase mister printer brand printers

fpbp

that was clearly bait

Everything except brother... Tho if you want best quality, Epson is good(but fucking ink prices....)

underrated

Hmm...
>Epson - cheap scam trash
>HP - here is another ml of ink, hand me your wallet
>Canon - no, we are too stupid to support postscript
>Samsung - a botnet that doesn't require a power socket to spy on you
>Brother - let's we honest, we prefer to create label printers
>Kyo - fuck you, lease us

Looks like fpbp

So when is Purism gonna make a free-as-in-freedom printer that anyone can make ink/toner cartridges for?

Laser printers will always have a higher yield compared to inkjet.
Anecdotal but we have a cheapo Ricoh laser printer (sub-500 dolars) in the office, the yield is about 4000-5000 pages (so 2000-2500 sheets of paper printed on both sides) before it runs out of toner. I honestly doubt you could print the same amount on an inkjet assuming you spend the same amount of cash on ink carts as you would on a single toner. It's also much slower to print on ink-based printers.

Inkjet is a bad choice if you print a lot and even worse if you print little, since the ink in the cartridge is going to dry and become unusable after some time.

This. A basic monochrome laser printer that just prints (none of that fax or scanning shit) is the only type I’ll ever buy. If I need photos or color I’ll go to Kinkos or some shit. For when I need to scan I use an app on my phone and just email it to myself, the rare occasions I need to fax there’s another app for that. A good printer is one that you need to interact with the least.

Brother is built like a tank, easy to repair and takes 3rd party refills

GOAT

This. You don’t know how many fucking people ask me what kind of printer to get and I say what I said above: simple black and white laser.
>Oh it doesn’t do color? I need color
NO YOU FUCKING DONT
>Oh it doesn’t scan? I need scanning
NO YOU FUCKING DONT
>oh it doesn’t fax? I need to fax
WHAT FUCKING YEAR IS IT NO YOU FUCKING DONT
>2 months later
>yeah my Walmart piece of fucking shit HP inkjet that faxes and scans and changes my adult diapers for me isn’t working properly
WHAT DID I FUCKING TELL YOU IDIOT
God damnit I hate people. You ask for my advice and don’t take it you can fuck off and die

HP ink and ink in general is a waste of money. I decided to write down the cost of ink when I had a HP printer and I printed a whole whopping 17 pages. Months later I needed to print something and the ink cartridges had dried out. That's some really expensive pages... Naturally I threw that printer away instead of buying new cartridges. I've used a black and white ever since and just ordered the few color prints I've needed online. It's cheaper than buying ink and my laser printer works perfectly ever time. Doesn't matter if it's been 3 or 6 months since I last printed something, it works and keeps on working.

>simple black and white laser.
I'm looking for exactly that right now, and it's a bitch trying to find one that I know will accept third-party toner cartridges

epson.com/ecotank-super-tank-printers

The brother L2300 I have at home does, however I only put genuine cartridges in it. As little as I print, it lasts years, and I’ve seen the refills explode inside printers and fuck up the drum and the exciter. $80 bucks for 3-4 years of reliable printing is well worth it to not find a pile of toner on my carpet one day.

and nince nobody will notice my post. here's pic retarded

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Yeah, but their ink is usually pretty cheap. I mean I get you can buy $4 chink refills but I prefer having a working printer and refilled OEM cartridges with the logo scratched off that have been fuck knows where doesn't even sound reliable enough to make that cost difference worth it.

I sell printers at a big-box and every single time someone comes in with a broken printer it's because they've been using some stupid /csg/-tier reloaded cartridges. I had one lady buy slightly wrong 3rd-party cartridges for her Brother J480 and the shitty things latched themselves into the printer and blocked the release lever so they couldn't be removed. They also wouldn't print because they were for a Brother model that was several years older. The reloads we sell as "recycled cartridges" are almost as bad, sometimes the microchip is not replaced properly and they report empty when brand new.
Refills are fucking garbage. Just buy OEM or do it yourself.

Meanwhile, at Seiko Epson:

>Hey boss,
>What's up, Iketani?
>Let's take the cheapest printers we make, attach a continuous feed system to them, and sell them for four times the normal price!
>Brilliant! Hey, if you work a tenth shift today I can give you a bonus.
>Gee, thanks boss!

Real talk Jow Forumsents:
Why is spooling still a thing? Surely there must be a better way to send jobs to a printer that isn’t as finicky as the current solution, and a better way for 2 way communication so that when you tell it to cancel it actually cancels on both the printer and computer and returns to a neutral state rather than hanging and requiring restarting one or both (and sometimes that doesn’t even work).

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>As little as I print, it lasts years
Well that's the problem. I also print very little, but I'm looking for a printer for my mom, who prints quite a lot of stuff. I wouldn't get screwed very hard by the razor-and-blades business model, she would. I also want to not support that kind of underhanded ink-DRM shit on principle.

Well, any laser is gonna be infinitely better than inkjet for people who print a lot especially. I just don’t trust the off brand cartridges not to wreck my shit.

Third-party toner cartridges isn't really a thing you should bother with unless you print a whole lot. I've been using a trusty Samsung black and white laser printer for a decade on the same toner. Those ink cartridges for ink printers dry out and if they don't they empty out pretty quickly anyway. Laser printer toners last and last if you're just printing some tickets and letters and things like that now and then. I used to work at a transport corporation where customs forms were printed out continuously (done on a computer but a paper copy was required by law or something) and toners in those printers were changed pretty frequently (not strange given that they were going all day every day). Wouldn't worry about third-party toners working unless your use-case is similar. As I said, I haven't changed toner on my black and white printer this decade and I suspect nobody will be selling toners for it by the time it's empty.

Your mom will probably be fine for years with a single toner. She's not going to be printing entire books or running her printer all day every day. Laser printer toners last a lot longer than ink, they last a whole lot longer than you'd expect. Not drying out like ink cartridges do is one reason why this is true but they also give you a whole lot more pages per toner cartridge compared to ink cartridges. Also be aware that there really is more risk with third party laser toners, third party ink cartridges don't just explode and totally fucks your printer but this really does happen with shitty laser toners.

My canon mg5650 works for me, and works with chink ink. Cost me £60 and the chink ink I buy is £7 for 3 sets of Xl. I haven't needed to order new ink in at least 9 months. Also works with cups automatically over the network, no setup needed.

My HP printers still werk fine
Sure the cartridges are expensive but at least the whole thing still werks like new and doesn't have a killswitch like certain other brands

hp

>wireless printers
If/when this thing breaks, I'm getting something with an Ethernet port. Fucking christ.

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fuck no. canon has always been shit.

It doesn't have even USB?

HP

>Print everything you need at work. That's what I do.
This

I have a canon MG3550 for emergencies that I bought refurbished, cost me £25 including cartridges

It does have USB, but I'm short on desk space as is and I'm too lazy to rearrange everything to accommodate for the printer I need maybe once every couple months.

>go to buy any home printer nowadays
>capable of turning off wireless and using USB
>does not come with a USB cable
Literally fucking why.

>Also be aware that there really is more risk with third party laser toners, third party ink cartridges don't just explode and totally fucks your printer but this really does happen with shitty laser toners.
Fucking what? Liquid ink cartridges definitely can and do explode. Toner is an easy clean, a vacuum cleaner with a HEPA filter and away you go. A leaking ink cartridge is almost impossible to clean and has a serious chance of actually killing your machine.

I am littered with USB A cables.

I have an HP OfficeJet Pro 8600. I've left it for months on end and the ink hasn't dried out. When you buy the high-yield cartridges, you can print about 2,000-2,200 pages, and it can spit out 18 pages per minute, so it's roughly comparable to a low-tier laser printer.

Previously I had a Brother HL-2170W which I destroyed with a cheap toner refill. Somehow the fucking cartridge exploded in the printer. Not worth it to save $30.

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All the physical ones.

my old job had to deal with these fucking zebra printers
god i hated them

Ricoh

I wonder this on a daily basis.
[spoiler] t. sysadmin who has to manage print servers as well[/spoiler]

Brother is pretty good. I abuse the reset codes all the time. The toner and drums are absolutely worn out but they still print well enough to print documents I'll throw at my professor, which ends up in the trash after grading anyways.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spooling
>Spooler or print management software often includes a variety of related features, such as allowing priorities to be assigned to print jobs, notifying users when their documents have been printed, distributing print jobs among several printers, selecting appropriate paper for each document, etc.

Seems in most cases, spooling doesn't have any real value for single users printing simple jobs. Major print shops trying to spew out 10k copies of something might have better use of the functionality.

>Print everything you need at work. That's what I do.
So much this. Consumer grade printers are such garbage. Even those cheapshit laser printers have problems after a year of light usage.

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the only thing epson does right is Projectors
S31+ is truly based

>not being a document artisan and handcrafting your own documents

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