>remove feature >replace it with something more inconvenient which adds cost (dongles) >or replace it with something vastly inferior in quality (wireless headphones) >call it "courage"
I still don't understand why phone companies are removing the 3.5mm jack. You can't call something obsolete if there's nothing better than it to replace it.
consider the following: bluetooth can be used to transfer arbitrary files and such transmission obviously has to be lossless it follows that you can transfer lossless flacs over bluetooth, there's just no headphones which would work this way
Camden Hernandez
Streaming audio and transferring files over bluetooth are completely different and are handled completely different as well
Jason Barnes
>which adds cost Because they can get people to spend $300 on a pair of headphones, it costs $20 to produce, and probably a quarter million in R&D. The end result is profit for the companies selling them. More profit for the replicas because they copied the originals; no R&D costs.
William Johnson
lossless audio has a high bitrate and it needs to be consistent. Even with bluetooth's 25mbps theoretical transfer speed, it's not going to be adequate for all the numerous unforseen variables that could affect this transfer rate. Transferring files is very lenient and allows slow downs or instantaneous drop-off and reconnection. If you're streaming, you need it to be consistent all the way through.
Gabriel Bailey
Yes, but files that take a long ass time to transfer. Bluetooth speeds need to go up before quality can go up. Also headphones don't decode the audio files.
Austin Baker
Consider the following: A bucket can be filled multiple times to carry an arbitrary amount of water so obviously it doesn't leak. It follows that you can swim in a bucket.
You mouth breathing oaf.
Hudson Rodriguez
>which adds cost
You get one for free with the phone.
Parker Hughes
To trigger your stupid ass
Jayden Rivera
>dongle wears out or gets lost >have to buy it again
Tyler Green
People should be more careful if they can't afford to pay for a replacement. Not to mention that they chose a phone with no headphone jack so it's really their fault regardless.
Anthony Sullivan
It is dongle. Adapter is euro plug to US, VGA to SVIDEO and so on.
Julian Perry
>thing get broke or lose thing >have to buy thing again WOW
>whine about slight loss in quality over 3.5mm cable due to analog transmission >instead, heavily compress digital audio, transfer over radio waves known for being subject to interference, then decoded and amplified by more expensive headphones and played through smaller drivers for the price Bravo Apple
Christopher White
So that you buy their dongle accessories
Brandon Ross
>device >wireless You are confused. The adapter does not have any electronics in it. Dongles contain a small pcb that usually translates data. This is just pure wiring.
Brandon Walker
Its literally not necessary. Bluetooth in my car, bluetooth headphones.
Jaxson Johnson
It’s so It can be waterproof.
Gabriel Johnson
headphone jacks require a digital to analogue converter that's expensive.
Bluetooth speakers don't have that problem.
that's why.
same reason GFX chards droped support for VGA
Camden Garcia
>waterproof >warranty void if there are moisture inside
Sebastian Brown
using an external usb dac is better if you're going wired. With this you gain use of more voltage to drive nice headphones leading to a much better listening experience. If you insist on using earbuds you may as well get them wireless, as the point of earbuds is discrete and easy to carry. Earbuds with cables aren't discrete nor easy to carry; there's a whole slew of problems with them from getting tangled and the wires getting fucked up not to mention how short the cables are most of the time and can snag on things. Running with wired audio fucking sucks too.
Jeremiah Rivera
>I still don't understand why phone companies are removing the 3.5mm jack Because the only "innovation" happening in phones at the moment is making thinner cases or adding larger batteries. A headphone jack really does take up a lot of space as far as mobile tech goes. Removing it makes the product look better on paper, and they can get away with it because most people will just move to bluetooth for convenience sake.
Brandon Long
>listens to music cancelling headphones what's wrong with you
Kevin Jackson
Badda bing badda boom
Gabriel Garcia
Then why are phones without this adapter still hundreds of dollars more expensive than phones with this adapter?
Jason Reed
>digital to analogue converter >expensive >2018
Daniel Bailey
Audio over Bluetooth is lossy
Jack Gonzalez
Because the word dongle is used to describe the excess that hangs and droops off of an electronic device.
Portmanteau of dong and dangle... cause it looks like a penis hanging from your phone/laptop/whatever.
Angel Sullivan
Just run a portable DAC/AMP and be done with it. That, or buy a phone with a 3.5mm jack and call it a day.
Caleb Williams
Other phones are waterproof and have a headphone jack
>wears out What the fuck? How the fuck can it wear out? Did your charger wire wear out too? You're more likely to get a new phone before you fuck up a wire.
Galaxy S5, retard. It even has a removable battery.
>headphone jack really does take up a lot of space It doesn't, retard.
Lincoln Hughes
do bluetooth headphones do the same shit as bluetooth speakers where they constantly cut in and out because they try to conserve power? That shit is annoying as fuck
Hudson Jackson
No, but they constantly buzz
Jaxson Jenkins
great even better
Michael James
lol tf bitch have you ever owned a fuckin iphone bitch yes my charger has worn out literally 100 times ya fuckin
Jason Wood
BT headphones aren't overall qualitatively worse, but they are more profitable.
Your fault for buying this crap though. You should just go with the Android phones that don't do this.
Nicholas Harris
Pretty much every good brand with Android phones has stopped including a 3,5 mm jack.
Brayden Scott
Wat, BT speakers don't generally.do that. Nor that. But of course there is no limit to how crappy the low end branded shit can be, they want to upmarket you to "premium" gear after all. Buy savy to avoid this.
Caleb Lee
You can simply see it as them no longer being good brands & you then proceed to buy [on import] the next Xiaomi Redmi or something.
Overall you still got many dozens of phones on the market with headphone jacks, pick one of these.
Jack Parker
The headphones still need a DA converter, all audio is analog by the time it reaches the drivers. Your comparison to VGA doesn't make any sense, since all modern monitors are digital, the same can't be said for speakers and headphones.
Levi Bell
Samsung LG OnePlus Honor
I refuse to buy products from other brands anymore
Nathan Brown
>Pretty much every good brand with Android phones has stopped including a 3,5 mm jack. My Galaxy S9+ has 3,5 mm headphone jack, if they will stop including it in new models then i won't buy their phones anymore
Levi Jackson
>nothing better 1/4" is better. 3.5mm is too fragile
Adam Roberts
thankfully the removal of useful ports is seen as a premium feature so cheap shit will be fine.
Dylan Lee
>It doesn't, retard. It does, retard. It's literally the largest component in a phone that isn't absolutely necessary.
Adrian Rogers
who fucking cares about quality of audio when you're driving or walking
Aiden Baker
Old folks who are hard of hearing and need every placebo they can get so they don't need to face the cold reality age caught up to them and their ears can't hear the differences they could when they were young
Justin Diaz
Tell that to miniature phones having 3.5mm. Tell that to Vivo Apex having the jack despite being almost 100% screen. There's nothing you can put in it's place that would need that space. You don't get any more waterproofed by removing the jack. You also don't get any thinner unless you're trying to make a gimmicky thin device or a foldable phone. Making the device thinner will just mean it will become easier to bend and break. Until headphones are made to connect directly over USB-C at the same price range removing the 3.5mm jack is retarded.
Brandon Lewis
>isn't absolutely necessary Why not remove all ports and use wireless charging exclusively. USB ports are obsolete. Fuck any device that still has them.
Carter Perry
Bluetooth isn't transparent, I know you're prpbably an Opus shill but this isn't about FLAC vs. whatever shitty FotM meme codec that claims to be "virtually lossless" at 64kbps. Bluetooth legitimately sounds like shit.
Alexander Jackson
BT headphones don't work with my Clip+.
John Gray
Then why are you here?
Jacob Rivera
>using 3.5mm >instead of based bt >not owning highend monitors that require an amp and digital pass through which would make 3.5mm moot anyway >20 fucking 18
iToddlers use the names that apple chose. Like "AirPort", hastag, etc.
Daniel Wright
Bluetooth is only ever for convenience factor. It's garbage otherwise.
Michael Murphy
>buy cheap BT headset for my first smartphone >BT doesn't connect when my phone is in my pocket and has to go trough my body Great
Aaron Young
Just don't buy shit user. Try to be smart for once. At least try. Don't disappoint me, it is bad enough you already disappointed your father when you told him you drink nothing but basedmilk and enjoy getting fucked in the ass by guys.
Carson Sullivan
>slight quality loss The only quality loss that I can think of is the interface between the plug and the port. That digital audio is inevitably going to become voltages at some point in order to vibrate a large magnet.