Anyone can access your Plex server with their own account or with your account if you haven't logged out from a PC on...

>anyone can access your Plex server with their own account or with your account if you haven't logged out from a PC on your LAN/WAN
>forces metadata on your files
>data mines everything you do
>settings for data mining always get reset when you least expect it once a day
>can't setup a local account
>if Plex goes offline, you won't be able to do shit to your own server

utter fucking garbage, why is this always shilled so much on Jow Forums

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>Not using an external HDD off your media player with Kodi.

>Not using an alternative.

>anyone can access if you haven’t logged out

What? It’s cookie based. It doesn’t log in the entire house when I log into one device on plex.

>forces metadata

In its own library. It doesn’t do anything to the file, if you mean the title and shit. If that’s what you mean, why WOULDNT you use metadata?

Because I have many devices and TVs in my house, I don’t just live in my room and play shit off my laptop. Emby is a nice alternative but unfortunately is still maturing. Kodi with SFTP doesn’t have the option of transcoding which is essential for high quality rips to be played over the Internet stutter-free. Both Emby and Plex do this. In my experience Emby used a shitload of RAM but I could’ve been doing something wrong, or it was for the initial indexing.

>can’t set up a local account

You can, though.

Can't say I've seen this shilled on Jow Forums ever or heard of it for that matter. Now that I've done a brief little search I do wonder What's The Point (seriously). Is it.. playing video files on your phone or something?

I have a NAS box with my media file collection and I just play stuff off that with either nfs or smb. Works fine. Plex and similar things have this "transcoding" capability built-in but what's the point? Everything connected to a 1080p screen can play 1080p video just fine anyway, and mpv can decode any format Plex can. Not sure why anyone would need it.

>Because I have many devices and TVs in my house, I don’t just live in my room and play shit off my laptop
goddamn normie

Look, I'm no Plex shill. I work QA for them and I think the product is fucking garbage sometimes. That said,

>wrong
>wrong
>easily disabled or DNS blocked
>see above
>true, and valid complaint. you can nginx proxy it if you want and create your own auth. it's pretty shitty they removed local accounts
>semi true. just whitelist your LAN for local auth.

good argument

>he watches pirated movies on his fucking laptop

fpbp

Name a better alternative

>inb4 muh Kodi and port forwarded SFTP with keyauth lagfest

>>semi true. just whitelist your LAN for local auth.

can you please elaborate for a brainlet. i currently run plex on a home server that i have internet locked on my router. normally this works fine but i notice that when i add a new client or the plex client on my internet appliance (roku or whatever) updates i can't access my local server without giving the local server internet access temporarily. i'd prefer not to have to do this if i can avoid it.

>emby randomly drops support for their opensuse repo

why did I fall for this meme?

Only good selling point is on-the-fly transcoding and streaming while you're out of your house, which is probably the only reasons why you'd consider home servers like this. Comfy for when you don't have to worry whether you brought that movie with you on your trip.
Or if you have others living with you that use those dumb firesticks and shit.

>streaming
>gee
s-sure...

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Since when can people access your plex machine without your authorization?

You pretty much got it. Plex transcoding is the best I've seen so far but I have a lot of things about it. Orb (aka Winamp remote) was fucking awesome. It kept my folder structure and supported subtitles and no superfluous fluff like plex and other shit have. I just want it simple. Whatever file structure I have, I want to see it in the app and have time transcoding. Alas, orb is dead.

>dumb

What the fuck else are they supposed to use? A raspberry pi? Not everyone wants to hook up a full PC or laptop to a TV just to watch movies and DLNA on TVs is a fucking joke.

>>if Plex goes offline, you won't be able to do shit to your own server

If I have an Internet outage my plex works just fine in the house. WTF are you talking about.

I use 2 fire sticks, one for living room and one for bedroom. What else would you recommend I use? Genuinely interested. I’m not going to awkwardly use my laptop on my TV.

>>can't setup a local account
are you retarded?

Cool blog post, kid

guess I'll just have to continue using emby then. oh well.

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Not him but plex on my tv wont work without net. No apps work.

im using the mini m8s II (s905x) for over a year
it was 30 bucks on aliexpress. it can play 4k movies on kodi without problem, it also runs netflix but only at 720p i think
anyways, pretty good box, the wifi can be a bit weak though. i also use it to play old games with an xbox controller.
One of those mini bluetooth keyboard with touchpad is necessary imo and is much more useful than a wireless mouse or remote control

What’s your average RAM usage just idling? No transcoding etc

Doesn’t the newest fire stick play 4K? x264 at least. I know the regular FireTV does.

>allowing anyone access to your local network
>not disabling remote access
Easily solved.

I made my own with:
sqlite3 + omx-player + ffmpeg + ssh + python technologies

why do I prefer it?
it has a simple list of all of my movies, it turns them red when they have been watched
it is in alphabetical order

what more would one need?

>easily disabled or DNS blocked
How? Help plz

something not retarded....why did you waste all that time programming that instead of just using kodi and an SMB share or some shit, it marks stuff that is watched and it’s open source

an afternoon on the weekend to make something infinitely better than plex, in every way, and faster, and lighter weight, and no bugs isn't a waste of time

ujelly

kodi is dog shit and runs like your fat ass does.

plex is fucking garbage too though.

>in every way
>90% of features removed = better

ok lmfao thanks for the laugh

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bloat isn't a feature.
the databases of both get absolutely destroyed by themselves and constantly fuck up.

if i'm using no transcoding i'm not using emby then
but it maxes out intel celeron N3150 @ 1.60ghz when transcoding. ram isn't a transcoding thing, it actually saves the files to a temp directory (which I've made a ramdisk) and that fills up because emby never deletes the temporary transcodes until you stop playback

Never has happened here

Only reasons why I use it:
>DLNA has a category for recently aired
Works great when I want to watch whatever aired in the past week.
>I can easily access it when I'm outside the house.
Just log into plex and I now have access.

Only thing I hate about it is that there is absolutely no way to disable transcoding.
I have a 2009 atom powered computer.... About as powerful as a 200 dollar smartphone released in 2012. So it's only useful as a fileserver.
Just transferring data over the internet will use 60% cpu power.... Not including encrypting the connection first. That jumps to 100% cpu usage.

your 3 movie library with only you using it probably will never have issues.

mpv+ssh doesn't have this problem.

Even though it's unsafe I don't encrypt the connection because using any encryption the cpu will bottleneck.
ssh/ftps/https

Nice try, I have 215 movies and over 40 TV shows. Sorry about your shitty install.

Nah I understand it’s not a RAM thing. The first time I tried Emby in early 2017 l, I ran it in an Ubuntu container on Proxmox and just pointed it to my existing movie/tv library. I assigned it 2GB of RAM and it maxed it out with in 10 minutes. I don’t know if it was indexing or that’s just how much it uses, but I deleted the container after that and continued using Plex. I was experimenting with Emby, and that ruined it for me. If that was just my error or it was temporary usage id like to give it a try again. Plex only uses 150MB of RAM for me when not transcoding.

>needing a media manager
Literally just make a samba server and stream it with mpv from the command line, retards.

I just tested it out and it didn't use hardly any ram with and without transcoding.
I'm so retarded I watch tv transcoded and streamed from my server to my screen at work where all I have is a web browser and shitty bandwidth.

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>using the command line from my couch
i'm good

Browsers are aweful for playback
Why not use an actual media player with proper debanding and scalers

>not just using SMB

I have two severs, thousands of music albums, hundreds of anime, and not as much movies and shows

And still never had a problem with the database. You're just bad

Hmmm I might give it another try then. Might be just a lot of RAM for indexing at first and then it goes away, or a bugged version. Thanks for the info user

He’s at work, I don’t think he gives a fuck about minuscule shit like that

Kodi is still king. Using it with an Android TV box and share my shit from my PC over SMB.

Considering buying a new Android box that supports DVB though.

>not buying everything and using a vcr/dvd player

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>Look, I'm no Plex shill.
>I work QA for them
You are literally a shill for them.

Just wait until Emby tries to unlock all of the features behind a paywall. Fuck the Emby devs, the fork or streama can't mature fast enough

Can emby act as my personal Spotify? I know Plex can but the Plex pass kills it.

>what is emby
>what is Kodi

Plex is utter shit

He means streaming externally you dimwit.

Plex is dogshit botnet now and its just going to get worse. Kodi is the most matured alternative. Use it with Samba and just dont expect it ti be as seamless as Plex for now.
I bought a lifetime Plex pass a few years ago and deeply regret it now. It was nice but their privacy policy and trajectory is not good for privacy aware end users. Ive dumped them completely.
Plex was one of the things that got me into self-hosting so I do apreciate that. But PLEX is shit botnet now.

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>he only has 215 movies and 40 tv shows
started your collection last month?

20MB/s (~80 mbps) is plenty of throughput for videos

>what is Kodi

not a server

>started your collection last month?

something something shifting the goal posts yada yada

kodi is an absolute clusterfuck collection of garbage. Regardless it's still better than plex.
minidlna is infinitely better than kodi's useless features.

these retards probably treat it like a server because they're too stupid to set up anything else (even if it's easier, and faster)

>still better than plex

and yet it’s still not a server

My plex is local, buddy

>using plex
LOL
>using kodi
lol

wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ReadyMedia

This is like the fifth time this week I've seen Jow Forums mention Plex.

Shills

Do you stream porn with Plex? Is there a plugin that would be able to support porn metadata?

>not a server
Wikipedia seems to disagree.

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Universal Media Server is the perfect solution except it's based on java

>if Plex goes offline, you won't be able to do shit to your own server
>semi true. just whitelist your LAN for local auth.
this should be enabled by default. makes no sense as to why you can't enable it when you have no internet.

In a world where basically everything ever has hardware decoding, I don't understand PLEX being used in a LAN, and only somewhat get it for remote use.
Whats the point? No really, I don't get PLEX. In a LAN just fucking network drive that shit and render locally on said device.

Over LAN? Firestick, Rokustick, Chromecast, Alexa, Google Home, Sonos, Apple whatever, Xbox, PlayStation, etc.
I mean, it's literally doing what it's supposed to do: be a server.

Transcoding on the fly, easily sync to pretty much any device, metadata is useful, just werks, takes about 2 minutes to set up, maintains itself, rarely goofs the floof.

I've always taken my old PC and just made a HTPC in stead of getting rid of it. Have a Phenom 2 doing the job currently with a nice quiet fan. While I get what you're saying, there is really no disadvantage to the HTPC route if you have an extra PC or laptop laying around since even in power usage, it will likely use less power to just decode content locally instead of needing a nice PC to do on the fly re encoding.

>>anyone can access your Plex server with their own account or with your account if you haven't logged out from a PC on your LAN/WAN
I live alone so whatever
>forces metadata on your files
...ok
>data mines everything you do
I'm not accessing my bank. I'm watching movies so I don't care
>settings for data mining always get reset when you least expect it once a day
Ok
>can't setup a local account
So load up Kodi and watch from there
>if Plex goes offline, you won't be able to do shit to your own server
So load up Kodi and watch from there

Plex is for sharing media with idiots who have no idea how computers work. I use it so my family and friends can watch whatever I've got stored. It serves its function.

>What if it doesn't work?
Then I suppose it nestles in perfectly with most linux software. Use another that is working and come back when it works again.

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>upnp

I mean if you consider in the very basic definition of a server (no better than a basic SMB), sure lol

plex is meme tier garbage

Buy a nas then...

I use it because I want an app that’s not Kodi for my set top boxes. I’m not going to recycle my huge tower as an HTPC. It’s a fucking eyesore and uses way more power than a simple chromecast or FireTV. The plex app is pretty nice and I enjoy using it on my FireTV. I only use transcoding for remote viewing or x265 files (fire sticks can’t play them hardware accelerated afaik right now, but fireTVs can)

trips of truth right there.

I just use it to watch movies on my laptop if i cant be asked to get out of bed and walk over to the sofa

>buy a NAS

How does that answer the question? I already have a Xeon server for my house that serves all my content. Plex is just an addition to it that gives me a nice interface for my content with no setup required from anywhere I want.

This.
I don't even use Plex but I have it installed so my cousins can watch what I upload on their PS4. It's good at doing what it's good at doing.

>Buy a nas
What idiot on Jow Forums buys a purpose-built nas box?

Go buy an old Dell from craigslist and throw four hard drives in it with a bunch of RAM.

If they don't fit, use double-sided tape and slap them where they do fit.

There. Nas done.

Sure, while I’m at it I’ll buy raspberry pis and mini usb keyboards for all of them, then manually configure them all to read my SMB share. And then I’ll happily deal with constant stuttering via SFTP on Kodi remotely with my 4K movies because I don’t have 30mbps bandwidth up/down everywhere I go. But at least I’m not using Plex! That’s for normies! Thanks user.

NAS does transcoding?

Yeah, and we all know wikipedia is always right... not like it's just fucktards like you typing shit in....

I know you're joking but I'm not really buying that anyone would think raspberrypi's would not only stream 4K with their ethernet tied to USB2, but that they would be able to display it even if it was local.

If you want to stream 4k, you'll probably need a dedicated box (that can handle it) in that room loaded with your 4k media. Just toss a 1TB drive at least in that machine and transfer the files over before playing them.

True, the only real thing that keeps me on Plex is the streaming capabilities outside of LAN.

The Flint Lockwood solution

Sure does!
Just install Plex...

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Most modern box players can already play x265 4K rips hardware accelerated. I simply haven’t upgraded yet. I’m still on Gen 2 Fire Stick and Chromecast and my TVs are 1080p too, I just downscale to 1080p instead my server has a Xeon E3-1240v3 so I don’t mind and it’s power efficient. Once I upgrade to new boxes and TVs in the near future I won’t have to redownload my library as new copies of movies I download are already in 4K.