>anyone can access your Plex server with their own account or with your account if you haven't logged out from a PC on your LAN/WAN >forces metadata on your files >data mines everything you do >settings for data mining always get reset when you least expect it once a day >can't setup a local account >if Plex goes offline, you won't be able to do shit to your own server
utter fucking garbage, why is this always shilled so much on Jow Forums
>Not using an external HDD off your media player with Kodi.
>Not using an alternative.
Justin Brooks
>anyone can access if you haven’t logged out
What? It’s cookie based. It doesn’t log in the entire house when I log into one device on plex.
>forces metadata
In its own library. It doesn’t do anything to the file, if you mean the title and shit. If that’s what you mean, why WOULDNT you use metadata?
Joshua Roberts
Because I have many devices and TVs in my house, I don’t just live in my room and play shit off my laptop. Emby is a nice alternative but unfortunately is still maturing. Kodi with SFTP doesn’t have the option of transcoding which is essential for high quality rips to be played over the Internet stutter-free. Both Emby and Plex do this. In my experience Emby used a shitload of RAM but I could’ve been doing something wrong, or it was for the initial indexing.
Ryan Clark
>can’t set up a local account
You can, though.
Angel Jenkins
Can't say I've seen this shilled on Jow Forums ever or heard of it for that matter. Now that I've done a brief little search I do wonder What's The Point (seriously). Is it.. playing video files on your phone or something?
I have a NAS box with my media file collection and I just play stuff off that with either nfs or smb. Works fine. Plex and similar things have this "transcoding" capability built-in but what's the point? Everything connected to a 1080p screen can play 1080p video just fine anyway, and mpv can decode any format Plex can. Not sure why anyone would need it.
Lucas Lewis
>Because I have many devices and TVs in my house, I don’t just live in my room and play shit off my laptop goddamn normie
Ryan Scott
Look, I'm no Plex shill. I work QA for them and I think the product is fucking garbage sometimes. That said,
>wrong >wrong >easily disabled or DNS blocked >see above >true, and valid complaint. you can nginx proxy it if you want and create your own auth. it's pretty shitty they removed local accounts >semi true. just whitelist your LAN for local auth.
Sebastian Ortiz
good argument
Easton Perry
>he watches pirated movies on his fucking laptop
Angel Morris
fpbp
Chase Robinson
Name a better alternative
Blake Thomas
>inb4 muh Kodi and port forwarded SFTP with keyauth lagfest
Asher Bailey
>>semi true. just whitelist your LAN for local auth.
can you please elaborate for a brainlet. i currently run plex on a home server that i have internet locked on my router. normally this works fine but i notice that when i add a new client or the plex client on my internet appliance (roku or whatever) updates i can't access my local server without giving the local server internet access temporarily. i'd prefer not to have to do this if i can avoid it.
Brayden Diaz
>emby randomly drops support for their opensuse repo
why did I fall for this meme?
Luke Hughes
Only good selling point is on-the-fly transcoding and streaming while you're out of your house, which is probably the only reasons why you'd consider home servers like this. Comfy for when you don't have to worry whether you brought that movie with you on your trip. Or if you have others living with you that use those dumb firesticks and shit.
Since when can people access your plex machine without your authorization?
Chase Jenkins
You pretty much got it. Plex transcoding is the best I've seen so far but I have a lot of things about it. Orb (aka Winamp remote) was fucking awesome. It kept my folder structure and supported subtitles and no superfluous fluff like plex and other shit have. I just want it simple. Whatever file structure I have, I want to see it in the app and have time transcoding. Alas, orb is dead.
Jaxon Richardson
>dumb
What the fuck else are they supposed to use? A raspberry pi? Not everyone wants to hook up a full PC or laptop to a TV just to watch movies and DLNA on TVs is a fucking joke.
Christian Clark
>>if Plex goes offline, you won't be able to do shit to your own server
If I have an Internet outage my plex works just fine in the house. WTF are you talking about.
Dominic Morris
I use 2 fire sticks, one for living room and one for bedroom. What else would you recommend I use? Genuinely interested. I’m not going to awkwardly use my laptop on my TV.
Ethan Cooper
>>can't setup a local account are you retarded?
Bentley Martin
Cool blog post, kid
Jose Cooper
guess I'll just have to continue using emby then. oh well.
Not him but plex on my tv wont work without net. No apps work.
Grayson Ortiz
im using the mini m8s II (s905x) for over a year it was 30 bucks on aliexpress. it can play 4k movies on kodi without problem, it also runs netflix but only at 720p i think anyways, pretty good box, the wifi can be a bit weak though. i also use it to play old games with an xbox controller. One of those mini bluetooth keyboard with touchpad is necessary imo and is much more useful than a wireless mouse or remote control
Thomas Lopez
What’s your average RAM usage just idling? No transcoding etc
Luke Smith
Doesn’t the newest fire stick play 4K? x264 at least. I know the regular FireTV does.
Thomas Wright
>allowing anyone access to your local network >not disabling remote access Easily solved.
Joshua Bennett
I made my own with: sqlite3 + omx-player + ffmpeg + ssh + python technologies
why do I prefer it? it has a simple list of all of my movies, it turns them red when they have been watched it is in alphabetical order
what more would one need?
Aiden Gomez
>easily disabled or DNS blocked How? Help plz
Robert Nguyen
something not retarded....why did you waste all that time programming that instead of just using kodi and an SMB share or some shit, it marks stuff that is watched and it’s open source
Leo Clark
an afternoon on the weekend to make something infinitely better than plex, in every way, and faster, and lighter weight, and no bugs isn't a waste of time
bloat isn't a feature. the databases of both get absolutely destroyed by themselves and constantly fuck up.
Luke Anderson
if i'm using no transcoding i'm not using emby then but it maxes out intel celeron N3150 @ 1.60ghz when transcoding. ram isn't a transcoding thing, it actually saves the files to a temp directory (which I've made a ramdisk) and that fills up because emby never deletes the temporary transcodes until you stop playback
Lincoln Hall
Never has happened here
Charles Rivera
Only reasons why I use it: >DLNA has a category for recently aired Works great when I want to watch whatever aired in the past week. >I can easily access it when I'm outside the house. Just log into plex and I now have access.
Only thing I hate about it is that there is absolutely no way to disable transcoding. I have a 2009 atom powered computer.... About as powerful as a 200 dollar smartphone released in 2012. So it's only useful as a fileserver. Just transferring data over the internet will use 60% cpu power.... Not including encrypting the connection first. That jumps to 100% cpu usage.
Jason Kelly
your 3 movie library with only you using it probably will never have issues.
Robert Martin
mpv+ssh doesn't have this problem.
Robert Brooks
Even though it's unsafe I don't encrypt the connection because using any encryption the cpu will bottleneck. ssh/ftps/https
Aaron Williams
Nice try, I have 215 movies and over 40 TV shows. Sorry about your shitty install.
Robert Howard
Nah I understand it’s not a RAM thing. The first time I tried Emby in early 2017 l, I ran it in an Ubuntu container on Proxmox and just pointed it to my existing movie/tv library. I assigned it 2GB of RAM and it maxed it out with in 10 minutes. I don’t know if it was indexing or that’s just how much it uses, but I deleted the container after that and continued using Plex. I was experimenting with Emby, and that ruined it for me. If that was just my error or it was temporary usage id like to give it a try again. Plex only uses 150MB of RAM for me when not transcoding.
Daniel Morales
>needing a media manager Literally just make a samba server and stream it with mpv from the command line, retards.
Robert Howard
I just tested it out and it didn't use hardly any ram with and without transcoding. I'm so retarded I watch tv transcoded and streamed from my server to my screen at work where all I have is a web browser and shitty bandwidth.
Browsers are aweful for playback Why not use an actual media player with proper debanding and scalers
Bentley Campbell
>not just using SMB
Asher Gutierrez
I have two severs, thousands of music albums, hundreds of anime, and not as much movies and shows
And still never had a problem with the database. You're just bad
Christian Hernandez
Hmmm I might give it another try then. Might be just a lot of RAM for indexing at first and then it goes away, or a bugged version. Thanks for the info user
Jackson Carter
He’s at work, I don’t think he gives a fuck about minuscule shit like that
Oliver Mitchell
Kodi is still king. Using it with an Android TV box and share my shit from my PC over SMB.
Considering buying a new Android box that supports DVB though.
>Look, I'm no Plex shill. >I work QA for them You are literally a shill for them.
Cameron Anderson
Just wait until Emby tries to unlock all of the features behind a paywall. Fuck the Emby devs, the fork or streama can't mature fast enough
Jeremiah Turner
Can emby act as my personal Spotify? I know Plex can but the Plex pass kills it.
Nolan Bell
>what is emby >what is Kodi
Plex is utter shit
Chase Torres
He means streaming externally you dimwit.
Nolan Watson
Plex is dogshit botnet now and its just going to get worse. Kodi is the most matured alternative. Use it with Samba and just dont expect it ti be as seamless as Plex for now. I bought a lifetime Plex pass a few years ago and deeply regret it now. It was nice but their privacy policy and trajectory is not good for privacy aware end users. Ive dumped them completely. Plex was one of the things that got me into self-hosting so I do apreciate that. But PLEX is shit botnet now.
>he only has 215 movies and 40 tv shows started your collection last month?
20MB/s (~80 mbps) is plenty of throughput for videos
Noah Morris
>what is Kodi
not a server
Kayden Morales
>started your collection last month?
something something shifting the goal posts yada yada
Joseph Reed
kodi is an absolute clusterfuck collection of garbage. Regardless it's still better than plex. minidlna is infinitely better than kodi's useless features.
Wyatt Nelson
these retards probably treat it like a server because they're too stupid to set up anything else (even if it's easier, and faster)
Universal Media Server is the perfect solution except it's based on java
Wyatt Hill
>if Plex goes offline, you won't be able to do shit to your own server >semi true. just whitelist your LAN for local auth. this should be enabled by default. makes no sense as to why you can't enable it when you have no internet.
Connor Stewart
In a world where basically everything ever has hardware decoding, I don't understand PLEX being used in a LAN, and only somewhat get it for remote use. Whats the point? No really, I don't get PLEX. In a LAN just fucking network drive that shit and render locally on said device.
Cooper Phillips
Over LAN? Firestick, Rokustick, Chromecast, Alexa, Google Home, Sonos, Apple whatever, Xbox, PlayStation, etc. I mean, it's literally doing what it's supposed to do: be a server.
Isaiah Torres
Transcoding on the fly, easily sync to pretty much any device, metadata is useful, just werks, takes about 2 minutes to set up, maintains itself, rarely goofs the floof.
Aiden Nguyen
I've always taken my old PC and just made a HTPC in stead of getting rid of it. Have a Phenom 2 doing the job currently with a nice quiet fan. While I get what you're saying, there is really no disadvantage to the HTPC route if you have an extra PC or laptop laying around since even in power usage, it will likely use less power to just decode content locally instead of needing a nice PC to do on the fly re encoding.
Jose Barnes
>>anyone can access your Plex server with their own account or with your account if you haven't logged out from a PC on your LAN/WAN I live alone so whatever >forces metadata on your files ...ok >data mines everything you do I'm not accessing my bank. I'm watching movies so I don't care >settings for data mining always get reset when you least expect it once a day Ok >can't setup a local account So load up Kodi and watch from there >if Plex goes offline, you won't be able to do shit to your own server So load up Kodi and watch from there
Plex is for sharing media with idiots who have no idea how computers work. I use it so my family and friends can watch whatever I've got stored. It serves its function.
>What if it doesn't work? Then I suppose it nestles in perfectly with most linux software. Use another that is working and come back when it works again.
I mean if you consider in the very basic definition of a server (no better than a basic SMB), sure lol
Owen Robinson
plex is meme tier garbage
Isaiah Robinson
Buy a nas then...
Jacob Foster
I use it because I want an app that’s not Kodi for my set top boxes. I’m not going to recycle my huge tower as an HTPC. It’s a fucking eyesore and uses way more power than a simple chromecast or FireTV. The plex app is pretty nice and I enjoy using it on my FireTV. I only use transcoding for remote viewing or x265 files (fire sticks can’t play them hardware accelerated afaik right now, but fireTVs can)
Jordan Phillips
trips of truth right there.
I just use it to watch movies on my laptop if i cant be asked to get out of bed and walk over to the sofa
Tyler Harris
>buy a NAS
How does that answer the question? I already have a Xeon server for my house that serves all my content. Plex is just an addition to it that gives me a nice interface for my content with no setup required from anywhere I want.
Ayden Barnes
This. I don't even use Plex but I have it installed so my cousins can watch what I upload on their PS4. It's good at doing what it's good at doing.
Asher Hernandez
>Buy a nas What idiot on Jow Forums buys a purpose-built nas box?
Go buy an old Dell from craigslist and throw four hard drives in it with a bunch of RAM.
If they don't fit, use double-sided tape and slap them where they do fit.
There. Nas done.
Charles Fisher
Sure, while I’m at it I’ll buy raspberry pis and mini usb keyboards for all of them, then manually configure them all to read my SMB share. And then I’ll happily deal with constant stuttering via SFTP on Kodi remotely with my 4K movies because I don’t have 30mbps bandwidth up/down everywhere I go. But at least I’m not using Plex! That’s for normies! Thanks user.
Elijah Butler
NAS does transcoding?
Jackson Cooper
Yeah, and we all know wikipedia is always right... not like it's just fucktards like you typing shit in....
Eli Perez
I know you're joking but I'm not really buying that anyone would think raspberrypi's would not only stream 4K with their ethernet tied to USB2, but that they would be able to display it even if it was local.
If you want to stream 4k, you'll probably need a dedicated box (that can handle it) in that room loaded with your 4k media. Just toss a 1TB drive at least in that machine and transfer the files over before playing them.
Liam Lewis
True, the only real thing that keeps me on Plex is the streaming capabilities outside of LAN.
Most modern box players can already play x265 4K rips hardware accelerated. I simply haven’t upgraded yet. I’m still on Gen 2 Fire Stick and Chromecast and my TVs are 1080p too, I just downscale to 1080p instead my server has a Xeon E3-1240v3 so I don’t mind and it’s power efficient. Once I upgrade to new boxes and TVs in the near future I won’t have to redownload my library as new copies of movies I download are already in 4K.