Are tiling window managers just a meme or do they increase productivity and efficiency?

My mistake.....X fecal matter looks great in 2018....

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It's just a meme. Use tmux and a floating wm.

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some may say awesome is
but, awesome manages to actually use more RAM than a lot of floating WMs
So, its bloated
So yeah probably i3 is best but I dunno

you dont even need tmux, lots of terminals can just split their windows. terminator comes to mind

xmonad does a good job of being functional and customizable but still using few resources.

Dunno if I'd recommend it to a newbie.

trying i3 was one of the best decisions I've made

It doesn't make me cringe but it does make me hate every waking moment of my fucking life when I get stuck on a windows workstation
At least OSX has workspaces

I don't think it's anything revolutionary, but window management and selection is much more convenient on a tiling wm than floating since you don't have to lift your fingers from the keyboard. For example if you want to open up three windows on a workspace, have one take up the left half of the screen while the other two are horizontally split on the right side, and resize them, you can do all of that right from your keyboard.
It's even more convenient if you have more than one window in each corner, since floating wms lose their functionality for snapping windows past one per corner.

Kinda pointless, I don't find myself tiling the windows in more ways than just split-screen vertical with awesome. If I cram too many windows on the screen it becomes more annoying. Like for example, in your screenshot only 1/maybe 2 of those terminals are usable. Just using tmux/screen or multiple workspaces is more than enough.

Yes because it exposes the sorry state of tech companies today.

Instead of actually fixing things and making good UI, microsoft just keeps broken stuff from 30 years ago and shuffles the menus around.

Apple does the same thing but every now and then when some third party developer makes an OS modification that gets too popular they will rip it off and make their own official version that is worse.

All the good UI designers these days are busy making pointless smartphone apps it seems. The only purpose of these OSes even getting major upgrades recently is to bring them to parity with mobile operating systems, which if you ask me, is a UI regression. We went from having rich and explorable interfaces, which now people are complaining about because they are too complicated, to having the same level of complexity except now everything is hidden behind some random touchscreen gestures. Documentation is verboten, everything is made with some kind of tutorial, preferably delivered through youtube videos.

>All the good UI designers these days are busy making pointless smartphone apps it seems
Sure doesn't seem like it. I can't think of a single smartphone app that isn't a pain to use.

Windows 10 has workspaces and it uses dwm.

>uses dwm
lol'd

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I don't know about productivity and efficiency, honestly a good 75% of me programming is just staring at a screen thinking "what in the actual fuck am I doing", and a tiling wm doesn't change that. Its just preference, you can use it for a while and see if you like it.

Desktop windows manager is the only wm that you need.

xmonad is good. Maybe a bit harder to configure, but it functions alot like i3. I have a hard time picking a favorite.

I literally can't use anything else.

It isn't about productivity at all, they are just better period.

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Herbstluft is the best wm. Too bad it won't be ported to Wayland.

xmonad and i3 are fucking garbage lol.

damn right

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Fellas

if you aren't using herbstluftwm

u suck

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I never used multiple desktops before, with i3 I learn to use them. One for browser, one for music, one for file manager, etc.

Before i3 I always put everything in one desktop (LXDE, Xfce, Gnome, KDE, etc. I use a base Xfce installation and then I install i3. It's easier because most things are set up and I just have to autostart the stuff I need in i3.

My main problem with tiling wm's, although most of my experience is with Xmonad (my daily driver) so others might be different, is that they attempt to tile some windows that shouldn't be tiled (dialogs and such) and to solve the issue you have to add the offending window to the relevant config and it can take a while until the set of programs in that config matches the set of programs you use, and even then you get the occasional program that didn't follow some standard and still gets tiled.

The other problem I have is that minimizing windows feels hacky since it's not part of the "tiling paradigm" but it can occasionally be very useful.

If program developers paid more attention to standards and gave a thought to the fact that things other than Gnome and KDE exist, tiling wms would be perfect.

True, they still lack polishment, anyone can test this by clicking on "report". I don't think there's a easy fix for this type of problem.
Never felt the need to minimize anything, just send the window to some other workspace or use stacking.

is it xfce's fault you chose a terrible theme?

>Never felt the need to minimize anything, just send the window to some other workspace or use stacking.
That's what I end up doing too, but then about an hour down the line when I need that window back, I have to look through the workspaces to remember where I stuck that damn window. It's worse if I have more windows of that type open with slightly different content. Then, there are some windows that don't play nice (like Steam) so if I want to keep it open I have to have it occupying some space somewhere, because it will close if I try to close the window and leave only the taskbar icon (XMonad.Layout.Minimize solves this particular problem but it's hacky).

Once upon a time I tried having a "Scrap" workspace where I stuck all the windows I wasn't using, but that had it's own faults.

let me guess
you use awesome lol

Jow Forums is gonna kill me for saying this, but I was working on a website widget served on localhost using node, and I was using an IDE, and I was using chrome to develop it. Being able to flip through windows and setups with i3 is amazing. I would have wasted so much time going from window to window using my mouse. Using dmenu to plop applications without having to search was also amazing. I almost entirely use incognito on chrome, so with dmenu I'm able to select Google Chrome and type in flags like --incognito. It's not a meme, tiling window managers are great for managing windows.

Also, how come nobody's mentioned ricing yet? Go on Jow Forumsunixporn

I find tiling window managers an absolute must for laptops, because I don't like using the touchpad to interact with windows and tiling window managers such as i3 allow me to set keybinds to do everything I want by just using the keyboard.
As for desktop computers, I'd rather go with a full DE + floating windows, since it's more comfortable to use on a mouse.

Tmux can do much more than splitting terminals, like sessions, proper copy paste support, synchronized panes. And Tmux is portable, so you can use it on every terminal emulator, even on the tty without X.

xmonad is closer to dwm in function than i3.

I use i3 and find it much more efficient that a DE mainly because of having to learn key combinations for everything including workspace switching. I rarely tile beyond simple split screen and even occasionally use tabbed mode.

Also a major plus is I've never had i3 (or any slim WM) crash on me ever. Can't say that for gnome.

They're generally less heavy than floating ones and don't include functionality that I personally do not use.

>nodejs
>IDE
>chrome
>reddit
>rice

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