We did it, reddit!

>leninist
lol nobody is leninist

>control 90% of political speech that takes place in the country, effectively in control of the nation's "public square"
>decide you can trample on people's free speech rights because you live in an echo chamber

Sorry sweetie, this has already been decided in Marsh v Alabama

BAKE THE CAKE BIGOT

You should check out the commerce clause if you really want your jimmies rustled.

My opinion on it is the idea of it and golden picture of net neutrality is good. But when you consider the logistics of it there really isn't a way to make it work well.

inb4 veto

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Jow Forumsniggers eternally btfo

Is it bad that I hate those faggots so much that I want net neutrality to die just to see them cry

I don't give a shit

I think he's saying he is unable to refute right wing ideas so he would rather just make them go away, essentially saying that right wing ideas, like white people, are superior

I like doxing commies and preventing them from receiving government funds

I'm still amazed that Jow Forums sided with a literal pajeet just to own the ledditors

its a lot of 'good' ideas but it creates more problems; the outcome will be bad
alternatively, if there is no net neutrality, then the idea that net neutrality is against can take place, the outcome will be bad
the solution is either for net neutrality to have never been a thing in the first place
or to draft an alternative which is done properly

oh boy, jewgle can keep making shekels and banning people they don't agree with

my excitement has never been this great

>hurrrr Reddit supports X therefore I must oppose X!
Fucking contrarians I swear.

Reminder that the road to hell is paved with good intentions :^)

>tfw reading about filburn

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go back

Just vote for Ronald Rump in the 2020 election and they might end up killing themselves.

it doesn't matter.
its good - in theory.
of course, its irrelevant because whats under discussion isnt *real* net neutrality, nor would *real* neutrality last more than five minutes as a matter of actual practice or law because humans and their constituent governing entities are inherently corruptible and the rational non-meme reaction would be to try to design a decentralized internet which is architecturally uncensorable or throttled under the auspices of the monopolies who control its chokepoints
but apparently showing the tiniest skepticism means youre a magapede trump supporter, so YAY!

If he ends up winning*

>HAH, checkmate DRUMPFKIN. I only have to kill myself IF Blormptan Blompf wins.

does this mean my porn is safe?
i don't know

This response is too intelligent for Jow Forums.

Won't pass the House, though.

Just remember that we warned you how censorship is a slippery slope. You should stand up for the right of those with different opinions to speak their mind freely. You risk being banned next if you don't. Times change. You may celebrate people with the "wrong ideas" being arrested - yes, this happens in both Sweden and Germany now but I can assure you that you won't be cheering when you're arrested and possibly shot in the head for your opinions later on.

Study history. Every revolution that's lead to an authoritarian government has resulted to a large majority of those who participated in it being murdered. Activists are useful before the shift in power but they are always seen as a threat when it's done. Always.

BEK THE KEK

shhhhhhhh

>Times change
we're on the right side of history drumphy

Why is every voter against net neutrality republican?

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>Goes to Senate
>Dies

Lol.

>why dont White people want my jewish genocidal communism any more?

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You don’t own nothing, goyem

heh thx for the location data nerds news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17081684

I don't like it. I think it's a form of corporate welfare

You posted this shit after solved a captcha. Apologize.

That's a matter of perspective and opinion.
If you want big brother to control the internet, you're for it. If you don't, you're against.

Pretty much. I don't have a lot of sympathy for the right these days. Racism and Xenophobia are rampant and guess what guys? It's not good for business OR people with actual morals. So yeah, probably never going to have that safe space for saying whatever makes your hitler fetish tick. So sorry, I guess you can still go around talking about how poor and disadvantaged white people in America are even though you're statistically wealthy and the obvious recipients of social privilege due to being a long standing majority.

So yeah probably don't slap that roman solute on your youtube channel and then run to the FCC complaining that you weren't allowed to do something fucking immoral and stupid on someone else's platform. That isn't neutrality its hate.

>Jow Forums - Technology
So this "reddit" thing is bad, or something?

>kike ISPs vs kike leftist redditors
>both of them want to jew us
I don't know who's jewing who anymore

No but it prevents Comcast from doing it. This is a huge victory when you consider that Comcast has the ability to censor in ways registrars cannot. While a registrar or host can pull down a website it's fully plausible to reconnect it over any access point, including one you pay for directly from the ISP. But if ISPs can legally discriminate, they're not going to allow controversial content on their hardware.

It's good.

>If you want big brother to control the internet, you're for it. If you don't, you're against.

The NSA already has direct access to telecom hardware directly with or without NN. The only thing NN changes is the ability for lawful websites to use private networking hardware (the internet) without having to submit to content standards or special charges from the ISP.

This is a big deal because if the government wanted to censor web content in the first place having NN dead makes that job much easier as companies can be lobbied to self-censor like movies, comic books and videogames do. This is where deplatformers have essentially unchecked power to censor things they don't like.

politics aren't real

rebublicucks btfooo

net neutrality isn't such a bad thing, it just means ISPs can't give special treatment to certain services (the "Netflix fast lane", for example)
"Net Neutrality" has nothing to do with that, though

its something that almost never gets mentioned, but theres a case (not a particularly good one) to be made that internet==soma that just pacifies the public with netflix and porn into sonmambulence and passive acceptance of shit, and it would probably be better in the long run for the internet to get shitted up with paid prioritization and cable tv like packages of permitted sites in the short term

God damn motherfucking unapologetic socialists with your price fixing can't keep your fucking hands out of the market, can you?
>mfw companies just change their policies to instead of offering a "unfiltered" service, offer "editorialized services", and suddenly net neutrality doesn't apply to them.

Good news. I am rather surprised there are 47 votes in favor of killing net neutrality!

You're on both sides of being a fucking dumbass, idiot.

You stupid piece of shit. You are begging for a world of totalitarian control where anybody who steps out of line will be btfo. You will be one of the first ones to get said btfo-ified. I look forward to it.

It's the politics of resentment, it attracts people who have a grudge against the world.

I just had an epiphany

>Racism and xenophobia are rampant

Compared to what place, and what era? As someone who always felt left leaning most of my life until recently, I have to worry about the path we're on. Who would have thought we'd live in a world where the 'cyberpunk rebels' fighting for free thought and speech would be the right. Then again, the older I get, the more I think bands I used to listen to (Crass, Flux of Pink Indians, Discharge, etc.) were all much more right leaning libertarians than 'socialist anarchists' as is the popular meme. "Bloody Revolutions" is a perfect example. Now you get to be the big man with the tommy gun, shooting subhumans against the wall. Enjoy it while it lasts.

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Do you think enthusiasm for rape, drugs and terror is universal enough to create a united front against fascism?

Wow I never realized Jow Forums was actually this retarded.

I guess pretty much no one here is actually knows anything about the tech industry or aspires make something people actually use. I guess that makes it easier to gobble up everything the right squirts out at you, huh?

Bad. It stifles competition and doesn't allow customization of internet plans to suit a customer's needs. It allows the government overarching control over your daily lives, such as unprecedented freedom to spy on you. And it creates a ton of stress on internet providers because they have to spend millions making sure that every single website is accessible at "equal" speeds when really nobody cares about it. Removing NN is going to get rid of government interference with citizens' everyday lives, and it'll allow the internet to grow and prosper faster than ever before. The internet was just fine without NN for what, 20 years, and now we're just going back to the way things were.

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>implying it will pass a Senate vote
My sides

Republican party is the Israel supporting party.

>replying seriously to this sublimely crafted satire
cringe

Guess I'll start calling out the retards.

You have no idea what the FCC actually did in 2015, do you? ISPs were prohibited from doing three things: blocking, throttling, and paid prioritization, not "making sure that every single website is accessible at 'equal' speeds." They were explicitly allowed to have differences in speed due to infrastructure.

You know what actually "stifles competition"? ISPs fast-laning their own streaming services while throttling or extorting competitors. Verizon was literally throttling Netflix until they paid millions before net neutrality was fully established. Without net neutrality, a regional monopoly ISP could just block competitors' sites.

Both parties are the Israel supporting parties

I really do not get it. How the fuck did 95% of the Americans on reddit and half the fucks here pass the fourth fucking grade.
Why are they celebrating? If you actually paid attention to your mandated social studies class in any of the 12 fucking years you were in public school you would know this achieved nothing and is about to get thrown in the trash by the house. It will never see the presidents desk. Nothing has been achieved short of a list of names of people who voted for and against it which we already knew months ago since we've been dragging this shit through the mud for years now. Every politicians stance on this has been clear so all of this was for absolutely naught other than meaningless political posturing.

This shit is why we should have never gave out participation trophies.

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I wonder if the anti-NN shills here realize that ISPs can start outright blocking their Hitler hugbox sites if we actually lose NN.

>Your local government grants an ISP a regional monopoly
>That ISP blocks your favorite nazi sites
>"A-at least we're the party of muh f-free speech"

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The Reddit free market lives to see another day, but I remain confident that based Comcast while come out on top in the end.

Best post ITT so far
Also
>wanting the government to further regulate the market
You deserve mind police

>replying seriously to this sublimely crafted satire
cringe

>implying that would do good for the ISP's business when arguably half the US population is in favor of a lmaonazi president

Jow Forumstards btfo once again.

In a competitive market, net neutrality happens automatically because people always go to the ISP where they can do piracy the easiest.
But america don't have a competitive market, thus need retarded crutches to not crumble completely like this one.
A truly good politican that knew what was good to the country would most likely pass a law that separates the cable laying companies from the internet selling companies, so the city hires the company to lay the cable, then allows several companies to use the cable and compete with each other for the consumers, which would lead in the end at faster speeds, net neutrality and less overall censorship, all thanks mostly to piracy.

Heh. But actually, all this actual nazi shit is ridiculously unpopular, which is why advertisers are avoiding it like the plague. That's why we got youtube's new demonetizations,etc.

May sound like a surprise, but Trump is not actually a nazi supporter.
Having a nazi that claims support to you don't make you a nazi supporter unless you actually claim support to him as well.
Otherwise the nazis would be claiming support to everything they hate just to bring everything down.

But my corporate regulation! This is not the way it was supposed to go! I already paid for Comcast's National Revolution Package™ that'll unlock all my favorite alt-right websites!

I don't really care about net neutrality. Its two opposing forces trying to jew each other in the name of who deserves to pay.

What americans really should care about is the utter state of their service providers raping them and the inability for any competition to be born due to them owning the land their lines are buried in due to horrible practices.
Fucking even google gave up on trying to lay wire due to legal nightmare.
t. nigger who has no choice but to pay comcast 120 dollars a month for absolute dog shit speed net. But its totally okay because technically I have the ability to pay some no name company for 2mbs dsl for 90 dollars a month. But yes reddit keep fighting to save netflix their hard earned shekels

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That's the most palatable pro-NN argument for free market zealots, but I don't think even a competitive market would see true net neutrality. Most people don't care about things they should, just look at voter turnouts, etc., so blocking or throttling a site here and there probably wouldn't make a difference to an ISP's business, even in a competitive market.

There's also the situation where competing ISPs all hate a site for some reason (e.g., extremist views), and decide to censor it together. It gets creepy.

right wing opinions are one thing.

but the right wing fake news machine should be banned. i mean the lies and the propaganda that comes out of that shithole is massive.

This. Did you know Russia hacked the election?

using a picture and then adding text to it to make it look like a left wing thing is the /pol way of doing things.

this is why the rightwing double digit IQ spam machine needs to die off.

>right wing fake news machine
>>>/reddit/

Yeah I was trying to say most Trump supporters aren't nazis, but the right wing of this site is nazi af.

People here cry over The Daily Stormer getting banned from domain registrars without realizing ISPs will outright block these sites if net neutrality dies.

It's a bit harder because they can't block things like VPN when there's competition but indeed its not perfect.

>without realizing ISPs will outright block these sites if net neutrality dies.

Right wing sites have been accessible over the internet since the 90's. Only until recently it's been tech companies, not ISP's, that have been banning them.

Banning just swipe shit to under the carpet, where it grows unopposed.
The only way to defeat fake news its with true news, as in report everything and don't politicize shit.
Those nazi propaganda things generally thrive off sprinkling truths that the left wing media don't want to touch all over their propaganda.
Every time CNN lies or omits, 100 new nazis are created.

>government wants to censor me
Versus
>ISP wants to bleed me dry

It's like choosing between a windows computer and a mac. Might as well load a bullet into the chamber and offload it into cerebral station while I'm at it.

ancaps wont like it, but i think the better solution would be to require big isps to lease cable acess (at some determined "fair" market rate) to competitors (overbuilding is otherwise an insurmountable problem that keeps isp from entering a market).
this probably wont happen, ever, but what could be done immediately is to require similar open leasing wrt cables laid alongside and using public roads/tunnels and infrastructure.
this should be coupled with deregulation of the provisions in many states (not federal government) that outright killed municipal fiber.

Yeah, things change. Tech companies didn't start widespread censorship until recent years, just like ISPs didn't start throttling streaming sites and demanding payments until recent years (which is why the FCC invoked Title II btw).

To think that ISPs won't start blocking sites is way too optimistic given the outrage climate we have now.

I keep seeing this and really don't get it. How is preventing ISPs from censoring the internet an example of "government wants to censor me"?

NN can't prevent that either, dumbass

why should i pay for the manchildren watching video game streams or hollywood propaganda? 70% of internet bandwidth is jewish consumerism sponsored by me not for me

streisand effect.
more censorship = more usage and adoption of anti-censorship technologies