Finding A Job

cs jobs are shit all across the board

enjoy the hell your life has become

I unironically have an HR drone who thinks we should not do technical interviews with diversity candidates because "we need diversity more than competency at this point." I used to scoff at this sort of thing as Jow Forums shilling, but it is definitely real.

how are certs a meme for infosec

You're fine man. Start getting comfortable with Linux. Start learning how to do bug bounties and break shit.

You just need some stuff to show for yourself in addition to the certs and degree

Helpdesk has got to be the easiest position in the US to get a job at above the burger flipper level. Are you showing your power level in the interviews?

>I used to scoff at this sort of thing as Jow Forums shilling, but it is definitely real.

it's literal USA law that non-whites and non-males are preferentially hired, you should have realized this long ago when you first learned what "affirmative action" is

dumb shits that don't know how to use them say that

And how does one "use" a cert?

Trade a cert to a cert trader to get 5 of the item the cert represents

>I'M GETTING MY NETWORK+ AND SECURITY +
Net+ is the only thing that matters, and you aint got it

I know four firms that would give you a job tomorrow in Houston.

I am applying to internships as well, yes. I will take just about anything I can get at this point, I just want to get my foot in the door.
I have a previous background experience doing tech support in a call center type setting.
I wasn't really interested in obtaining a degree and still have my doubts, but I feel like I have no options left at this point because of its prevalence as an HR filter.
Thank you for the advice.
I enjoy the pain
I'm an amerimutt with a convincing last name, but I definitely check out as a 100% typical huwhite male in person.
Thank you. I mess around with Debian now and then, but it's definitely something I need to work on
Probably my autism idk. Do you have any advice?
What if I don't want to work exclusively in Networking? I'm trying to diversify my credentials, but my optimistic goal is something like sys admin if I don't kill myself before then

>it's literal USA law that non-whites and non-males are preferentially hired, you should have realized this long ago when you first learned what "affirmative action" is

Do you actually believe this?

Enjoy being in the reserve army of labor.

>What if I don't want to work exclusively in Networking
Because that's what the majority of "general IT" jobs are, figuring out why the internet stopped working

Why didn't you just get a CS degree? Was the math and physics too scary for you or something?

Robert Half? Apex?
If you're serious pls respond

you should have gotten an internship at the end of your degree

Not him but yes it is true. However anyone who crys/complains they can't get a job because they're white really should kill themselves

No even better, my gay roomate's bunker. $12/hr and free knee pads but only for A+ certified techs

come on op you and i both know A+ is a meme and is only going to get you a job with other bottom feeders, niggers get A+ daily. work harder, i am in my second semester and have A+ and have network+ and sec+ scheduled for next month. what did you do with all your time? the absolute state of white middle class college educated men..

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I graduated with mediocre grades from a mediocre college and failed my Network+. Have good paying job as a "Network Engineer". Has nothing to do with what you have on paper and everything to do with how you present yourself and your personality. You learn everything on the job. Start getting some exercise, shave your neck beard, and stop boasting about your thinkpad.

Did you not pay attention in civics class?

What do you think "affirmative action" is and why do you think you have an EEoC survey when you get a new job?

You don't even need an A+ for Geek Squad. Getting a job is mostly Charisma and Connections.

Technically I believe not hiring diversity applicant is not forbidden. It's just that your company will be barred from public contract if it doesn't meet diversity quotas.

motherfucking grind OP, right now. no one knows exactly what to do but you need to utilize your time better. when i get out in 2020 i'll have the following

IT major, networking administration minor
CCNA, A+, Network+, Security+, Linux+ LPCI, homelab simulated retail setup atm with routing/switching/vpn/pfsense

these are just my main goals, have to fill the time in between with other research and projects then an internship. if i still fail like you then it wasnt my fault and we missed the boat

After doing some reading after my last post, I also wanted to add that I did have a lot of projects under my belt. My resume before IT was basically useless jobs, so I filled it with info on big interesting projects I did in college. And thinking about it, when I was interviewing I was constantly questioned on my projects, they really liked that shit. I guess them forcing me to do a project for w/e class was the only benefit I got from school though.

>> "I literally just want a help desk position or entry level technician job"
>> "somebody please help me

why the fuck would you expect somebody to help you when you can't even help yourself? How are you supposed to function as helpdesk when you seem so desperate?

work on yourself and stop being a little whiny shit.

Not OP but in a similar boat -

I'm 18 and work front desk (I answer phone calls and play EVE all day) full time. My only options for education are certs and community college. My CC offers associates in cybersecurity, associates in compsci, and associates in system and network administration.

Which degree + certs should I get in the next two years that will land me on the path to a network / sysadmin role, or at least land me something paying more than my current $12/hr gig?

What sort of projects should I be doing?

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No certs just learn on your own and do projects to proof it.

Why the fuck would you get n+ and ccna? That's a huge waste of time

what did he mean by this?

>Guys why am I forced to work in a mine all day, and what are those smokestacks where the old people go?
>Wow, that's a conspiracy theory, you actually believe we are being genocided? Wow, just go back to work, and if you work hard everything will be fine
Christians be like this right now

Jow Forums is always right

A+ is the the GED of the tech world
It might even be worse than a GED...who the fuck needs to know about ISA slots in currentyear?

They overlap to where I’ll feel more confident to take the CCNA months later. Something people may not know is Comptia Certification’s cost 50-70% less for students so while it may seem dumb to you, the extra $120 to make me even a bit more confident in the higher level exam is a small price to pay for me.

Although the CCENT/CCNA is that same price, it just helps me stay motivated to accomplish smaller goals and work my way up to the relative final bosses in my field. I don’t like to brain dump, I want to be 100% confident so no one can ever call me out on being full of shit or not knowing something.

Grades, degrees and certificates are worthless if you are too autistic to do a proper interview, even worse when you have no real experience.

>them non-white be kaypin us dawhn bruthA

Here

I don’t know how to get that experience. I worked 2 years doing tech support which I call help desk so at least it’s something to pad me out while I stack up these stupid meme certs. Working on starting a business on the side too for webdev/de facto sysadmin and manager of that “business” to have as experience when I get out too. Most people literally don’t do anything besides go to class and learn deprecated information and sit around all summer. Just trying to make it brother.

Thank you for for going down this road, so that I won't make the same mistakes you did.

Literally just wait until the holiday season when they're slammed and don't be shit, you can stay on after that.

>Go on craigslist
>apply for every single position in sofftware and systems/networking categories by copy+pasting generic cover letter + resume.
>spend 2 hours doing this sunday night
>~12people call you monday
>go to interviews
>get two job offers.

This strategy has worked for me and others every time.

fake y gay

uhh, start your won business ?

Why don't poor people just make money?

>>certs are all multiple choice garbage
kek

>making things for other people and selling them is impossible
you don't know how economy works do ya ?
unless of course OP lives in shithole full of socialism and can't open business because law is fucked

with net+ and sec+ you can get at big 4 audit firm

>I know you can't pay rent, but if you just rented out a store place, machines, furniture and did some advertising you totally could make some cash

That explains the amount of tranny degeneracies. They all want a job, and the easiest way to force it would be to be a weirdo, when they refuse to hire you just scream "racism!" or whatever bullshit they use

american mongoloids please leave
making small apps/looking for bugs in existing apps and testing them doesn't fucking requaire a luxury apartment

Try becoming gay and try again.
>implying you are not already.

i mean, /programming/ requires almost no addition material capital outside of your own brain. if you use them, and can prove that you can indeed use them, you will definitely get hired.

the most important thing is to probably look at your local market, or your target market, and see what kind of hipster lang its using, then have a project using that, then you will get hired as an intern or some stupid shit

bros, what are the best things to have on your resume for general tech jobs, besides internships? Is there a secret gold mine of project ideas that employers will give a shit about

Maybe no one wants to work with you. Kinda like back when you were in highschool, you had no friends.

Listen to

You don't even do physics in CS and the math is baby mode

also wondering this, I have no projects or internships on my resume at the moment, just the languages I know, my CS degree, and irrelevant job experience to show I at least had a job during uni, even though it had nothing to do with CS

I don't really know what job I want or should be looking for, I already got reject for one entry level dev job that required no experience, so what the fuck am I supposed to apply for

>CS
>math and physics
Yeah no. Try and get a math or physics degree and then you'll know real hell.

>I already got rejected for one entry level dev job
Bro, what the fuck do you expect? To land your first job? Go fuck yourself you snowflake faggot.
I swear if you give up because of this none of you deserve to be a developer.

As per your resume:
>Info
>Technologies you know
>Projects/Education
>Work experience

This is the standard. They know that you're applying for a position and you probably have no real experience. Don't feel ashamed, you gotta work through it. Be confident, they like that. But know your shit at least.

Speaking of that, don't just include 9999 techs just because you spent 5 hours on it. Target your audience, change your resume to tailor what that company is asking (if you have said skills). If not, apply anyway.

Again, I'm not expecting you to be an expert in ReactJS. But if you include it on your resume you better damn well have something to show for it.

(I'm a self-taught developer who landed my first job on my 5th interview, and it wasn't even entry-level. But I knew my shit.)

To get a good job in IT you have to do a project or something in your spare time. Start hacking and shit and building scripts and a github and eventually someone's gonna want to employ you.

Dare you to put black next time you get a diversity question.

Doesn't work faggot, I'm a black guy and fell for this meme. It held me back for months cause I was checking black in the EE option. Once I stopped choosing to identify I started getting calls. It's pretty ironic affirmative action is pretty affirmative just not in giving jobs.

When applying for jobs about 5 years ago, it was pretty standard sort of shit. Applying now, even for basic shit work (atm I'm just looking for any type of work) I have to fill out diversity pages, whether I'm a refugee, a black, disabled, what gender I "identify" as. It's fucking ridiculous as I'm assuming they filter all the white men out and put all other candidates as some sort of priority hire.

its called personal projects nigger
or contribute to open source projects

Unfortunately they are more than they aren't seemingly.

I'm doing a math degree now, can confirm it's hell. Wish I did CS but swapping to CS now would add a year and a half on to my finish time.

>be me
>australian
>can't get job as huwhite male
>start ticking boxes saying im an abo
>immediately start getting job offers.
Fuck niggers and fuck diversity hiring bullshit.

do they need you to prove that you're abo like you do with the government or do they just take your word for it?

If you learn to program with a math degree you will become a literal god.

I honestly didn't chase those jobs up, fear I'd get busted. I looked into it apparently you need proof and some bullshit signature from an elder in your abo community.

Where do you live? I'm hiring for tier one help desk. Fuck experience, I can teach anyone willing to learn. But can you actually talk to people without being an ass and have a good work ethic?

so I guess it's the same level of documentation the government requires. It would be funny to try it and just use some stolen generation excuse if they asked you about it but then you'd get blacklisted.

It's not that you don't have the needed skills. It's just that you have a shitty personality nobody wants to work with.

This is Jow Forums your on,lower your expectations

Pajeet took your job.

>You don't even do physics
>Math is baby tier
What backwater retard school are you going too? Probably some liberal arts shithole like ASU

Went to a very good tech school. Went for CE so I did do physics and lots of math but the math was all baby mode as well. Calc1-3, diffq, LinAlg, applied statistics, modern algebra. But the CS course required only non calc based physics 1 or chemistry and only went up to calc 2, linalg wasn't even required. They had their own shitty CS focused discrete math courses

I'm an oldfag, changed careers, actually was in IT but got out a while ago. Now looking to do something other than play vidya. Everything's fucking cloud now, I was installing shit on servers. Also I manually tested custom apps but now it's all automated.

Fuck I just like to break things. And kill yakuza.

Since when are security degrees a meme?

lurk moar

Also the cutting-edge security companies aren't hiring people who spent their parent's shekels on learning ten year old technology they could have picked up in two hours on their own.

underrated red pill

>an actual nigger on my chans

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It's not law that you need diversity.
What it is is that companies get cheaper taxes if they reach certain government-pushed ideas (like diversity quoatas or being less wasteful/recycling)
So obviously if you work for Sheklestein LLC they might prefer diversity over competency but any startup or small company worth its salt will hire appropriately

In my interview, what saved me was when my interviewer asked me about "my home lab". I run my own DNS server on a SBC (sounds sexy but it's retard easy, pihole on a rpi) and told him I was looking to save up for a NAS. He started telling me about his current setup and how he loves his NAS and I was in

Aren't Abos similar to the Native Americans in that they were there before getting colonized? If so then yea I'd expect them to get offers not for diversities sake but obligation

I'm in my junior year working toward an IST (Focus in Cyber Security) degree, and I'll be out of here in either one or two years. What I plan on doing, God willing, is work for the government in a low-level position once I graduate; I'd suggest trying to work with them to get your foot in the door. The US government is looking for anyone that knows anything, granted you'll be put in a shitty position with shitty pay, but at least you'll have job security and the opportunity to climb the "corporate" ladder.

I have a master's in CS, and while I did take physics as a sort of elective during my bachelor's (we had to take a cycle of a natural science class), I can assure you that there are no CS classes where physics knowledge would be relevant. Are you thinking of EE or CE?

don't expect to instantly find a job, look for something that is suited to what you know