This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a fine watch, clock, or other timepiece.
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# You sound like you don’t know enough about watches to understand what you’re doing and just trying to build your case on opinions of other anons. I suggest you dip your toes into the lower end of the market, buy a cheaper watch, read up, see what you like and what you don’t, then maybe try out a couple more watches while researching what interests you. In a couple of years you will have your own fully formed taste. But if you just want to get a decent watch for 5k then Omega is nowhere near the worst choices. I’d still go for a used polar Explorer though
Actually, I hadn't thought of that. You might want to get a cheap Seiko automatic, cheap microbrand Miyota, or an Orient and see if you even care about the watch being automatic or even in house or not. Because if all you want is quartz then you cap out on the likes of The Citizen, Credor, Grand Seiko, Omega X-33, Longines VHP, Certina DS 2, then divers like the Seiko Marinemaster and Sinn U1.
>Jaeger LeCoultre's entry level models I like this brand and their designs. But the store I would likely buy from take 7000 for this model right here with black or white dial, which is the cheapest they sell. I mean, that is too expensive, and it's also very dull in design/finish compared to what I'd expect when I pay 7000. What other models do you speak of that are cheaper than this?
I've had cheaper 400-watches and expensive 4000-watches my whole life, but I haven't really had a nerdy interest for watches until recently when I started considering buying some own watches with my own money. I haven't been thinking about these things a lot before, but now I do care about it all the sudden, eventho I'm not particularly knowledgable about it. It's kind of new for me to pay this much thought into watches. I would buy an explorer if Rolex as a brand didn't incur so much disdain among people here.
Rolex isn't swatch group and makes their own movements. They're pretty good, but some people don't like how "common" they are.
But really, you'll have to be more specific. Quartz or mechanical? What size? Do you like a certain style? How formal? Lume? Because if you already have a couple watches then you should know. Also, post collection
Exactly when it's 16:37:00? As seems simple enough. Thanks.
Matthew Clark
>is not ever going to dive >is worried about it’s water resitance
Call me a madman but the first thing as soon as I opened the package of this watch was to fill up the bathroom sink with water and put it in there for 10 minutes. I probably went full retarded but the watch survived my test, therefore it’s worthy of being in my collection. It reminded me basically of how Spartans raised their children in ancient times.
Alexander Gray
I know. I'm talking about here where I live. Rolex is a big no-no. It's like driving a red ferrari. It's weird, but it's like that. It should be a watch that can go with dress and with everyday style. It should be automatic movement.
This watch is $7200 here where I live. You will ultimately pay 125% here for these things because of taxes, so I always have to look into the used market and that is difficult.
Jeremiah Thomas
Yes. That's how the app knows how fast or slow it is.
>automatic everyday watch Then almost everything works. Just collect pictures of what you like from all the recommendations and we'll tell you which ones aren't shit for the price
Kayden Reyes
Love the 5600
Jack Gomez
Yes, but for starters I want respectable brands to look into (because annoyingly, I do care about that)
Joseph Murphy
*Sinn UX The U1 is automatic. >Is there any other quartz I forgot? G-Shocks and Casio Oceanus. Also every vintage HAQ from Omega/Citizen/Seiko
I imagine the main issue with something like that would be finding replacement gaskets
Lincoln Diaz
Polished Straps Co shark mesh came in. I actually like this one a lot better than the wjean. The wjean tapers from 22mm to 20 and it just doesn't look right to more for a shark mesh to taper.
I get your conundrum, so I'll give you my viewpoints.
You don't buy mechanical watches for their function, quartzes beat the snot out of mechanicals in pretty much every way when it comes to functionality. So you buy them for other reasons, largely emotional, largely influenced by pedigree.
In general, there are three types of pedigree: 1) brand pedigree 2) model pedigree 3) workmanship pedigree
There are very few watch brands that have "perfect" brand pedigree, the two biggest ones being Seiko and Rolex. They've never been bought out, and have profound vertical integration.
There are a bunch of models that have the right model pedigree: Navitimer, Speedmaster, Submariner, Royal Oak, Reverso, ...
There are very few watches that have the workmanship pedigree, only Grand Seiko has this pedigree in the 5k-10k price range.
So the perfect watch would have all three pedigrees, but pretty much nothing in the 5k to 10k price range has all three. Rolex has 1) and 2), while Grand seiko has 1) and 3). These are probably the closest you'll get.
Easton Taylor
You're measuring over a very short period so there's a lot of error in the rate. If you assume your measurements have, say, 0.5s, then the error in the rate is up to 24spd. Still, agree, not a great performer.
Gavin Hernandez
>So you buy them for other reasons, largely emotional, largely influenced by pedigree. mfw
Respectable to /wt/ (some complain about styling): Tudor NOMOS Seiko (and higher end Seiko with a different name like credor) Rolex Damasko Sinn Philipe Dufour Lange and Sohne Many vintages Note that this doesn't make /wt/ the most discerning, just that this is what they post about sometimes.
Respectable to other places: High end swatch and bremont group High end Seiko Most things, depending on whether they emphasize movement or design including swatch groups /wt/ shits on (they treat hamilton like /wt/ treats omega where they argue about "good enough for the price") Vintage Swiss and German Anything in the /wt/ section Any brand with glashutte in the name Christopher Ward Eterna (not really but I have a soft spot for them) Cartier
Respectable to poorfags (and some watch enthusiasts): Casio Underrated vintage Citizen Seiko Most Russian watches including vintage, but they are pretty rough around the edges
So, I'm almost never coming here, but thanks again to the anons who advised me to get the laco osaka. I never wore a watch before and since i got it some months ago it never left my wrist, really the best investment i made since a long time
I forgot some: Frederique Constant (and Alpina) Junghans
Whatever you do don't get TAG Heuer
Austin Lewis
These two are in /wt/-respectable section or in "respectable to other places"-section?
Eli Gutierrez
These posts just go to show that in the minds of even most watch enthusiasts it is the success of the brand's marketing at creating a perception of 'prestige' that mostly determines how that brand is perceived by people, regardless of the underlying fundamentals.
Personally I prefer to judge watches on the basis of the actual physical objects they make rather than than their success at marketing.
>Personally I prefer to judge watches on the basis of the actual physical objects The people who actually run brands like Tudor strongly disagree with you.
Juan King
None. Just declare yourself a faggot and you're in
Austin Kelly
>didn't include zenith or bulova last thread fag
Wyatt Sanchez
That's really rude. Definitely not gonna be a brandfag like you in the future.
Charles Foster
Other places Junghans uses ETA movements (or quartz) and many here do not like the Bauhaus style in general.
Nolan Gutierrez
>marketing influences how people see brands No shit lol.
Adam Gomez
Yes, because the vast majority of consumers in the industry are non-enthusiasts upon whom marketing is much more effective than anything about the actual watch. Even large numbers of supposed watch enthusiasts literally know nothing whatsoever about watches except what they read other people say in forums, so their opinions are largely the product of marketing by proxy.
Unfortunately in any industry the percentage of consumers who care about and select products on the basis of their quality and value rather than their marketing is very low. In the long run, however, the underlying fundamentals do have an effect on brand perception, as Rolex amply demonstrates.
Jaxon Nelson
I own two Casios and they're great, but I'm just not enough of a shitposting faggot to be part of the "Casio Gang"
Cooper Russell
So they want to attract people who know nothing about watches, and repel the people who do know about watches?
No, they want to attract customers out of the much larger segment of low-information potential customers than the much smaller potential pool of high-information potential customers. There simply aren't enough watch nerds to keep these companies in business, we are virtually a rounding error compared to the sales volumes of the large production watchmakers.
Some brands are positioned such that they knowingly throw away any credibility with people who know anything about watches to maximize how much they can overcharge low-information customers (e.g. Panerai, where the fakes are sometimes better finished than the real ones sold for thousands and thousands of dollars).
Carson Bailey
Wow that's ugly
Daniel Ortiz
I have seen a diesel watch like this live just for once. It was on some pajeets wrist.
Nathan Baker
>No Then why are they doing it?
Evan Fisher
Do people actually fake Casios? I can't imagine that being very cost effective.
Eli Taylor
>we want the Diesel watchbuying audience >t. Tudor
