Holy shit, this is insane. Jewgle truly is the most evil company on planet.
>The video was made in late 2016 by Nick Foster, the head of design at X (formerly Google X), and a co-founder of the Near Future Laboratory. The video, shared internally within Google, imagines a future of total data collection, where Google helps nudge users into alignment with their goals, custom-prints personalized devices to collect more data, and even guides the behavior of entire populations to solve global problems like poverty and disease.
>When reached for comment on the video, an X spokesperson provided the following statement to The Verge:
>“We understand if this is disturbing -- it is designed to be.
>custom-prints personalized devices The mark of the beast.
Ayden Foster
Google's response was pretty clever because it's obviously damage control. "This isn't what we're doing, but wouldn't it be creepy if it were?" Give me a break, this is the company that came up with Glass and only withdrew it because of the public's privacy concerns. This absolutely is where they see their company in 10 years. People aren't ready for it today, but as privacy is slowly eroded it will definitely come to the point where it's accepted.
Oliver Powell
lmao
Brandon Price
Money speaks harder in board meeting than morals boi
David Barnes
(((THEVERGE)))
Matthew Phillips
>People aren't ready for it today Except all the people plugged into mobile phones 24/7 who are already providing the needed data.
Eli Gomez
Any search engine is inherently collecting your information, so the only way to be safe is using your own search engine Unfortunately YaCy is shit so I use Ecosia, they plant trees or at least pretend to
I have the impression that this type of thing is already happening. Advertising itself is the primitive form of the content of this video, and that is already turned up to 11 except as far as I know nobody advertises things solely for the benefit of some 'ledger' but instead because it makes you wealthy.
I have never been so spooped in my life. This a weird eugenics based form of transhumanism.
Owen Kelly
the idiocy is when people think any unique technology is needed to do this type of data collection as a regular person.
Gavin Sanchez
I don't see what's the big deal.
Michael Morales
They are going to take every action made from every person and make judgement on everything they do. That is crazy.
Somehow they are going to need to put a mask on the data so that people won't see "Google knows Blacks steal bikes at a 33% bigger rate than Whites" and then sue.
They are going to say "ERROR: you should have went to college for Finance not Art History" or what could be admittedly dope is for it to say "Currently, a job shortage is detected in Robotics. Your IQ is borderline high enough to succeed in this field." This would virtually remove people getting wasted degrees.
This also could be extrapolated toward other debts. Like "do not buy that boat or you will live in poverty"
Its likelier that you will have happiness with this woman. Marry her.
Then the "suggestions" get ever more invasive and creepy. "This woman will cum in reverse cowgirl, please get off her and flip her up" or "your fingers are too stubby for guitar, you must quit now"
Then it gets on some GATTACA shit where people get harassment for not living their lives "properly" and Google can also let you know about other peoples lives.
Cooper Morris
So basically Futurama with predetermined jobs?
Gavin Taylor
Oh fuck, they know my user agent AND my IP? How could they obtain such closely guarded info?
Isaac Ward
searx.me
Cooper Mitchell
Duckduckgo barely fucking works, most of the results are irrelevant as fuck
Dominic Powell
Even google is not the final boss. The almighty dollar itself is, emissary of the economy. Suprahuman organizational structures will collect information about you and learn your preferences; with enough information about you they can predict and cater to your tastes; and if someone can predict your actions, they can manipulate you accordingly — this insight into how the future will unfold has been known for years: have a go at a conspiracy classic: (syti.net/GB/SilentWeaponsGB.html)
And remember, whether or not the document is authentic is irrelevant. What matters is how true the ideas presented within are to reality.
More like fuck fuck no. Only a dipshit uses mainstream search engines like that. In fact fuck uh computer, I hate all computers. Fuck all of them, every smartphone laptop Apple iShit whatever the fuck it is fuck internet fuck you
Jacob Gomez
hahahahahha
Colton Taylor
>click this link >24 different js files try to load from 9 different domains including google, linkedin, facebook, and amazon >page won't even display text without the js oh the irony
you'd best be laughing at pic and not link, fagoot
Isaac Lewis
Honestly the idea of recording and studying the astronomical amount of data our society creates for the betterment of the world sounds good on paper, but there's no organization, government or corporate, that I trust with that power.
Daniel Stewart
not sure why you need some sort of secret internal video when their intentions have been made perfectly clear to the public during Google I/O in the past couple of years.
i tried. i realised Google search algorithms are extremely useful when searching for content/context, as in, it understands what i'm looking for. searX gives me irrelevant matches as long as some of the keywords match exactly. as it stands, it is unusable to me.
Carter Kelly
Oh shit, DDG decrypts my HTTP request when they receive it? They can do whatever they want with it then!
Lucas Richardson
Unironically ∆lex √ones has been talking about this for years.
Aaron Rogers
If you can predict the future, you can control the future. They are one and the same.
Gabriel Ramirez
idk man I've never had any trouble with searx. what exactly are you googling? The only time i switch to google is if I'm trying to find streams of really obscure things or full HD porn rips
Yeah but to be fair that shill talks about literally everything – even a broken clock is right twice a day
Luke Hill
The majority of Jow Forums users live boring insignificant lives, I don't understand why you think your porn preferences are of importance to anyone but yourselves.
All data collecting is targeting exclusively active and functional members of society, who can actually provide significant information.
Samuel Torres
What's so spooky about this? It's literally just another /x/ tier conspiration. The whole "scientific" basis is pure mumbo jumbo. Anyone in the science field will corroborate this. Moreover, this shit doesn't take into account the fact that the percentage of people that uses or is subject to the Big Brother of the botnet is probably far less than what you think it is. Have you considered the amount of people who work the fields and don't buy the stupid shit they sell to *you*? Fuck off with this bullshit. Even if it is as bad as you are making it to be, then it's completely irrelevant for me and it should be irrelevant for you aswell. It won't make any difference. You'll still die. I still try to get in their way and have them collect as little data about me as possible though.
Alexander Cox
Lol what is this 1999
Kevin Peterson
+3 shekels have been deposited into your account
Kevin Perez
The Best System is almost ready.
Justin Edwards
you don't get how this works, do you? data mining is not akin to spying on high profile individuals. it's quantitative data, which is about absolutely everyone, allowing Google to establish and make use of patterns between the clothes you buy, the countries you travel to AND your porn preferences. qualitative data (or spying on an individual), which is what you're describing, is more of an NSA game.
Asher Hill
Ad targeting is future prediction.
Ads are nudges in a direction.
Competence in advertising is future modification.
Lincoln Gutierrez
Ad targeting is future forming.
ftfy
Easton Carter
it just needs to be framed as rebellious to install google scanners in every room of your house, in the same way that endorsing total censorship is rebellious right now.
Evan Cox
Why. You're talking out your ass.
>Google finds no value in each individual's unique sequence of behaviors! the post
Noah Morgan
>taking people so stupid and annoying they were thrown off of Jow Forums seriously
Carter Rivera
thanks, however, i was merely looking for an explanation for the use of the word "unironically" in the given context
Adrian Harris
Ad targeting is the prediction of susceptible audiences as small as one person.
I mean targeting to be identifying susceptible audiences.
The act of forming the future comes next with crafting the message.
Ryder Hughes
not what i said at all. my point was that no individual's unique sequence of behaviours is more valuable than any other individual's unique sequence of behaviours, and that the value of these behaviours only comes from having established repeating patterns within a huge number of individuals.
Julian White
Unless you're living in 3rd world shithole and never leave your house, you're being watched 24/7 by security cameras.
Almost everything you do is being or can be tracked - your purchase history, your phone calls, your medical records, your grades, everything that involves technology.
Thinking you're off the grid just because you followed a guide on Jow Forums to install firefox and basic extensions with duckduckgo set as your default search engine is borderline autistic.
Just live and enjoy your life.
Camden Harris
no he's perfectly right, that mass-scale quantitative data gathering is in a sense far more frightening than qualitative gathering. People like to imagine that they re unique actors who maintain a coherent and rationally-examined set of beliefs about the world. This just isn't true. Beliefs tend to come in packages. If they know x and y about you, then they can also tell z. Things as innocuous as shopping preferences, age, and gender can tell those with massive learning farms incredibly personal details about beliefs, habits, and so on. It's fair to say that at this point, Google knows more about many people than they know of themselves. Now maybe you don't give a shit. Maybe you don't understand that if someone can predict your actions, they can manipulate those, as easy as pulling a string. Maybe you don't see anything wrong with living in a sterile 'utopian' hellhole devoid of mental liberty. But there's a far more down to earth example of why all this large scale behavioral/belief data gathering/learning is such a threat: jury selection. Most don't know that lawyers are already doing this. When they interview jurors they ask them seemingly innocent questions, when in reality they're fitting them into models. They can effectively rig any jury they want now, and there's nothing really that can be done about it. Pandoras box can't be closed
>guides the behavior of entire populations R A C E M I X G O Y
Michael Bailey
>what exactly are you googling with SearX oh u. one out of many cases where it failed me, was when i was looking for a date of a particular mini-festival, typing in the name of one of the bands playing and the name of the festival. i was given everything but the information i was actually looking for. about 70% of the results on the first page had nothing to do with the festival or the band, but were instead unrelated articles where the same words were used. meanwhile, the same search string in Google gave me exactly what I needed in the top results.
another example was me doing an image search with band name and album name (which is also known for its iconic cover art) as keywords. this query could only possibly refer to two things: 1. the musical album itself, the title track, the footage of either being performed 2. the album cover art in form of print, drawing, merchandise, etc
once again, SearX simply put the three words together and the results were mostly irrelevant. Google, on the other hand, knew that by typing in this query I couldn't possibly be looking for anything that's not related to the band, their music, or their artwork, and naturally the Google image search was filled with nothing but that.
i may be spoiled, but i'm not willing to not use the one search engine which actually works because of "muh botnet" just so i can waste my time wrestling another, just to eventually go back to Google.
Innovation require data to work with. AI wouldn't have reached this far if not for data collected by google.
Gabriel Perry
Never.
Jason Jenkins
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Zachary Hughes
I don't speak Communist, user
Brody White
The picture is hilarious. The document is believable. Like the document said, on a large scale abstracted away from the small cogs it can be done systematically. Per household we can now see AI emerging that studies our behaviours since there are too many variables.
I can totally see this happening in USA.
Benjamin Mitchell
they're too big in the sense that they're so tightly integrated with how our societies and economies function, that breaking them down will have adverse effects on many aspects of our lives. kaczynski was right. the more we delay breaking away from this system, the more power and control the system accumulates, the more devastating it will become.
Aiden Smith
the saddest thing of all, is that it takes a clickbait article such as this for people to "react". of course, just like any reaction to clickbait sheep culture, it is defined by the initial social media "outrage", "HEY GUYS WE ARE SO ANGRY AREN'T WE AMIRITE HAHA", followed by an unrelated clickbait article featuring "the new cool thing to be angry about", ultimately resulting in endless streams of contained outbursts over absolutely anything but with no constructive action.
nothing in that video or article is new to me. Google themselves make it quite clear in their I/O events that they want complete control over all aspects of your life and you welcome it with open arms because of "convenience".
No idea what you're talking about. I hope you realise that "thinking sheeple" is an oxymoron.
Benjamin Butler
>CuckCuckGo Qwant.com
Grayson Harris
>Talk about tile cutters for the first time ever with my friend >suddenly ads for tile cutters and home depot shit pop up everywhere from phone to laptop
How is this a surprise to anyone? They've been spying on and making a profile of you forever.
If I'm blocking ads, does that mean that they're not spying or just that I can't see the results of their spying?
Brayden Long
see it's far from a surprise to those who actually care, while the rest just seek gratification for joining in on collective social media outrage
Jack Myers
if we're talking about Google, you have to take many more things into account. do you use Google Search? Chrome? Android? Google Maps? Gmail? YouTube? if the answer is yes to any of the above, then they have a profile on you. the more sources they have, the more valuable the information, as it helps in establishing behavioural patterns where you may not expect them.
short answer is, the result of data collection goes far beyond what you can see - ads. the real purposes of data mining are far more intricate, including behavioural prediction & conditioning.
