Wm

yeah to watch youtube

you don't need X for fullscreen opengl context

Minimalism is a meme

ST might have less lines of code but it's still slower than urxvt

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>stick with defaults on any mainstream distribution
>emacs fills my screen while I work anyway
>everything just works
>troubeshooting, when necessary, is a breeze as there are far fewer potential areas of issue
I sure hope you don't fall for the minimalism/rice memes user.

>how can you get more minimal?
lose weight
anything over 23 bmi is bloat

>using WM
>using GUI
>not using TTY
at least you tried

YOU LITERALLY HAVE FUCKING XORG INSTALLED FAGOTTTTTTTTT

faggot you use discord.
shut the fuck up

sorry I have people I talk to?

WHO ARE THOSE PEOPLE?
HMMM????? RANDOM FAGGOTS FROM NORTH AMERICA AND EUROPE?

wew, is this nu-Jow Forums? I know it's bait or infant ironically but this triggers my autism

What doea nu mean faggot?
Gosh i miss 2007 Jow Forums

>dwm
>st
Why do suckless retards think that config.h is a good idea?

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Hey retard.
Whats a better alternative? Tell me so i can make fun of you

>not using a OS entire in assembly
faggots

the compiled program doesn't parse config on runtime which makes it faster

Literally anything else. Anything that lets you update the package normally from your package manager.

>$ cp config.def.h config.h
>not $ make config.h

im all for trimming down software where possible but you faggots really take it to an autismical, impractical extreme

sigh
retards everywhere

>$ cp config.def.h config.h
> sudo nano config.h
>edit dwm stuff
>ctrl+o
>enter
>sudo su
>make clean install

done

thats this guy

>$ make config.h
># vim config.h
>edit dwm stuff
>:w
># make clean install
done

you don't want an original copy of config.h if you fuck up?

from Makefile:
config.h:
@echo creating $@ from config.def.h
@cp config.def.h $@

/* See LICENSE file for copyright and license details. */

/* appearance */
static const unsigned int borderpx = 1; /* border pixel of windows */
static const unsigned int snap = 32; /* snap pixel */
static const int showbar = 1; /* 0 means no bar */
static const int topbar = 1; /* 0 means bottom bar */
static const char *fonts[] = { "monospace:size=10" };
static const char dmenufont[] = "monospace:size=10";
static const char col_gray1[] = "#222222";
static const char col_gray2[] = "#444444";
static const char col_gray3[] = "#bbbbbb";
static const char col_gray4[] = "#eeeeee";
static const char col_cyan[] = "#005577";
static const char *colors[][3] = {
/* fg bg border */
[SchemeNorm] = { col_gray3, col_gray1, col_gray2 },
[SchemeSel] = { col_gray4, col_cyan, col_cyan },
};

/* tagging */
static const char *tags[] = { "1", "2", "3", "4", "5", "6", "7", "8", "9" };

>wm
tmux
>terminal
tty
>shell
sh

suckless programs suck(less than not using a computer at all)

>follow anons commands
or
>follow debian wiki
fuck off>>

>sh
fucking redpill me on sh
is it even faster than dash???
i thought dash was the smallest or something

config.h target inside Makefile exists for a reason

/bin/sh is symlinked to /bin/bash on linux
on BSD it's just ksh
dash itself is just modified version of ksh flavour, pdksh if I'm not mistaken

>Modern Debian and Ubuntu systems, which symlink sh to dash by default;

didn't know this

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It's suckless. Suckless people think a computer is meant to be used only by programmers from the 80s and only for writing more suckless software.
I especially love the "configuring via the source code" part because it completely misses the point of Unix as a multi-user system, by offering two options, both of which are fucking stupid:
>requiring administrator permissions to change your fucking font size in a terminal
>requiring trusting random executables made by the user
But then again, for all the wanking over the old school and the UNIX WAY, suckless users never actually used a computer in a multi-user scenario. A suckless program is worthless beyond producing shitposts and ~minimalist~ screenshots on a fat ThinkPad by an even fatter neckbeard in some basement in some part of America or former Yugoslavia.

There is a reason that you never actually see a successful developer's PRIMARY machine running anything besides Mac OS, Windows, or some mainstream Linux, usually with something like GNOME or XFCE. It's because these people actually use a computer to do something. Sure, you can fuck with command line utilities to connect to the internet and save a whooping 0.4 GB of RAM by running everything in a TTY. Or you can do that without having to even think about it, and focus on the shit you need to get done. You can even have a computer that you do not need to have programming knowledge to operate, imagine that!

Now, people might complain about normalfags ruining computing. They wouldn't even entirely be wrong, as there definitely are ways in which computing became worse that can be attributed to that - but these changes are reversible. But they're not interested in that. The truth is, pick at their statements a little more, and you will find an utter rejection of the modern world. A kind of digital Amish - though, even the Amish actually evaluate new tech to see if it improves their lives. But the suckless user just isolates themselves from everything.

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>tl;dr: reddit > Jow Forums
ftfy

>There is a reason that you never actually see a successful developer's PRIMARY machine running anything besides Mac OS, Windows, or some mainstream Linux, usually with something like GNOME or XFCE. It

the suckless founder (pic related chad)
works for amazon and uses dwm bitch.
he makes 6 figures, makes white babies and maintains the suckless projects.

configuring dwm isn't hard, just fucking look

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I agree with most of your points but disagree on the multi-user argument. There is an easily accessible .Xresources patch for st which would make per-user configuration easy. I’m not sure about this with other suckless software because I only care about st.

Suckless is about having a simple and minimal starting codebase to then tailor to your specific needs.

Arguably it is an ideological standpoint as internet and processing power have progressed to the point developers can ship bloated programs. It’s a return to traditional computing values focused around ease of development and purpose-built binaries.

The same points stand for Gentoo - just because it doesn’t matter to you or most people doesn’t mean it has no place.

>ftfy
you can call me for using >>>/reddit/ before, but ftfy is only used there and not here
fucking closetplebbitor

I mean, this wall of text can be replaced with "tl;dr: reddit > Jow Forums" or even better "tl;dr: normies > neets"

that's gay

that's why I told this to you

Linux cuck

mplayer -vo fbdev

take my comfy dwm colors:

static const char normbordercolor[] = "#291916";
static const char normbgcolor[] = "#0f0908";
static const char normfgcolor[] = "#bf472c";
static const char selbordercolor[] = "#a67458";
static const char selbgcolor[] = "#291916";
static const char selfgcolor[] = "#d47d49";

not gonna try out that colors
show some screenshot

here you go

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and both are shit when it comes to input latency

lwn.net/Articles/751763/

mlterm master race

pic related

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Oh nice you found a single counterexample. Also its pretty well know that top talent does not go to amazon kek. Ricing is for kids.

a nice attempt at fitting in, pajeet.

i having ubuntu with i3, so I get the best of both worlds. I get a minimalist (actually fucking minimalist and practical, not riced to shit) desktop that actually makes a big performance difference on my old laptop and allows me to be productive with keyboard shortcuts AND shitty gnome tools and the entire gnome desktop as a fallback if i really need to use it.

prove it
time seq 5000000

nigger

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printing out a loop is not input latency

I know it isn't. tell that to

kek fpbp

remember folks, this is what your average suckless faggot looks like
Install KDE. Make your parents proud.

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not comfy at all
lol

so which is the fastest and the minimalist terminal out there in gnu/linux and unix

faggots suck more
straight white males suckless
fuckkkk offf

tty

xterm or mlterm

reminder that this graph is on debian with i3.

gnome alone adds at least ~25ms to everything

I dislike having more than 1 DE/WM installed at once, am I really expected to fucking do all this in a TTY?

show the keyboard shortcut syntax.
Also, can you add autostart programs in there?
Am I really expect to uninstall and compile if I remove a program?
What happens if dwm gets an update in the package manager, is all my rice deleted?

actual minimalism
>only electronic device is a smartphone
Get on my level.

I send electrical currents to my processor by hand.
Anything else is bloated shit

you can modify dwm config while you're running dwm

>using processor at all
Processing everything in my head and writing 0s and 1s by hand to HDD is only correct answer.
Anything else is bloat.

subarashi

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urxvt is the fastest one

running that command takes x20+ longer on xterm or mlterm and twice as long on ST

nah
which is the smallest in fucking size

>normies > neets
this but unironically

>Arguably it is an ideological standpoint as internet and processing power have progressed to the point developers can ship bloated programs. It’s a return to traditional computing values focused around ease of development and purpose-built binaries.
There is a point to their madness, but the actual truth lies somewhere in the middle of the "suckless" to "Node.JS+systemd" spectrum. Yes, modern software has a bloat issues, but that does not mean that everything modern software has brought is worthless. It's like telling people to go ride a horse carriage when asked how to address car emissions.

but I would need to install it from debian's repos, then download the source, then compile it, then remove the repo version with apt, install the riced out version with make, and do this for every update.
Not to mention I have to manually setup everything with fucking text files like my mouse speed etc, otherwise I end up with a hodgepodge of tools from various DE's, ie. not minimal at all.
Absolute fucking autism. I bet it doesn't even have muh gaps.

>wget suckless.org/dwm.tar.gz
>unpack, configure, compile
>edit xinitrc to point to executable
>

>>wget suckless.org/dwm.tar.gz
>>unpack, configure, compile
>>edit xinitrc to point to executable
>>

what not just make clean install?
>point to executable
what??
>I dislike having more than 1 DE/WM installed at once

then have one??
the fuck. Don't install shit

he's talking about using startx you fucking sperg
Repeating means I have to manually update, fuck that shit.
This isn't 2003, I'm not on slackware anymore having to use an rss feed to check if the programs I use have an update

i know you fag.
just use dwm and shut up fag

Nah, I'll continue using KDE like the heterosexual male that I am.

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>waterfox
just wow.

>seeks minimalism
>still uses a GUI, Xorg-based too.

OP is a faggot.

GKH uses i3 and arch, your argument is invalid

what the fuck am I looking at here?
yeah no, I'd much rather use bspwm or i3 if I'm going down the tiling autismhole

>not using awesomewm

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well you could use a terminal with "minimal" response time, instead of saving a few megabytes of ram becaues of memes

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This. awesomewm is the improved dwm.

try harder, anyway it's pointless to argue about what shell/wm/terminal is smaller when using browser bigger than rest of OS

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