How is Windows telemetry not absolutely BTFO by the GDPR

Crossing my fingers that Ataribox launches well and that Steam/Valve finally makes Linux and SteamOS exclusives.

>industry specific software
There's plenty. It's not even an issue.

Generally windows has better power management over linux which is important for laptops. Though I haven't used laptops in ages and now we have amdgpu so things may have changed.

>windows has better power management over linux
Having had both systems installed on multiple laptops and computers I disagree with you. Windows usually lasted 30% less than Linux on laptops and consumed more power on desktops.

If you're worried about ms just block all their IPs at network level and manually install updates.
Double check weekly because they often get new IPs.

>just block over 1 million IPs
Might as well never use it on a network capable device, which is far easier.

I expect Windows is better at power management but because there's so much shit running, it ends up worse.

This was out of the box experience. Windows has worse power efficiency overall, comparing CPU-only systems. If you have a dedicated GPU then things change depending on your vendor and drivers.

I wouldn't hoard data if I were using iCloud, too.

Visual studio.

>Not using a VM for your windows developing needs

Come on user, there's no need to have winblows physically installed on your ssd.

Give me a fucking break, why would I do that bullshit?

This. Why would anyone even use VS when it's shit

Hobbyist coders need not reply.

Libreoffice .odt didnt show pictures on a different computer
All formulas from a .docx file git fucked oppening on linux
Even windows libreoffice .odt file opened on linux libreoffice looks different
How i'll always have to have windows at least in a vm to use ms office because no matter how simple word processing should be, libreoffice can't keep it consistent

Exactly. Anyone using Visual Studio is still a college level hobbyist.

Is that what your bootcamp instructor said?

It's available for Linux now, I'd suggest installing it via a snap or flatpak,cuz' something tells me it could become a real bug fest otherwise.

I mean the actual original product, not Code.

You have to be retarded to think there is anything even close to the Adobe ecosystem on Linux.

>adobe is good
What the fuck am I reading?

>Linux doesn't support X
>NO BUT IT SUPPORTS Y AND Z
>But everyone uses X
>YEAH WELL UHHH X TOTALLY SUCKS
Template Jow Forums reaction boys

>formulas
>.docx
Use LaTeX nigga

But I want to use .docx

If only my retarded uni had shown me something like that exists i would have used it
The furthest they got was mathtype

quick reminder that we can't rely on governments or individuals to start those lawsuits. organizations like www.noyb.eu are kickstarting an NGO platform that will drag companies that don't comply to court. sad we have to finance this ourselves, but fuck yeah if this isn't important work.

Install Windows 10 once, update Windows 10 once. Disconnect from the internet. Comfy.
Install Linux distro of choice for shitposting, torrenting, porn, streaming blah, blah, blah. Comfy.
Pajeets and PajeetSoft can't slurp your data or fuck your system. Comfy.

>If you're worried about ms just block all their IPs at network level and manually install updates.

lol no, I'm not worried about them, don't use a single product, but would like to see them crash and burn

either missing the point completely or desperate msidf shills

American here, I just want to take a moment and thank the Eurocucks for doing something right for once.If you weren't aware, you've already started a panic here in the states.Whispering about the demise of the ad based business model has begun, and I sincerely thank you. All I can say is, please, please, please, stick to your guns and sue the ever living shit out any of these fuckers who step out of line.Lawsuits are the only thing these motherfuckers understand.

Not an argument, sweetie.

I'm not using adobe shitware even on windows, retard.
>everyone uses something therefore it's good
Kys

>OS requires you to accept telemetry to work properly
>decline
>everything is buggy as shit because youre trying to run fucking windows LTSB but with another 10GB of shit installed sitting around
Seems good from here

Eurocuck here. I am happy to see that we agree. The fines are going to be particularly interesting since they scale with the size of the company. I'm sure the worms will find away to mitigate them though.

>Up to €20 million, or 4% of the worldwide annual revenue of the prior financial year, whichever is higher, shall be issued for infringements of:

>The basic principles for processing, including conditions for consent, under Articles 5, 6, 7, and 9
>The data subjects’ rights under Articles 12-22
>The transfer of personal data to a recipient in a third country or an international organisation under Articles 44-49
>Any obligations pursuant to Member State law adopted under Chapter IX
>Any non-compliance with an order by a supervisory authority (83.6)

>GDPR
wtf I love Europe now!

>OS requires you to accept telemetry to work properly

specifically forbidden under GDPR, but keep on spreading fud is MS staple

I did say properly, as in with no problems for average idiots
Microsoft IS shit, but keep shilling it

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lol, you are dumb, but keep on repeating it
what you state is specifically forbidden under gdpr, period

>try to fuck with a multi billion dollar company
>they ban you from using their products forever
>continue using their shit pirated
>nothing has changed
>except you now have a black mark for when you want to buy from legally them in the future

Does GDPR not allow companies to work better with data collection the user might disagree with but keep using the program regardless?
So are ALL machine learning algorithms effectively obsolete in the EU?
I honestly cant wait until I leave this shithole and go to Cucknada

ITT, the Muppet Show

>they ban you from using forever
>you now cant buy legally
Well I guess duh
I'd be a lot lot LOT more interested to see what would happen if a company with no branches in the EU just said fuck you to GDPR, and refuse to pay fines
What happens then?

Doing the 1803 update, the OS asked me permission for all telemetry which I declined.

The only two ones which I think could affect your experience is Cortana (don't care, fuck off), and targeted ads (wew lad).

Beats me. The most extreme case I've seen to date is complete cessation of service for EU citizens. The company would simply stop dealing with the EU altogether. kthxbye style.

>except you now have a black mark for when you want to buy from legally them in the future

jokes on them, if they have a black mark on me without consenting they can be fucked, checkm8 joos

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Yeah but like
What if its a company that say, doesnt cease to do whatever it does
Does the EU blacklist it?
Isn't that effectively censorship?

There's nothing wrong with telemetry. Stop overreacting.

They get prosecuted. How is that censorship ? Is it censorship to prosecute people making forgeries ?

This.
You can literally see everything being sent over now with the Data Viewer.

Then again, majority of gamers buy into shitty memes (turn off vsync for ULTIMATE FPS XD, disable half of your system for better input lag, etc).

Can the US prosecute people living in the EU, or Russia for example?
I mean I dont see them doing anything to based Snowden, even if (im certain) what he did was illegal
By no means am I equating the two, im just wondering what could happen to a non-EU company if they did that except from public backlash

>not using Cortana
excuse me

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they must be opt in and informed consent, no blanket terms and no agreeing to tracking if you want to use a service. Only allowed to collect stuff which is required in order to function thus basing a business model on selling PII is a big fucking no as it should be

>So are ALL machine learning algorithms effectively obsolete in the EU?

see above, ML is a meme anyway, especially recommendation systems, they are a joke and shill platform

>actually typing
What is this, fucking 2008?

But it functions without tracking and telemetry that's what im saying all this time
It just so happens that it'll probably crush a lot since im certain that its source code is utter shit and if you disable some parts others will fail more often too

This is what everyone and their mother is currently worrying about. The EU wants a dedicated lawyer team on standby 24/7 to accept everyone's reports and sue the living hell out of the entire world. Delusions of grandeur if you ask me. There is no fucking way it's going to work. Expect response delays up to 18 months or none at all. They're gonna get spammed with complaints and only go after the big companies like Facebook, Microsoft, Google, et. al. It's all a scheme to make money and small fries (< 500 employee companies) don't have the capital to pay those ridiculous fines (20 mil) anyway.

They very much can as far as I know. Even if someone who doesn't cross the borders probably isn't worth the effort of going through the extradition process.

So pretty much this helps monopolies and fucks over smaller businesses as usual, but now "we're against tracking you lmao dont worry we the government definitely dont do it either" so its ok
Man do I fucking hate this world

20 mil or 4% of annual benefits if that's more
>you now realize that based Amazon technically operates in the red at all times so they could get sued for 20 mil, stall for like 18 months, and then pay it, then stall 18 months for the next 20 mil

>it'll probably crush a lot since im certain that its source code is utter shit and if you disable some parts others will fail more often too

aaand that's the fud part, no one should opt in to tracking because of that

in the real world it would be judged on a case by case basis, if intention can be proven like Apple slowing down it shitphones I would say it violates GDPR but we will see

It secures their position in the market.
Smaller businesses will die, and new ones starting will have to adapt to the simple fact that they cannot do what bigger players do.
This imo doesn't mean it's a bad idea, it's kind of overdue, but without any additional systems in place, the bigger players yet again get away with murder.

>4% of annual benefits

revenue, sorry

Oh nevermind then
Again though, Amazon is so big at this point that it practically doesnt matter if they just stop tracking you
Same with google and whoever else

>regulations underpins ethical considerations when handling data
>goblin companies feel targeted

guess you wonder when equifax happens

and that's what people want, it is a win-win, just as GDPR intended

You guys don't get it.
The GDPR makes it so you can sue literally every private website on the entire Internet for logging your IP. All the server configs have to be adjusted.

Screencap the following
In the year of our Lord 2019, when this will clearly be in effect
>people will actually opt in to telemetry because they want to keep using google, youtube, outlook, gmail, whatever
>Jow Forums will still be talking about the botnet even though they actually decided to opt out of all telemetry because the ""necessary"" botnet is still botnet (not that I argue)
>This law will place a fine on approximately 18 companies throughout the entire year, three of them in the fortune list
>Nobody will even remember this by 2020

>everyone wants a monopoly of google Amazon and Microsoft
you're almost not wrong there, actually, but its still sad

>people will actually opt in to telemetry because they want to keep using google, youtube, outlook, gmail, whatever
already happened
>Jow Forums will still be talking about the botnet
because they want to continue using those services + Jow Forums

Fuck im already late?
When did the opting in even start
Ive been away from the internet for 5 days im only now catching up

Started as soon as each company was ready, as they've had quite a while now to get GDPR ready even though it only actually comes into effect later this week.

There are people out there who knowingly infect their computers with Windows 10...

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Hey amerifag the gdpr won't do anything for you loser cucks over there with trump. They will obviously stick to their business model anywhere but not in the EU

It's pretty weird how USA is supposed to be about freedom, but there aren't that many laws protecting you as a citizen.

>using Windows for work
This is literally a useless point here.
Why would you install work related stuff on your home PC? Why would you do personal stuff on your work PC?

Windows is the only system worth using at home sister.
Literally ZERO point using alternatives that just have mediocre home entertainment capabilities and can't even into a fucking PRINTER.

>Electron ""apps""
fuck off

Lul amerifags are too stupid to realize that. But seriously though, let them get fucked in the ass over there and enjoy your life in the EU. Because ultimately these cucks are keeping companies like Google alive because they can do everything they want with amerifag data

Freecad and qcad seem nice. I've used them for small projects at least. Maybe they don't scale well or something

>freedom
>laws protecting you
Do you not understand the irony in suggesting the only way you can have freedom is if it's granted to you by the governing body?

America is still shit though, but damn you fags are on another level of absurdity.

I don't know, I enjoy American history and their cowboy history. It's a shame that America is turning into a mutt shithole with corporations assfucking them. It's just sad. Hopefully America will get rid of their corrupt politicians being owned by large corporations and do something about the mutt problem, it's never too late.

>Do you not understand the irony in suggesting the only way you can have freedom is if it's granted to you by the governing body?
In a world with megacorporations that's unironically the only way you can have any real freedom and still be part of the society.

Wait, people unironically try to defend Mircosoft’s invasive tactics? Or is this paid lobbying?

Retard, there is no freedom if big corporations can basically do anything they want, to make the few people on top richer but at the same time fuck everyone else.
Amerifag intelligence in a nutshell. You retards deserve everything you got

>not understanding freedom or laws
>not understanding freedom from and freedom to
The freedom of life is protected by a law that says "don't kill people". Are you saying this law shouldn't exist and it's existence is anti-freedom?

yikes
double yikes
might want to read over your own inbred comment to recognize just how fucking idiotic it is LOL

Like I totally get you guys are retards, but it's not a difficult concept your two remaining (collective) brain cells should fundamentally understand that someone putting you in a box and tell you that you're only allowed to watch TV != freedom. You could argue the entire world is fucked, but then why would you be advocating for more centralized power? You do recognize there is a third option? IE not electing people who are totally OK centralized power.
Also, not an American. Just not retarded enough to view freedom as a worthless virtue.

ok guys, lets stop making fun of this autist. He can't even defend himself :(

>You do recognize there is a third option? IE not electing people who are totally OK centralized power.
Reducing the power of the state = increasing the power of the corporations. You don't have power, so you're fucked either way, but at least your elected representatives are theoretically on your side(assuming, that is, they're not in the pocket of the said corporations like in the US). There's pretty much no way around that short of burning everything to the ground and starting over.

Lmao, kys

in part yes, other part is their misplaced patriotism probably thanks to drumpf that makes them see it as a US vs EU pissing contest, third part is goblins can't read the OP and/or unable to understand their whining is not welcome here

now the real talk, where and how to contact MS in one week time about stopping their abusive data handling processes?