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Why did you buy the K version?
Jonathan Jackson
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Joshua Adams
Didn't, still rocking an i3 2120
Luis Cruz
Interesting. Hm, the non-K 8700 is only 0-100 Mhz slower than an 8700K without OC. Also, most people don't OC anyway.
Grayson Morgan
>hey guys look at this graph of an unnamed benchmark that doesn't have units
Nathaniel Bailey
Lol age of oc for general use is dying
I haven't had the need to oc my adt two CPUs as the factory boost settings worked 1600x and 2700x
Xavier Lopez
Dominic Bailey
I thought I wanted to overclock for the lulz but ended up going back to stock because fan noise
Nolan Walker
Same thing happened with the i5 6600. The k version at stock used more wattage, which I assume meant the silicon was lower quality. Furthermore the overclock was crap and used a lot of power.
Colton Miller
Overclocking is a meme, CPU are already powerful enough for any task.
Jace Phillips
CPU's*
plus we are at our maximum height (Clockspeeds)
we need to start making devs to go wide(Multiple cores)
Jayden Adams
Better question is why did you buy Intel.
Liam Cox
That same unnamed benchmark but with 4 lines this time sure convinced me.
John Powell
OCing nowadays is pointless CPUs are smart enough to boost themselves close to their max.
Remember the 8700k boosts to 4.7ghz and that's only 6% of the typical max OC. And of course those extra 300mhz don't translate in 1-1 performance increase.
So yeah OCing both CPUs and GPUs in 2018 is pretty much a pointless waste of time.
Justin Barnes
Not to mention any meager advantage of pushing the OC to the max is cancelled out by a massive increase in power consumption.
John Jackson
I am a corelet stuck with i3-6100, and am considering buying a used 7700K since its base clock is higher than the non-K.
OR I might wait until 7nm Zen comes out since I can save money until then.
Luis Carter
ryzen has no K
stay kucked, buddy
Logan Johnson
CPUs*
Ryder Turner
Wait for 7nm Zen, otherwise you will stay a corelet and additionally you'll become a delidlet.
Anthony Nelson
I love dick in my mouth
John Johnson
has no performance either lmao
Carson James
because I knew I could get 20-30% extra performance for free once my 4670k was starting to fall behind.
Turns out my chip wasnt that great and I only got 21% but thats still pretty good when you consider the K version was only 10 bucks more.
Jackson Jackson
It has been dying ever since Ivy Bridge.
Physics has caught and Intel/AMD are no longer being ultra-conservative with their binning. Their high-end SKUs are close to their clockspeed/thermal envelope. They have locked down their lesser SKUs so no more el cheapo Celeron/Athlon OC that rival high-end SKUs.
Leo Hill
10$ more and a 90$ cooler
Parker Cooper
>overclocking doesnt matter
t. buttblasted intel shill
Joseph Reyes
Really, you think it's intel shill that are against overclocking, considering how amd fanboys get in a fit every time 8700k flaunts it's OC and ryzen gen 1 being stuck at 4ghz or gen2 at 4.25
Jace Davis
what a dumbarse
Elijah Smith
My dad offered me my 4790K for a birthday
Caleb Nelson
because the 4770k was only €7 more expensive at the time
Angel Fisher
>Be me
>Buy Ryzen 1700 for 300 as opposed to 1800x for 480
>Overclock CPU to 3.9GHz/1.325V
why wouldn't i overclock?
Oh, I forgot, AMD offers actual value. intel cucks btfo.
Kevin Ortiz
wow that's a lot of gamings, i wonder how much gamings my cpu can handle
Thomas Edwards
probably not much since Jow Forums is filled with larpers or /v/eddit poorfags
Jacob Campbell
ayyyyyy
Blake Cook
I'm from a time where intel didn't had K shit and everything could be overclocked and beat the shit out of AMD.
I will probably get a second gen threadripper now.
Christopher Taylor
I didnt. I got the based i5 8400
Gabriel Jackson
good choice user, did you get cheap ram and motherboard to go with it?
Nicholas Powell
my condolences
Eli Jones
>year of our lord
>2 cores
Oliver Watson
Nope i bought it at released and got 16gb of 3000mhz ram for 160 and paid 110 for a z370. It was that a or a 1600 at the time and the 1600 is shit at gaming.
Owen James
im using [email protected] and the perf is not that far behind from current gen.
gonna wait for 7nm zen.
8C Zen2 5Ghz is my wet dream.
byebye intel
Noah Martin
ah, too bad you didn't get to build best bang for buck gaming machine.
Still superior choice though.
Jayden Stewart
5.0 Ghz / 4.7 Ghz (stock turbo) = 6%
99.21/94.35 = 5%
The best case scenario.
Benjamin Reyes
That same ram coats 190 now so I am not sweating it and i like the faster ram
Matthew Miller
6600k fag, I don't even know how to overclock my with my shitty asus bios JUST
Joshua Barnes
because it was cheap. i dont even care about the oc features.
Robert Harris
I wonder how 7700K users felt when 8700K was released just 7 months later.
Gabriel Wright
That's true in Ryzen. 3.0 vs 3.7ghz don't mean shit in 1700.
Brody Wilson
It doesn't for standard uses like browsing, also i am not a fanboy of either brand, had a 6100 FX, then an i5 6600k, upped to i7 6700k but those fine ryzen is getting way ahead with all those threads and that nice arch, i might be grabbing the ryzen 2 in the future, i get whatever brand offers my needs better performance.
Xavier Rodriguez
Because I bought the X version
(like seX)
Robert Bailey
a socket a year
Isaiah Thompson
Mmmm
Them where the days
Jaxson Morris
Wrong.
Turbo boost on Intel only does 1-2 core at a time for that 4.7Ghz boost. With BCLK OC, you can get those Turbo to 4.7Ghz. Those extra mhz don't translate 1-1 performance, but rather 1-0.9 performance increase, specially in workload performances.
OC'ing had always been pointless for the mass. Its push has always been for the enthusiasts.
Wrong logic. If you only cared about clock/power efficiency, you'd downclock most of your CPU/GPU. If you cared about power consumption issues, you'd get a weak single core ARM CPU. If you cared about performance, you'd overclock your CPU/GPU/etc. Saying power consumption increase cancels out overclock performance gains is quite ridiculous. The logic itself here is wonky as fuck.
Jace Fisher
Is what you tell yourself.
Nolan Baker
Higher stock clocks on the K ver
Daniel Moore
I didn't. I bought a Threadripper.
Brayden Thomas
>mfw I still use x58 + westmere xeon
James Williams
>I'm from a time where intel didn't had K shit and everything could be overclocked and beat the shit out of AMD.
children are so cute
Cooper Torres
>that 40 year old boomer who still posts on Jow Forums
Andrew Peterson
I can never remember her name. What's the anime?
Nathaniel Russell
>based
you mean shit?
Jaxson Rodriguez
>has to use much faster ram, water cooling, overclock, and manually tuned ram timings to edge it out, while costing much more
KEK
Michael Rodriguez
>Why did you buy the K version
>attaches illustration featuring comparison of two identical K version CPUs
i need a primer on what exactly OP meant by this
Brody Brooks
>much faster ram
doesnt matter ram doesn't make a differnece for intel
>water cooling needed for 4.2
*citation needed*
>overclock
yea that thing good cpus do
>manually tuned ram timings
*citation needed*
cost of a intel platform is $490
cost of a AMD platform for 4.2 ghz and 3466 mhz ram is $505 for a substantial boost
Xavier Foster
Watch the video the screencap is from, retared. He manually adjusted the timings and said you could get that oc on the box cooler and had it watercooled. He clearly explains it costs much more and takes a significant amount of time to configure it to run like that
Isaac Howard
couldn't get that oc on the box cooler.
Its a hardware unboxed video. Look it up
Owen Carter
Are you saying as an intel user that you are far to retarded to do that?
Hudson Richardson
Overclocking is a meme and pulling cmos and fucking with voltages and benching till stable is a waste of time. Having to do this entire process on the ram too is autistic. Then you decide to flash your bios so you have to save all the shit to a profile or you lose it all. Hours of lost time.
Sebastian Foster
you are never going to see 4.7ghz on a stock 8700k, more like 4.5, maybe 4.6 if you have like nothing else going on.
Look at people doing single core cinebench runs. 4.7ghz single would be about a score of 204 but lots of times you see sub 200 scores.
Camden Wood
>Overclocking is a meme
intel everyone
Alexander Gray
lel why is arma such a piece of trash to not be gpu bottlenecked at 1440p
Thomas Morgan
>system randomly crashes a month later
Brayden Richardson
Is that the controller you use to play pubg on cuckbox?
Jason Gomez
because intel is shit
Kayden Moore
You're embarrasing yourself. I dont own an xbox and if you want to have console war threads go back to /v/
Lincoln Smith
Because I couldn't get enough cocks in my ass with a regular intel i9.
Kayden Ward
Yes you do you own an xbox because intel is far to shit for gaymen
Daniel Martin
>spamming multiple threads with xbox comments
Go back to
Landon Thomas
In 2016 when building my ITX build, the 6600k was $5 cheaper than the 6600. Now, the K model did not include a heatsink, which didn't matter because the stock heatsink would not have fit inside my tiny case.
ymmv
Liam Garcia
>retarded xbox user telling anyone else to go to /v/
Cameron Harris
Its CPU bottle necked. ARMA only uses handful of the cores. 1 main for game and 1 other for audio and stuff.
So this game benchmark is purely single core IPC benchmark.
Lincoln Robinson
4670 baby, no reason to upgrade
Angel Perez
tfw literally better performance
Liam Perez
>boomer
But baby boomers are like 60 minimum these days
Christian Flores
Its not lol they updated it, which is why ryzen doesnt completely suck at the game like it used to
Thomas Parker
some dude on reddit received a ryzen 3 with 8 cores
super conservative binning lol
Jason Edwards
Did he have to do something in UEFI like unlocking Phenom II cores or did he just receive a better processor marked as a shittier one?
James White
sailor moon
Nathan Scott
You realize OP that your picture makes an argument for buying the K version? You people are FUCKING STUPID lmao
>K version $20 more
>$1020 build vs $1000 build
>K CPU adds 2% to the system cost for a ~4% increase on that benchmark picture
It's STILL worth it with that biased picture. You are ALWAYS better off overclocking and any fucking excuse not to do it is just showing your own stupidity or apathy to do so.
Bentley Rivera
The non-K version isn't only locked but it's also clocked lower at stock.
Also in the games most people actually play(say the majority of the top 10 on twitch) CPU frequency makes a big deal.
Games tend to be optimized like shit. This is why my 4.8ghz 6600k outperforms my friends 3.8 ghz 1600 by a good 25% in WoW.
Eli Reed
1600 sucks in general at games
Christian Gonzalez
The point is that same argument can be made for K sku Intel chips. Their higher clock stock along with the potential to overclock is important at 1080p in popular games.
Wyatt Ward
The 1600 is unlocked too, sucks just marginally less when overclocked. Headroom is a factor when overclocking
Aiden Robinson
Of course it is but I don't see how that is relevant. The point of my post was that in the games that people actually play and at 1080p that a K sku intel chip makes sense because they benefit from frequency a ton.
I simply mentioned the 1600 because it is an extreme case of a low frequency high throughput chip.
Another advantage to the K sku's+z370, aside from their high stock frequency, is the ability to run higher clocked memory.
Asher Long
The 8700k needs to be delided to not run hot as hell. Part of the whole headroom discussion, there isnt much headroom without a delid. I hate that cpu for being so hot. I was going to get it but having to delid is bullshit
Camden Rogers
Even though the 8700k has shitty TIM which forces you to delid it at least it's something doable.
Ryzen chips no matter if it's the one you buy from the store or the cherrypicked one by Su herself and given to the almighty linus fagtips still won't get pass 4.2 without going nuclear.
Neither the guys from gamers nexus or hardware unboxed which are the least shill channels out there managed to get past the wall which starts at 4ghz and every 100mhz after gets exponentially more fucked up.
Caleb Nguyen
I don't have a new cpu so i don't care.
also don't play games all that much just casual gamer now.
Most of my machines are not top grade cpus because i don't need it.
You know it might sound pathetic but i only have 2 games that i really need my i7 on.
ME: A and RYSE , for some reason they murder cpu proformance.
Other than that having a i7 is purely for bragging rights nothing more.
anything over 60 fps is a meme
t. i7 6700k user
Aaron Morales
God I wish that were me. That guy is ukranian by the way.
Leo Kelly
What is HyperThreading?
Lucas Powell
its russian by the way. DAMN Russian hackers!
Samuel Bell
>why
memes
Evan Thompson
how is that i7 treating you my friend i have on and temps are high as hell, 6700k @4.4Ghz 1.260 Vcore and a CM ML240L RGB AIO shit goes above 75c-80c on Asus Realbench and got some horrible spikes in the high 60c while doing basic stuff, ambient temp is like 32c, also llc on high setting z170m d3h gigabyte mobo.