KDE brainstorm thread

Just make it xfce without screen tearing

Hello time traveler, welcome to the year 2018.
KDE can be now stripped down to consume only about 300 MB of memory which rivals Xfce.

>CSD saves space and is more visually appealing.
You're confusing the eye candy and the implementation behind it.
SSD is a way to get the eye candy and also be compatible with everything else.
CSD is a way to say "fuck you" to everyone who doesn't fit the narrow scope the developer addresses - i.e. exactly why GNOME is pushing it so hard.

What is the eye candy called?

It's a project being worked on by a dev. They complained in IRC that KDE wasn't implementing DWD like they planned to.

eye candy as in the visual design - e.g. buttons and tabs in title bar, etc.

Not him, but CSD isn't all that bad, maybe their implementation is shit, but I think it's going in a good direction (less vertical space use)

t. XFCE user who can't stand GNOME

Do high dpi scaling without breaking propotions

Have you tried Plasma recently?
On my system Kubuntu 18.04, which is by Jow Forums standards a pretty bloated distro, with Dropbox on startup, uses ~550mb on boot.
Now compare it to the retardness that Gnome is.

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Multi-factor authentication on login screen and password promps, with support for hardware tokens, code generators(like google authenticator) and fingerprint sensors(for authentication and/or identification).

Dedicated keyboard daemon.

On paper it makes sense that it would save space, but then they make the the title bars giant.

I already mostly switched, but i want abiluty to mirror 2 screens out of 4 to not reboot into windows.

complete rebranding, e.g. lose the K naming convention

Reverting to KDE 3.5 and continuing from there would get my immediate approval.

they should remove all the visual bloat

>uses ~550mb on boot.
Neat, but how much does it use after an hour of actual use? I'm sure it has parts that are lazy loaded when you actually need to do something with the OS. The usage on boot is useless info

Less than anything gtk.

true, it would be nice to see CSD in plasma
right now you have to use dirty workarounds to achieve it
> What should KDE add or change to convince you to switch?
an ability to round angles of the window *not* by using additional borders
the final look of the application would still depend on your GTK/Qt theme, user

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Stability. Less bloat.

To be honest, not that much more. At least on my usage.
I use it mainly for web + office, some streams sometimes, spotify, etc.
The only thing I noticed that leaves some stuff running and eating around ~100-200mb are the programs that load akonadi (like kmail).
The biggest problem for my ram, like any other modern system, is the web browser. Firefox or Chromium eats the ram like there's no tomorrow, but when I close then it usually goes back to using ~600-800mb.

>Firefox
>VK
>German
>Swetlana
>MacOS look alike
>Anime

Roleplaying as a Russian girl doesn't make you one Hans.

CSD is fucking garbage

>Was it the reddit invasion?
Yes. We have reddit copycats coming here thinking they're clever by posting literally duplicates of reddit posts.

>~550mb on boot.
Bullshit. I'm using the exact same distro and I see almost the same ram usage as Guh-nome. Even worse, though, is the over 2000 packages installed by default. Absolutely disgusting!

sauce? because holy shit that looks great

kek'd

Search the archive for the image.

Whatever m8.

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>What should KDE add or change to convince you to switch?
the main reason why i'm on XFCE still is the fact that each time i tried using KDE it always turned out to be a buggy piece of shit. and i've been trying it out since KDE 3. so, until they get their shit together no KDE for me

plasma 5.13 when?

>he runs his X as root
>laughingwhores.png

They have a release schedule for months ahead, you should look it up

You forgot the Telegram russian botnet Firecuck.

I already run KDE Neon.

It's not 2014. anymore.

but user, if i could choose between being a russian girl or being Hans then i would choose being Hans

> Telegram russian botnet
telegram is blocked in russia now

Both mutter and KWin can do window tiling.

KDE depends on over 2000 packages
That's a massive bloat compared to LXqt or Xfce

>people whine when KDE packages were bloated
>people whine when KDE became modular
Really makes you think.

>an ability to round angles of the window *not* by using additional borders
this

2014
kver.wordpress.com/2014/10/25/presenting-dwd-a-candidate-for-kde-window-decorations/

Share us your rice, please.

I like KDE but the main thing they should do is force everyone not to use retarded names for applications. How am I supposed to remember that I need to find an application called kocksuck in the menu to open a VNC connection or whatever.

I dunno what they need to add, but I find customising KDE a painful mess.

For gnome it's really easy to find lots of good gtk themes, and I can install extensions straight from a website. I can have my gnome setup exactly how I like it within 5 mins on a fresh install.

I've tried KDE a few times and always struggle to find good themes online (without pouring through all the shit on KDE-look), and trying to use KDE discover for extensions/widgets is a painful experience.

I dunno, maybe I'm just a pleb and/or need to spend more time with it, but I find it telling that the majority of kde posts on unixporn use breeze.

make it like not eat 600mb of RAM and we can talk

Not everyone likes tiling wm solutions.

Full Wayland implementation with all common bugs fixed. Finally replacing that buggy desktop search with something that works or dropping it entirely.

making your own theme is suffering

KDE shall not turn into the simplistic tablet focused mess GNOME is. There are certain elements that it would need to improve on, maybe "modernize" itself, but quite frankly if that means lack of functionality, it'd be better for it to stay the way it is.

>tablet UI meme

Not interested.

Honestly, I wanna give KDE a try but I like bspwm so much that I don't see why I would switch.

how? are you talking about my dotfiles?

Is that dock just a customized panel or some extension?

Konqiiiiiiii!

what telegram theme is that?

It's the application dock widget, should be there by default

It's probably Latte Dock.

Latte Dock
no
a custom one, made by me
i.kotobank.ch/file/f2276a3b3aa52a4225efbb8910535d87264b51b6.tdesktop-theme

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they could make it not look like shit

>What should KDE add or change to convince you to switch? For me, it's client side decorations.
Literally nothing. KDE is perfection, in my opinion. I love kubuntu on my macbook air.

To KDE?
I already do that, but it would be nice if they could stabilize the kicker thing, speed up menu rebuilding and remove all the gimmick widgets
To something else?
If they somehow fuck up Kolourpaint I might as well use XFCE or some wm, because I don't do GUI development anymore and Kolourpaint is the only usable paint-like software bar none on linux.

What is that thing?

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Hi, can you be my girlfriend?

>a custom one, made by me
thank you, looks nice

Plasma 5 is now modular, it hardly pulls crap like kde4 (nepomuk and akonadi being the worst offernders), most of the things it pulls are libraries that doesn't uses resources (except a bit of storage) unless they're actually used like any other DE. Also, "bloat" compared to what? maybe if you compare it to xfce/lxde and even more if you compare it to not having a DE then i agree, but compared to other desktop environments it competes very well. Also if we compare with mac and windows is very lightweight, specially compared to windows. Ok, each one draws a different line on what's considered bloated but i consider what you say can very hardly considered true now.

show your tits

I don't think it should change. It's not something I personally want but I think it should exist. If they changed things to how I like them it would just be a bad Gnome clone and would piss off the people who legitimately like KDE.

Currently on manjaro kde with 1200 packages, what happened to the rest?

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Pretty much, yeah. Also, what theme are you using?

breeze transparent dark for desktop, breeze white for colors, sierrabreeze for decorations
see

Which font?

San Francisco

Thanks

It's not on the level of xfce or lxde yet and still buggy as fuck

Lock your widgets.

Latte Dock config?

How did you remove FF's title bar?

In the customize menu if I recall correctly. Enable CSD and then untick show title bar.

Assuming you're using something that supports it at least. I don't know about the KDE workaround.

Thanks, just typed in "titlebar" in about:config and found what I wanted. What does CSD offer?

Except it works just fine.

I do like how KDE looks and I would use it. BUT...
Compared to GNOME it's unstable piece of shit. I literaly had no problems with GNOME but with KDE... so many moving parts... something gets updated something wents wrong...

i use arch btw

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Who is this nerd? :-D

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I'm not entirely informed about it but in general it's the program being in charge of drawing it's own header bar that combines the mostly useless title bar with a tool bar/menu bar. The fear that some people have is that programs will implement this lazily and not respect user settings in regards to where to or which window buttons to display.

3 browsers... all im gonna say.

Thanks!

wtf are all those little bottles with the orange caps?