Europarliament: 'Is facebook a total botnet?'

IT'S
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I'm honestly positively surprised here, the EU appear pretty based. WTF is going on here, Jow Forums ? Are Jow Forums just lying to me?

>This is a public task for the public authorities

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>Implying ToS has ANY legal or other power.

It does in the US.

>This is a public task for the public authorities
So he's your average Republicrat that wants to become part of the Ministry of Truth?

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Not really. It depends on each situation. They are neither 100% legally binding nor meaningless. It's up to the judges to decide on each particular instance so you can neither argue that the TOS are all powerful or that they don't mean anything

>It does in the US.
Hahahahahahahahahaha.

But seriously, I doubt even USA allows private entities to basically write their own laws.

>they unironically prefer to have their """facts""" filtered through the liberal SJW filters of facebook than trusting their own government aka Donald Trump

>this is a public task for the public authorities
And yuros act surprised when Jow Forums makes fun of them. This is China or Venezuela tier

Public authority doesn't mean governmental retards

Right, because Trump decides whether something is fakes news or not. When most media is staunchly anti-Trump. Fucking yuroniggers

>It's the government's job to decide what is true
>This is a european politician
Nothing unexpected here.

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>But seriously, I doubt even USA allows private entities to basically write their own laws.
They can't, obviously. But one of the major differences between US laws and EU laws, is that in the US you can actually sign away your rights if you agree to a contract.

Obviously they aren't all powerful, but see above. In the US, it is actually possible to sign away your rights.

It's not common for credit cards, for example, to include in their terms of service that using their cards defaults to "you agree to these terms and conditions", and that you forfeit your right to sue them and must accept arbitration if you have a dispute with them.

Trump tells the truth. The lying liberals lie.

>in the US you can actually sign away your rights if you agree to a contract.
If the contract requires anything that is unlawful in the jurisdiction it is not a contract. Just because a credit card company may do that, doesn't mean they would win in court.

I'd rather not let people with blatant agendaslike the MSM, The Democratic/Republican Party or Trump influence the flow of information, because no shit they're going to skew it in order to favor themselves. Also, because I'm not a fucking braindead partisan idiot and can do analysis of events on my own.

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>Just because a credit card company may do that, doesn't mean they would win in court.
Except they literally do.

papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=927078

>"I'm intelligent enough to filter facts and analyse data on my own"
>"b-but I still refuse to get my news from any source"

Where?

I get my news from reason.com, though. I didn't say all news sources were shit. Just the ones with an obvious left/right wing bias.

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See mandatory arbitrations, for example.

You should add Reuters to that list, desu.

I also follow Marginal Revolution and the Library of Economics and Liberty as well.

Sure.

>unironically being proud of some asshat saying the government needs to decide what's true
I can't even believe what I'm reading
>b-buh muh yuropeon hooman rights
We warned you this was going to turn into a government takeover of speech, but you guys wouldn't listen.

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It does. How would this public authority be set up? As a private non-profit? Some politician or politicians would still likely have powers to appoint the people running these organizations. If you don't think this could happen, look up what happened to NHK.

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>failed
>genius

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What is Zuckerbot’s endgame?

what can the EU even do?

Some kind of jewish ngo (connected to) osf, adl and/or other neoliberal propaganda groups. Msm will run for a week that it is to fight russian nazis, it was done after public discussion and only because liberal democracy and jewishhomohybridgypsy rights are in danger. Btw there is already law in germany that forces social media to delete politically incorrect content within 24h or face up to 50m € fine. WITHOUT any court decision. But it is not censorship, because it is facebook doing it, right. Who cares that government mandated facebook by law to decide what is acceptable to speak or get 50m fine for each comment. Oh, and you ameritards dont open your mouths too much, all ngos pushing it are paid by us kikes or outright by us embassy.

make israel great again and think of holocaust

because he wants to directly control that. lol how can yuropoors be so dumb?

Actually Guy. All news on facebook is fake. There you go. Problem solved.

Bugman

no msm is safe anymoore

> muh human rights
> muh democracy

>they trust me... Dumb fucks
Why are there facebook shills on Jow Forums?
Facebook needs to go down, along with all social media.

this desu. his "friends" on the other hand...

>stole the idea from his friend
>was forced to pay millions to his ex friend

>LEAVE HIM ALONE

>gov needs to decide what's true and whats false
I'm getting some 1984 vibes here, scary desu. Also what makes him think thst government is more trustworthy.

he stole it from armie hammer x2
and then fucked over his friend spider-man who procured all the money

then he had to pay all 3

perhaps in america, where politics and private corporations fuck you over in so many ways that it makes no difference which side you pick.

lmao fuck that, based EU forcing these botnet fucks to treat our personal information better

get cucked boy

The EU is pretty based.

The European MPs asked better questions than Congress. What's up with that?

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Liberal in Europe = classical liberal.
Liberal in the US = socialist.

So was is the smell or look of her crotch that killed these two innocent butterflies?

I think there's a pretty huge difference in technological knowledge between the US congress/senate and the EU parliament/commission in EU's favour. Visible in both debates and decisions.

I'd like to believe it is just a sudden brap.

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the role of the US government is to bend over to corporations, and since the average poltard thinks the US is the alpha and omega, they think it's the same everywhere. they can't fathom the idea of a government that actually cares about humanity.

>Liberal in the US = socialist.
"Socialist" in the US = barely left-of-center in rest of the world
Actual socialist = Basically some kind of fairytale monster in the US
US terminology is ridiculously tilted to the right

Nonsense.

In the EU, governments are actually representative of the people that are in the countries they govern. I know in the US you've got corporate government anyway so you don't understand this.
And you don't also understand that a corporate overlord is EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME as venuzuela tier dictatorship. Zero accountability, complete control over information without any representation. That's what facebook is.

>people opt in their info and info about their friends and family
>HUURR HOW COULD THEY USE OUR INFO IN EXACTLY THEY WARNED IN THE TOS
>W-WHAT I-I DIDNT GIVE THEM INFO ABOUT GRANNY

You have to also factor in that socialism is actually pretty bad for extracting wealth out of poor people. This is why it's villified in the us- Red Russia was a fantastic excuse to stamp on all socialist movements that were threatening US Corporations like united fruit. Countries that were neutral in the cold war were actively pushed towards the soviet union (with trade sanctions and such) when they decided to do things like not let US corporations fuck them in the ass raw, and so when they turned to the soviets for assistance, the US used this as an excuse to pour weapons into the country and fund rebel groups that would take over, enact horrible dictatorships with death squads, oppression, and all that shit but most importantly; let US corporations fuck their country over.

And so; US is rabidly hateful of socialism because it's a tool that when used in mild amounts painlessly takes profit out of the hands of the (((corporations))). Mild use is forbidden, and only extreme use or no use is allowed.

>there's absolutely nothing suspicious about Google and Facebook airing their dirty laundry in a faux-debate with the governments they are deeply tied to.
Really makes the old noggin jog. Cheer for your preferred team I guess. This is transparently a show to make the gullible believe there's not a deep relationship between international corporatism and the US and EU governments.

This may come as a shock but the EU actually has some integrity. It's why the UK was so desperate to leave. Problem is, the UK is nothing without its expeditionary force crushing natives and squeezing out gold and resources.

Which part? Because Americans have a ridiculous tendency to label everything left-of-center as socialism with zero regards to what it actually means. Also, both Democrats and Republicans have strong right-wing elements, Democrats have plenty of center-right people. They're not a left-wing party in global context. Hell, they're more like the right-wing neoliberals than even the center party.

Lmao you retard. The Soviet union itself was a corporate experiment. Go read up on it, it was western powers, but mostly large American companies and business owners propping it up by feeding them money. Socialism like any systems that realistically requires a centralized power to implement was one big corporate lab experiment. The small guy is strongest when he's unregulated and able to wield mob violence against his rulers.

Kek I wonder what books you were reading

Literally no European country promotes the rabid anti-border open immigration ideology that American liberals dream of. Not even the refugee loving countries like Germany. America's left is radical leftism with a strong faith in central power. European countries are more center with a handful of key socialized programs they'll go to extreme lengths to fund. You're completely mischaracterizing Europe and America on a single issue

>EU
>based
hahahahahahaha good goy!

"Open borders" isn't a left/right thing, there are parties from both sides who are for immigration and against it.
>America's left is radical leftism
lmao, left-wing in the US is tiny to begin with and support for socialism and communism is almost non-existent. With Bernie Sanders there was a small uptick in interest in social democracy but modern social democracy ala Nordic countries is hardly "radical"

>This guy literally wants 1984 and he's running for the presidency of the european commission
YIKES

NOOOOOOO

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It's pretty obvious you're a fucking commie who keeps pivoting over to economic policy to define the left-right spectrum, while conveniently ignoring all stances on social policy.

Bernie's idea of democratic socialism, not social democracy whatever that is, was Venezuela alongside European countries that weren't socialist in the slightest. Democratic socialism is still socialism and rejects capitalism as a functional economic system that can fulfill the people's needs and wants and yet many of the "socialist" European nations are more capitalist than America with fewer regulations and corporate taxes depending on the industries and locality of the company. Germany's average corporate tax was like 10% lower than America's in 2017, which should tell you just how pro-capitalist we actually are (hint, we're not). European nations despite more big and scary news stories about a few industries and handful of key policies have freer markets and more efficient capitalism with less government meddling than the US. Europeans just fund their programs through a more efficient economy and higher burden on the private individual.

How about learning the masses to distinguish facts from lies instead of having someone decide for me what is true?

Yes, "educating" the masses on an industrial scale has worked wonders so far. Public Education is a massive success I think...

>This is transparently a show to make the gullible believe there's not a deep relationship between international corporatism and the US and EU governments.
This is true but

You fucked us, both US and US based corporations. We will fuck you back, EU isnt a vassal state of the US nor a african shithole megacorps get to exploit. Relationships or not there are standards and sovereignty to uphold

In modern countries it is. There's a reason that first world country workers make more money.

Protip: America is stuck in 1800.

Do you even know what "1st world" even is?

The cold war is over, Ameritard.

I've never even been to America

You realize it's just a cultural difference right? The US was founded on the idea of limited government. The philosophy is that man is flawed and can be malevolent. So it's best to either diffuse power so much that it's only slightly useful or to never bestow that power in the first place.

That sortof attitude oozes from our mythos and every single institution we have. We don't have to be like Europe and yall don't have to be like us

3rd world means "countries we can exploit"
2nd world means "countries the soviet stop us exploiting"
And 1st world means "countries in on the exploitation"

>limited government power
>proceeds to go insane with near absolute power

The current administration is even somewhat right to be rolling back regulations. Most of them are just specially made by lobbyists from other companies trying to make a buck or block competition. The irony about net neutrality supporters saying that ISPs hold monopolies is that local governments create local monopolies using their power to regulate utilities and zoning to block competition. And this is after Google plainly exposed the problem

That argument is made completely null by the fact that Facebook still collects data on you EVEN IF you never signed up for their website

Hopefully eurocucks will do a better job than we did.

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Left-right is more of an economic position though than a social one
>you're a fucking commie
thanks for proving one of my points lol

I think social democracy (think of the Nordic countries) was what Bernie was advocating, even though he was branding it as democratic socialism. The policies and most of the rhetoric was much more in line with social democracy than it was of democratic socialism.

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that's quite interesting, I haven't thought of it this way. however, i do think the problem lies within the fact that if the government power is limited, then the corporate power is above it no matter what. my belief is to let the corporate powers rule the world as such, but then have the government on the side of the people to keep the corporations from abusing human rights. I think every single one of us should be a part time worker and part time politician. that way you know what you care about and you can't talk out of your ass because you know what working life is actually like.

holy cowe is this real?

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