If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO R3 1200/1300X or R5 1400/1500X. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY THE R3 2200G AND R5 2400G >R3 2200G - Lite gaming HTPC or gaming WITHOUT a graphics card >G5400 - HTPC, web browsing, or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >i3 8100 - Budget gaming builds >R5 2600/X or i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 2600 for multithread perf) >R7 2700/X or i7 8700K - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
Graphics cards: >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200 >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
> (You) >It could be a bad chip, if the warranty's still good RMA it
Already took it to the shop, they couldn't see anything wrong with it except for some minor dips.
Josiah Ward
Guess I'm buying a Pentium then!! Not the guy you were talking too but did the guys at the store at least try to test out the individual parts to try isolate the problem?
Brayden Parker
Is the surge and insane costs of video cards finally subsiding from the meme crypto mining shit?
The 1080ti is still the best you can get these days right? I want to get the water cooled EVGA variation of ti unless EVGA is now shit these days, its been awhile for me.
David Lee
What's best a 1060 with a i5 8600 or a 1070 with a i3 8100?
William Wood
8400 and 1070
Carter Stewart
G4560 and 1080Ti
Jonathan Jackson
Lol
Benjamin Roberts
Vega 56 and 2700
Jonathan Moore
It's getting better, but still high. It wasn't exactly low before either. The real reason the cards are so expensive is just the whole semiconductor/intel nvida monopoly that really has been going on for decades.
Am I missing something? Even the good rigs in the examples in OP use this but it's Bronze, why?
Hunter Cox
Threadly reminder the [email protected] to get these results required a water cooler, manually tuned expensive ram, and a proper overclocking board, making them not even similarly priced
I'd get the X470 Aorus Ultra and a P400. The MX500 500GB is faster but more expensive
Aaron White
>got a noctura D15 to replace my u12 >barely 5-10 degrees c cooler at load Well off to water cool I guess I don't see my 2700x liking aussie summer if it's already hitting 70+ at stock boost coolnquiet under heavy hedt
Gabriel Bennett
MSI Motherboard is out of stock anyway. Whats the P400 and MX500. Also, I'm seeing some great combo deals on Newegg so this list isn't entirely accurate
Dominic Baker
Are Memorial Day sales a thing for pc part sellers?
>2600x has been at $209 for a week now >Plan to buy it on Friday >8600k drops to $219 along with multiple Z370 boards going on sale too. Might as well wait for Memorial Day sales at this point, but has anyone switched from Intel to AMD purely for gaming? I'm upgrading from a 4690k, but mainly because I'm at 8GB ram and my Extreme4 is starting to go as well.
Jordan Reyes
What are some of the best 1070ti's on the market right now? Any GPU brands in general I should avoid because I'm getting lots of mixed reviews on multiple cards.
Christian Peterson
Thinking about upgrading my old shitposting box and get afew more years out of it.
Any difference between DDR2-667 and DDR2-800 in performance?
Sales on gold rated units are hard to keep up with in the OP and it isn't like bronze units are so much worse at what they do 70-80°C isn't that bad desu Only avoid a video card model if the cooler is inadequate or if the PCB is somehow worse than the reference model Why even bother
The D15 is fucking hueg as well pic related I'll tidy up the fucking cables stop spazzing the poor case has had 3 psus and 3 new system rebuilds in under a year
Going by surface area you'll have about as much as with the D15 so even if you put in really thick copper rads you'll only be getting a few degrees reduction from the D15 since the surface area isn't that much better
Yeah even GTA3's widescreen fix is enough to freeze up every few seconds, I'd start saving up $300-350 for a 2200g build
Mason Diaz
Does that include mobo cost?
Juan White
What do? I dare not run it over 4ghz all core
Hope 7nm runs cooler
Angel Jones
what about RAM?
Matthew Bailey
user the 2600 can be overclocked to 4GHz with the stock cooler, you'll be fine with the D15
Blake Gomez
>What do? I dare not run it over 4ghz all core get intel, people meme it for being a house fire at 5+ GHZ
Jordan Taylor
Get a case with decent airflow and new case fans
Elijah Jones
Not under heavy load tho I'm talking hedt stuff Mate had a 7700k at 5.2ghz on a h110 and it got to 80+ sounding like a wind tunnel Nd was slower than my Zen lol fuck no I'm not touching Intel spectreshit
Luis Miller
I've got an x470 master sli/ac and my stupid ass didn't check the power requirements for the board and there is an 8 pin eps which I've plugged the 8 pin connector from the power supply into but an additional 4 pin beside it making 12 pins in total. My power supply doesn't have an additional 4 pin power connector. What is this used for and is it necessary? The PC boots up fine but I'm wondering if I'm missing out on potential performance if the last 4 pins aren't powered.
Lucas Williams
Cbf I love my old case can't stand these new glass meme cases besides I don't run sides anyway
Asher Cox
4-pin is just for show, kinda like the super OC 1080 Tis have 3 8-pins even though they can't even use 2 fully Basically it's so the board doesn't look bad in photos
Same on my fatal1ty k4 Only running single gpu so it should be fine If you where heavy oc + xfire then you'd have a psu with that anyway
Brandon Taylor
>Mate had a 7700k at 5.2ghz on a h110 and it got to 80+ sounding like a wind tunnel Nd was slower than my Zen lol fuck no I'm not touching Intel spectreshit Wait what type workload? Also >7700k >not 8700k lol
Kevin Sullivan
Beat me to it Well this was a year or so ago when he first built it He was pissed he missed out on the new CPUs then spectre and meltdown happened Nd he fell for the glass meme case and has worse thermals than me hahaha
Isaiah Young
Alright, updated. Good thing I didn't include the 12% discount in the last one.
I really hate you list, the RAM doesn't even have speed let alone latency displayed. Consider getting a better quality PSU. and maybe better motherboard. Also I can only assume from your build that you are going for bang for buck budget gaming build?
Nolan Gutierrez
>B350 is more expensive than a B360 Interesting. The only thing here that knocks Intel out is their own decision to lock their equivalent CPU and cap RAM speeds on their more affordable chipset. But I guess this comes back to the two companies, Intel and AMD. One of these brands creates a wide array of products through various price ranges with consumer interest in mind, the other forces you to pay through the nose to get features that should be standard.
Lincoln Johnson
Should I get a refurbished dell optiplex with an i7 2600, 8 GB of ram at 1333 MHz and a 500 GB HDD for $200? Only game I play is LoL
Jordan Reed
Wait so its atleast 1 month until new gen cards but prices wont even drop then because no one will buy founders card so we should wait 1-2 extra months until the other companies start selling them. Thats 3 more months we have to wait until prices drop right?
If it's anything like the Rampage 4 Extreme that extra 4 pin isn't required for anything other than the kind of voltages needed for say LN2 competitive overclocking. Depending in the CPU, the single 8 pin is more than adequate for general overclocking.
Nathan Baker
Are the higher end X470 (Gaming 7, M7, etc) boards worth it if I plan on upgrading to whatever Zen 2 is if I'm getting a 2600x? Or should I just stick to the boards that are 'appropriate' for the 2600x ($150-200 range)
Jose Martin
You cant get a stable 4.2ghz oc on a b350. 4.2ghz is a balls to the wall high voltage oc not meant for peasant last gen budget boards
Kevin Brown
Exactly. Going back to the company that cares about its consumers allowing the same socket to support future generations of CPUs. Yet a B350 is all that's required to achieve those results.
Brandon Peterson
>I really hate you list, the RAM doesn't even have speed let alone latency displayed. The RAM speed is 2400MHz
>Consider getting a better quality PSU. and maybe better motherboard. The other MBs (B360/Z370/H370) are all 50% more expensive. I just picked a 550W PSU.
>Also I can only assume from your build that you are going for bang for buck budget gaming build? Yes.
I don't know the MBs for Ryzen. Is that cheaper or that much better?
Robert Clark
I want to replace my GPU because its support under linux is nonexistent. what is the absolute cheapest gpu one can get that supports multiple monitor setups and has working linux drivers?
Cameron Walker
>It performs better at stock you tard, Better than what?
>not to mention 2933 is the same price as 2666 and even cheap B350 boards overclock 6 cores fine >cheap motherboard will OC ryzen to 4.2ghz stable with no issues uuuuhuh
Carson Garcia
If you already have a GPU sure, if not just go for a 2200g/2400g
Dominic Cruz
>hurr 1.4v+ oc will gey the same results on the b350 Except he didnt use the b350 so bullshit
Great thanks. I read this last night but couldn't recall if the additional 4 pins weren't needed unless over clocking or if it mentioned that only 4 of the 8 were required.
Anthony Bell
>I don't know the MBs for Ryzen. Is that cheaper or that much better? Not necessarily cheaper. But it has better upgrade path.
You can use A320, B350, X370 or X470 for Ryzen
John Bailey
Fuck off retard. You're worse than Intel shill.
Dominic Collins
>The RAM speed is 2400MHz You can in theory to for 2666MHz since that is the max for non OC with cheap motherboards. But if the price is bad you probably don't care. >The other MBs (B360/Z370/H370) are all 50% more expensive. Valid concern, still look if you can find anything decent in the B360 range, getting a cheap motherboard and PSU is just asking for trouble in the long run, so if you have the luxury to avoid that you should.
>Yes. Then you are doing pretty good. What refreshrate does your monitor have?
>I don't know the MBs for Ryzen. Is that cheaper or that much better? For gaming, no. 8400 is best bang for buck and 8700k is best performance in gaming department. If you don't stream or do productivity related workloads or don't multitask like mad, there really isn't a point in going AMD over intel in gaming workloads. Unless you really hate intel, or money/performance ratio doesn't bother you, or if you don't want the best performance. Oh also like this guy mentioned AMD has an upgrade path, so if you want to buy a CPU every year it's clearly better since you don't need to replace the motherboard as well. But I question why somebody making a budget build would care about getting a new CPU all the time.
Parker Martin
>1.42v isnt a lot of voltage HAHAHAHAHAH delusional shill
Blake James
>The 8400 as shown in the graph Except the 8400 stock wins vs 2600 stock in the, keyword: majority of cases.
Brody Roberts
Sure it'll be better but I'd get the X470 Aorus Ultra or Prime X470-Pro and put that extra money on the GPU or a 2700x
Thomas Johnson
>1.42V is not balls to the wall and this is 6 Zen+ cores, not a Vega card hahahaha >1.42V 5.2GHZ 8700k >amd fanboys will be sure to tell you that you need to delid, use liquid metal and a liquid cooler to achieve this >for ryzen on the other hand 1.42 is baby voltage and a simple stock cooler will handle it under heavy load
Jackson Evans
My monitor is 144Mhz. Yeah, I really don't care about buying new CPUs every year. Last time I bought a CPU it was 4 years ago and it served me well. I wish I could get an i7, but it's 500 bucks more expensive.
Jose Ross
>144mhz monitor Kek
Liam Cook
>and put that extra money on the GPU or a 2700x If I was going to spend $300 on a CPU just for gaming I'd spend the extra 20 and get the 8700k. I'm not on such a tight budget that I need to drop any components down a tier as well. Although I guess it would depend if I knew how much the 1180 was.
I've only used Intel so I wasn't sure about 'future-proofing' motherboards for the next gen.
Liam Diaz
>My monitor is 144Mhz. Ah, the only thing that can provide the minimums for that is a 8700k with a 1080ti but naturally it seems you don't want/can't spend that much. the 8400 and 1070 are a good step down where you probably the best bang for your buck in terms of gaming. Just be sure your motherboard isn't crap and your PSU is reliable. Believe me I have done budget builds myself and getting the absolute cheapest motherboard and PSU is a good way to fry the rest of your system.
Leo Hall
oh look an intel shill is having a meltdown
Thomas Young
do you guys think there will be any good deals during Memorial Day?
im not sure if tech companies do it or not or if its just like a sears and jc penny thing
Andrew Thomas
>I openly claimed that 1.42V is not balls to the wall >how can I ever recover from this >oh I know I will call everybody a shill top kek
