Post funny jokes, I'll start

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$25k for a startup absolutely and it costs millions for any huge company.

Think of all the data sources a modern tech company has, you have kafka logs being ingested into S3, you have some relational database, you have google analytics, etc.

With GDPR you now need to figure out how to get all of that data and provide it to the user ad hoc on request. You also have to find all of the data and delete on request. This is not an easy technical problem.

Also you got to make all server logs GDPR compliant. You can't just log peoples IP anymore when they visit your website.

Maybe this will cause companies to not collect unnecessary data in the first place.

>IP Logs
>Unnecessary

lol

>butthurt 'murimutts

>IP logs
>necessary
>in a world where you could let a person choose if they want to be logged or not and then just use a cookie

You're on Jow Forums faggit, we behind 7 proxies, IP logs are cancer, any kind of logs are.

>trusting cookies for rate limiting and spam prevention

lmao

What's funny is that Facebook is moving to the US just so they can track people more.

reuters.com/article/us-facebook-privacy-eu-exclusive/exclusive-facebook-to-put-1-5-billion-users-out-of-reach-of-new-eu-privacy-law-idUSKBN1HQ00P

Europe blocking Amerimutts from stealing 1st world countries' data

europe is a joke in itself.

Jow Forums can't meme lol

i find it funny how eu is more concerned about data-mining than their own personal safety. i guess their cuck porn web browsing is so embarrassing they'd rather die than have it leaked.

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this
why do they think every board needs their nationalistic shitposting

*buys your startup*
>a-at least we’re white

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not even that, they have absolutely nothing except variations of 56%

>American software engineers

>I can't read
American education?

butthurt scumbag detected

youre a scumbag
>wah websites cant sell private data to dozens or even hundreds of others
wahhhh cry more scumbag

>they add at least $25k to the cost of building a web site.
fuck youre retarded
you are nothing but a scumbag

we get it, youre a scumbag

that would seem like the sensible thing to do to anyone who isnt a scumbag
the fact that this somehow seems bad to you is evidence that you are indeed a scumbag

you clearly are a scumbag

dont confuse the general population with the scumbags trying to manipulate and control the rest of us

yeah sucks how they have things like free healthcare. i too enjoy millionaires profiting off peoples sickness, while others are left to die because they couldnt afford proer healthcare

oh wait, youre just a scumbag

>Journalctl is cancer.

tsk tsk tsk...

> free healthcare
lol comes out of your tax dollars, dumbass. i dont want to pay for dipshits like you to survive.

so let me get this straight, youd rather pay $5k a year to a health insurance company whos going to take half of it than pay $5k to taxes where no middle man cuts out profit

right, makes total sense. youd rather give your money to a scumbag insurance company. instead of going to a pool to help people who cant afford health insurance, youd rather it go to a pool where millionaire scumbags get your money instead

either youre retarded, or more likely, you are a scumbag

you do realize before obamacare you didn't need health insurance in murrica? i'd rather go with that. millionaires don't get my money and worthless leeches like you are left to die.

jokes?

freedom in usa

why on earth are you bringing up obamacare? this is some desparate goal post moving you are doing

get the fuck out of here scumbag

pointing out your false dilemma, there are other options other than single payer and health insurance. all things equal the options you're left to die in are better.

>European software companies
And they're making it worse.

Barriers to entry = less businesses = less jobs.
As a European I'm concerned by the lack of concern of my fellow Europeans.

>so let me get this straight, youd rather pay $5k a year to a health insurance company whos going to take half of it than pay $5k to taxes where no middle man cuts out profit
But you don't pay $5k a year for taxes for health insurance.
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_revenue_to_GDP_ratio
>Norway 54.8%
>Finland 54.2%
>Denmark 50.8%
>Sweden 49.8%
>Belgium 47.9%
>France 47.9%
>Germany 44.5%
>Italy 43.5%
>Austria 43.4%
Imagine having to pay more than half your paycheck in taxes. In fact, since the tax revenue to GDP ratio is 55% this means that there are some people who are probably paying >60% of their income as tax revenue.

are you implying that's a bad thing?

come to any of these countries and see ho w people live compared to US

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moved the goal post to the moon

you europeans live like shit desu. crammed apartments with tiny ass appliances. shitty small smart cars. everything 3x as expensive here in murrica. modern day peasants but considered middle class lol.

> free healthcare
fuck off nigger i've been waiting one month and they still have not let my uncle in for his cancer treatment.

>live like shit

lets see what the quality of life index is saying
numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings_by_country.jsp
oh wait usa barely makes it into the top 10 even being behind new zealand

we are closer to our family, taking regular family gathering through the year, we have free uper education providing each child in society a fighting chance at a good life, we have health care and social services and ensure you are never let to fall too low in society, we have unions that ensure we are not taken advantage of, we have 20 days governmental ensured free working days a year, meaning we are alowed to travel and experience life as it's meant to be. Not that you Americans would know anything about living life or enjoying culture
and yea all this shit costs money. But wages end up being less disproportionate, meaning you are judges less on how much money you make, and you have the freedom to pursue what career you love in life without fear of financial disaster.

that is an aggregate of all classes. useless. so the janitor lives better, who the fuck cares?

... the janitor ?

>GDPR

you'll never get as rich as you can in murrica tho. yurop has dynastic families who hoard all your country's wealth. always be some other guy's bitch at the end of the day.

American consumer rights
American privacy

Both of you shut the fuck up already, it’s pretty clear neither of you know what the fuck you’re talking about.

Or maybe it'll kill small companies who can't afford $250/hr international corporate law lawyers

I mean looking at the Purchasing Power, Cost of Living and Property Price to Income Ratio (more objective measures of quality of life compared to the other indexes since they are based on actual economic data) , you're basically proving his point

What do they mean out of reach? GDPR is valid as long as you serve to europeans.

>look i found 3 indexes that usa is better therefore they are better

the quality of life is measured on all aspects not just on the ones you THINK its better just because of reasons

remember when usa was shitposting the ppp for like a decade to showcase how awesome they were and suddenly now that china has surpassed them by far the ppp became irrelevant?
thats pretty much what you are doing

Windows

yes the janitor

because fuck you logic
if i didnt know better i wold say that Jow Forums is leaking only those retards would come and use such idiotic things

Oh, we should sacrifice privacy for the sake of corporate interests? Yeah pretty sure you're a Yank and not European

>Not that you Americans would know anything about living life or enjoying culture
It's funny how Europeans still think they have "culture". Your European "culture" died in the 50s when you mongoloids decided to basically genocide each other as you are want to do every century. Half the things you think are European were created by American pop-culture and you adopted it because you're consistently behind the curve.

I live in one of those countries, you cunt.

>american car companies

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>they’re in the top 10
why do people act like it’s hell on earth? Burgers on Jow Forums always talk about how bad they have it

what an obvious scumbag you are. i work for one of the biggest companies on the planet, and singlehandedly make more money than the average 2 person household in the US. Unlike you, however, I care about people other than myself. thats what makes you such an obvious scumbag

Because Europoors get reamed on imports.

>*buys your startup*
this, there was o many dev studios in the 90 in france, EA bought them all, fuck them

>when you think car companies are still the way to determine if a country is technologically advanced

I'm going to have a good laugh when all the European cars have google autopilot attached to the roof and android/ios operating systems

>Unlike you, however, I care about people other than myself
Then start handing out money you cunt

I'm only concerned with those three indexes because they're the most objective out of all of them (along with the pollution index). You can pull hard data out and verify the findings the report. The other indices are basically just subjective judgements given quantitative values based on how the people that made the damn plot think it should be as a sort of baseline for their measurement, so yeah, of course I'm going to give less credence to the other indices

...

They will have to, because the EU tech sector is in the shitter and the EU parliament is making it worse while the people cheer.

There are software engineers that aren't in America?

and? add the 26% for the US to the 20% the average american pays in inurance premium, deductibles, and random other BS medical coss and you come out ahead in those countries even with their high taxes, yet they get better care, and hundreds of thousands of people dont go bankrupt trying to pay medical expenses. oh, and since they get preventative care, they dont end up with serious issues they could have avoided with simple care earlier on

fuck you are such a shameless scumbag

>objective

so basicly only the relevant indexed that makes my country great again matters
the rest are just pointless and subjective because WHO DOESNT WANNA LIVE ON A SHITHOLE

country?

so the american is paying 46% and still makes more money across the board than Yuropoors

Jesus Christ , Europeans really are the scum of the earth. I gave a good reason why it's bullshit: because hard data matters more than arbitrary subjective measurements. Just because you can't wrap your head around the fact that people insert their biases into shitty data tables like this with nonsensical unmeasurable categories and instead use babby's first ad hominem to counter it isn't my problem.

up untill you have a health problem then suddenly every single bit you managed to save will go to actually save your self

being a yuropoor feels great right about now

>Then start handing out money you cunt
I am sure I will when older family members start heading towards bankruptcy because they get overwhelmed with medical costs

no you never gave a good reason
what you did was to take specific indexes that directly corelates with each other make them out of context and say

!!! SEE USA IS BETTER ON THOSE THEREFORE I CLAIM THEM AS OBJECTIVE BECAUSE OF REASONS SO THAT OUR GREAT NATION CAN BE ON THE TOP 5!!!

thats quite different from what the whole world sees and measures

You realize insurance exists right
It’s free if you work a job worth a damn

Do you think that people in Europe don't have to pay anything? Of course they do. On top of that they get months long wait times.

So if you have a shit work, you die?

Also, Saudi Arabia and the UAE along with China would be further up if we went along the lines of what I was saying since they're stats are in the ballpark of the USA's. Honestly, I think SA would surpass the US in most regards.

>!!! SEE USA IS BETTER ON THOSE THEREFORE I CLAIM THEM AS OBJECTIVE BECAUSE OF REASONS SO THAT OUR GREAT NATION CAN BE ON THE TOP 5!!!
It's a good thing that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying if you want an objective list, use categories that can be judged by objective criteria, not something that can and will vary for country to country, with each countries' system working well for them, and using your own subjectively biased viewpoints as some sort of objective measure. I don't care if the US is #1 or #100. This is the equivalent of a "Top 10" list. All I'm saying is that if you want to use said list as some sort of proof of some objective proof, it should use objective standards. That's why economists talk about the purchasing power of an individual in a country along with it's GDP/ GDP per capita: because those are objective measures of economic growth and a good tool to compare the economic activities of countries.

In Europe when you get a health problem you wait for a specialist doctor for 4 months.

yeah which honestly, 70% of Americans are fine with that

Healthcare funding would be a lot easier if we cut military spending. The only reason the military industrial complex exists is because year after year, despite shitting on our military spending, Europeans base our relationship with them on the fucking US navy. Same with asian nations. Their governments are always demanding naval presence. If our allies didn't demand it we'd eventually cut military spending because it's not sustainable, but nope.

You're free to pay me for my personal data, don't want to buy them from me? No selling further then.

I don't think you appreciate just how much money healthcare needs.
>The increase represents a sharp uptick from 2017 spending, which the U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) now estimates to have been a 4.6 percent climb to nearly $3.5 trillion.[1]
>The defense budget authorizes just under $700 billion in defense spending
Yeah, that $700 billion sure is going to change the $3.5 trillion in healthcare spending.

You're using your data as payment for the service. If you don't want your data to be used then don't use the service.

This thread has become a joke, much like the EU has.
The regulations cost a lot to implement, will definitly kill innovation in the EU on software development.
However, facebook can't sell that like you gave that cat picture this one time.

>he needs insurance for his health

yeah probably if went to greece or italy that are becoming shitholes

Not him, but pic related shows how ridiculously large the healthcare budget is compared to the WAY smaller (yet still bloated) military budget.

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yeah the problem starts and ends that there is no regulative market for the drugs and everyone asks for whatever the fuck they want
aka your goverment doesnt want to bitchslap them therefore they pass the cost to you

Then put up your service behind paywall if you believe it's worth revenue.

But then people won't use it, because cunts like you think everything must be freely handed to them. There will always be other services outside of the EU that will offer a free service and take your data without caring about the regulation. EU company behind pay wall goes out of business, but the one stealing data outside of EU just continues on.

A 20% increase wouldn't be trivial but that's beside the point, you're listing total healthcare spending in the US. CMS isn't estimating just Medicare and Medicaid costs. Private spending like private insurance, drug purchases, and out of pocket is like over half of that 3.5, probably close to 2/3. Medicare and Medicaid together are about 2x the defense spending.