Can someone explain to me why you use apple products? I'll admit when Steve Jobs was alive he innovated amazing products, now that he's dead the company makes garbage and blames you for their bad engineering.
But as a computer person, why would you want a company that doesn't let you freely play with the hardware and software? Why would you want to pay overpriced amounts for old ass hardware? Why would you allow a company to force you to buy new stuff just because of a software update? Why do you pay for them to control you so much? Why buy apple?
Some people just get aroused by being a cuckold. It's a pretty big fetish apparently.
William Allen
Yeah That's what it feels like I just hate to see them voluntarily suffering while glorifying it as a superior experience
Luis Fisher
That ThinkPad may have been acceptable in 1999, but now it looks like a fat plastic turd. Sorry not sorry.
Jaxson Gray
You do realize that apple is selling you the same hardware in a thin bendable aluminum sheet right?
Connor Fisher
>But as a computer person, why would you want a company that doesn't let you freely play with the hardware and software? except they do
useraccessible removable ram and drives are allowed to be fiddled with without voiding a warranty on all devices
>Why would you want to pay overpriced amounts for old ass hardware?
the only valid complaint
>Why would you allow a company to force you to buy new stuff just because of a software update?
Apple’s fragmentation is far less than Google or Microsoft's fragmentation, and they offer support and software updates for many years after. Android still struggles with this.
>why do you pay for them to control you so much?
Control? What control?
the only controlling thing Apple has done in recent years is release Metal instead of supporting OpenGL 4+
maybe the headphone jack and notch...
All other software companies exercise equal or greater amounts of control, just in different ways.
>Why buy apple?
stop trying to judge others’ decisions based on false generalizations and false information
Luke Martinez
I'm not judging My little sister own apple, but she only bought it as a status symbol I just hate the trend that new means "It has to be this way"
And I don't get why it's such a popular option
Lucas Flores
Apple Don't think about it
Jaxon Cooper
>useraccessible removable ram and drives are allowed to be fiddled with without voiding a warranty on all devices So I can't upgrade my own laptop?
>Apple’s fragmentation is far less than Google or Microsoft's fragmentation, and they offer support and software updates for many years after. Android still struggles with this. Fair point But they still do this with the iPhone
>Control? What control? Dude, c'mon apple has you use their version of whatever software One guy I met didn't know that drop box and one drive are a thing
Gabriel Ortiz
iOS is better than Windows, and some of us pros need serious apps, not this "just use Corel" shit.
Using "Grade B" in an "Unlimited Class" arena will get you killed.
Apple renders fast, doesn't crash, and doesn't have those completely retarded, required, system screwing incessant updates.
I'm a pro, I can't be havin' that.
step away from the Jow Forums memebanter and it gets serious.
>iOS is better than Windows Steam Most software Free downloads
>Apple renders fast, doesn't crash, and doesn't have those completely retarded, required, system screwing incessant updates. youtu.be/3XAW3vv1_18 Linux
>Using "Grade B" in an "Unlimited Class" arena will get you killed. I have no clue what you're saying
Colton Morales
Apple laptops are just regular laptops(albeit with the shittiest thermal solution imaginable). No excuse to get an iphone though.
Dylan Baker
>Apple laptops are just regular laptops Ugh.... What?
Justin Adams
You can install windows or linux on them, no problem. Even chromebooks are more locked down.
Luke Harris
because it works
no, really. micro$oft has messed up windows updates severely on its already adware-infested botnet OS. makes you wonder how the company has even a shred of credibility left.
linux desktop environments are a mess in general and their graphics drivers have always sucked.
Evan King
Oh Okay, it just wasn't very well explained
Why do you hate iPhone?
Juan Stewart
Locked bootloader.
Kevin Long
You can't complain about a botnet when you have a bios backdoor
>linux desktop environments are a mess in general and their graphics drivers have always sucked. K youtu.be/qXkB7AVze0Y
Yeah Why the fuck do I need my phone to spy one me?
Owen Ortiz
I got a 2016 MacBook Pro non-touchbar after being a longtime hater. Windows laptops, even an XPS and Surface Book, feel clunky and cheap compared to my MBP. It's solid and always fast, I never wait for shit to load and I've only ever heard the fans come on once. Luckily, I bought mine used on Craigslist for a bet after returning my 2017 because I needed more storage. I paid $1150 for a Space Grey 13" i5, 16gb, 512gb. My 2017 was $1700 for the same but 256gb, admittedly making my purchase more reasonable. There was some learning curve at the beginning, but macOS unironically just werks, I haven't bothered booting up Windows on it in months. Windows and Linux are good for my desktop, but macOS makes me much more productive than I thought it would.
Julian Allen
Huh Some one who has real experience and can actually testify for something and isn't biased to one think with a cult like mindset
I like you guy
Brody Collins
>but macOS unironically just werks Create a file in Finder.
Because I need a stable unix-like system that doesn't just randomly break right when I need to fix a critical bug in production or hold a talk / presentation
Alexander Young
Wow I tihnk even I would buy that
Ryder Wright
Install gentoo -_-
Jack Jones
Honestly, the oversized trackpad is what pushed me to decide on it. My 2013 Toshiba Satellite had a shit trackpad, the fans came on all the time, and I never used the touchscreen unless the trackpad/mouse froze.
Of all the stupid arguments I read on this board, that one is one of the most petty. I only used New in Windows to create new folders, macOS has New Folder at the top of the list when right clicking, making my workflow that much easier.
>conflating how a company designs their product with how I do my work Every time.
Cameron Clark
I use openSUSE on a 2012 with an i5 and 16GB ram. Pre-throttling, dvd drive and full ports, god-tier trackpad. Fucking fantastic setup.
Jacob Moore
I'm not going to subscribe to that awful Creative Cloud bullshit that Adobe is trying to shove down my throat for Premiere Pro
Brandon Nguyen
Instead of randomly posting youtube videos, why don't you try explaining things. Give us an idea that you actually understand what you're talking about.
Isaiah Howard
Why do I keep hearing that? It's a fucking petty way of saying "you have no point" Jesus I post a video so people don't do the retarded political thing and nit pic a argument rather than actually arguing it
It's a video on a OS called SemiCode It's a Linux distro made for writing software
Charles Jenkins
So many excuses, so little created files.
Elijah Nguyen
mac is better than windows ans yes i use windows, at work, cuz i have to
Gabriel Jones
Loonix, which is "free", can't get more than 3% of the desktop. Apple, which isn't "free" has almost 10%. The market has spoken. All your bitching and trash-talking about Apple is preaching to the chior. Until you guys get your act together, stop being pussy-whipped by theocrats with their weird obsessions, and make Loonix something normies can use you'll be forever whining. Technical superiority is like technical virginity; it doesn't count in the real world.
Isaiah Nelson
Mac is just better because mac is better MAKE A ARGUMENT!!!
Jonathan Ross
I'm on Linux as a browsing OS I also love to play in the terminal
And yeah windows has the PC market But the internet runs on linux
Chase Morgan
some doctors might accidentally kill one patient so they may as well purposely kill all patients
Isaac Rivera
What?
Jonathan Davis
unix based
Ryder King
>No VMware >No Adobe Suite >No IDE >Nothing but shit Microsoft programs are listed
FUCK, I'M BTFO
Grayson Powell
Linux is unix clone Your point is?
Cameron Rivera
some soldiers inevitably will accidentally kill a civilian so they may as well target civilians purposely
Jace Young
linux is better than mac. mac is better than windows
Isaiah Thompson
you fucking nigger stop ruining the market
Isaac Walker
Quit being autistic and explain
John Bailey
It's a free market till I hate it
Mason Gray
Because it just works. >inb4 some nitpick shit
Ryan Hall
ebay isn't a free market. Stop. You're just as bad as thinknigger sellers shilling their shit and bumping prices up on 10 year old laptops.
Ayden Perry
You don't know the definition of free market AND APPLE DOES THE SAME SHIT!!!
Colton Mitchell
linux is better than mac because it is foss. mac is better than windows because its unix
Jason Morris
ebay is regulated as fuck you retard. Apple isn't selling 5 year old, cum covered laptops with hacked together OS's either. I tried hackintosh on my memebook and not only is it buggy shit, you literally need an external mouse because both the trackpad and trackpoint are complete shit.
Charles Stewart
it's unix in name only
Ayden Roberts
the display on my macbook pro 13 inch is wonderful for reading my medical school books
because that is really all that i was looking for. the best display for reading and the least ammount of eyestrain, but something that could be used for more than what a tablet could
Daniel Garcia
Finally I autistically thank you
Noah Price
I sold my macbook air because it couldn't run a proper version of okular, which I personally need for my med school texts. you couldn't even do basic shit in shitOS like scrolling with hjkl
Henry Barnes
I would argue But holy fuck is this funny You are on my do not shit with list
Luke Flores
I assume its because it just works.
Jaxson White
>macshit >work Pick one.
Nathan Miller
no, scrolling was better and the display is good. Only the dell xps has a better display in my opinion, but the trackpad scrolling isnt as good.
Justin Nguyen
It's just a way of saying "You have no idea what you're talking about."
If you hear it all the time, maybe it's true...
Carter Hill
Maybe i'm just on a website with a bunch of neckbeard shit heads who are more assinine that IT guys and assume their opinion is automatically fact
I don't own macbook or iPhone but I install hackintosh because it is far easier than other distros having both GUI apps and CLI apps Windows = steam picture mode nothing else for me
Xavier Perry
Clearly it does for the vast, vast majority of people. Stop shitposting.
Zachary Martinez
Go to any mall and find the place with the longest lines. It's always the applel cuck store with 500 people lined up at all hours to get their malfunctioning appleshit fixed. All this while only having 2% and 10% marketshare in desktop/mobile markets. Appleshit is barely functional garbage on a good day and completely broken trash on a typical day. Stop shilling.
Ryder Rogers
>I'll admit when Steve Jobs was alive he innovated amazing products
No one has ever said this on this board at any point in Steve's life.
Connor Smith
Is that good or bad?
Zachary Cruz
Windows is the best all-round OS at this point. Apple is niche luxury, Linux is for servers and hobbyists.
Jeremiah Nelson
And yet Apple has no viable used grade path for laptops or desktops they sold 5 years ago.
Brayden Perez
I'm tempted to get a mac book pro. I like linux but I'd like the compatibility of microsoft word, photoshop and scrivener.
>rossman No, I just don't buy into shit advertising
Oliver Rogers
Its bad, I've been hearing it a lot since Tim became CEO and it just proves that Apple haters will even contradict themselves to try and bash Apple. I've been on this board for over 10 years and for the past 2, without fail, every time Steve Jobs has been mentioned its been in a positive light. I do not fucking understand. This coming from an Applefag too.
I mean I'm using manjaro right now full time and I'm getting my emacs set up is slowly replacing word and scrivener but I would like photoshop and lightroom.
Elijah Miller
First I wanna hear your thoughts on Steve Jobs This is intresting
David Scott
Gimp?
Jeremiah Wood
I'm so glad that GIMP exists but for more advanced shit (like hair selection) GIMP doesn't cut it. Crossover/Wine involves some fuckery so straight up support would be nice.
Xavier Martinez
They're stable and just work.
Windows users have to deal with a randomly self destructing system. HDDs don't even fucking work in Windows 10 anymore. Microsoft is a massive fuckup.
Ian Ross
My trackpad on my gaming laptop just stopped working I can't afford a mac
This is why I love linux Free It works
Samuel Wright
Funnily, I think he and Richard Stallman are very similar. They're both stubborn as fuck real visionaries who in the end, were totally right. They're also the biggest hindrances to their own greatness. Richard Stallman is ruining the FOSS movement with his extreme autism and very bad image as well as zero business sense (make something amazing and sell it, make it FOSS and promote it's benefits, force others to follow) and Steve Jobs crippled Apple with his OCD and phobia of spinning fans. Took him like 2 years to agree to iPhone having native, local installed applications as he was convinced 'web apps' were the proper way. He's squandered a lot of potentially good ideas but of course, he was the captain, he made the whole movement and started the whole thing. He was just often stubborn on good ideas being implemented.
Overall my general idea is that he took Apple far enough, if he stayed any longer as CEO he would have fucked things up. Besides, he's left at least 20-30 years of roadmap paths for the company, his whole DNA remains in that company and they're still basically operating in the same way. Proof being their day to day decision making and operations remain identical. Every time I hear 'steev wudnt have approved this!' bullshit it pisses me off. Apple are still operating well within Jobs' vision. At most they're deviating by being involved with things he wasn't very enthusiastic about at the time but probably would have came around to later, like the Watch, which Jony Ive said recently that Steve had little interest in the idea of a watch.
Jason Mitchell
yeah losing swiping is sad, but muh tiling is more efficient anyway and not moving from the home row is comfy
Cameron Adams
I like the OS, and I can write iOS and macOS apps with it for $.
William Turner
But metal is actually better than OpenGL
Carter Bell
Ironically this is what was so good about him Similar to Stanley Kubrik Horrible to work with, gets amazing results when the work is done
Lincoln Smith
No, I'm pretty sure it's because you're a retard
Hudson Lee
No I'm on linux I'm autistic
Hence why I post videos rather than trying to talk
I use OS X for a UNIX OS with commercial application support. I use my iMac so I don't have to deal with hackintoshing. My desktop's basically a thin client anyway so having an AIO means more space for my HTPC and servers.