This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a fine watch, clock, or other timepiece.
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>PO prices going up because poorfags are getting priced out of rolex
>gonna sell mine soon for a profit
Right has a decent rack, if you're the guy who posts about living in Brooklyn piss off you fucking cunt hipster and stop baseding up /wt/
I have never even been to brooklin
You are doing the work of the lord windy
fuck this week is going so slowly without a watch
>still 40% reduced on grey market
lmao no one with a functioning brain cell buys at retail price, let alone poorfags
used rolex prices have been almost as high as retail for the past 2 years
>You are doing the work of the lord windy
haha thanks, I am just trying to post about watches though, right now digital Timex watches from 1996
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Where the hungaroanon at? Did he get banned again?
>he thinks permatrolls can be banned
Shut the fuck up, pajeet. I wasn't talking to you.
Rude.
How would they not be banned if banned once? What do you do to come back?
>being this new
>not trying to bait you into admitting ban evasion to get you banned again
I tried
>i-i was only pretending!
Spotted the high schooler who wears his dad's Seiko and thinks he is hot shit.
The other anons are right about your posting windy, you are really pushing it.
I still like you though.
I mean it was so obvious you didn't fall for it.
My dad has a Casio Edifice I chose and brought for him Bluetooth and I think it was solar as well. I have talked about it a handful of times here in the past.
Post watches set to current time and date.
Is there a Tuna model that's midsized?
The EU is not completely full of poorfags , why does casio sells the good models for japan :\
What watch finding service is good?
ebay
the watch I want isn't on ebay
You can import it no problem. Very few people in Europe are going to drop $500 on a quartz Casio that's not a G-Shock.
It's probably a Jap tactic for artificial exclusivity. Seiko and Citizen does the same thing. Same with Jap automotive companies.
My sarb is running +/-2 seconds a day nice
My BB is running +/- 0 seconds a day nice
My Vostok stays within +/-5 minutes for at least a week.
Have Swissfags gotten over pic related yet?
>my shitty, characterless, anodyne weeb watch has 1% better finishing than this other watch!
>that means it's better!
kys faggot, absolutely no one cares
That's a "no" then
Retard.
@66131691
>dude this watch is better than this watch
>why?
>because the hands look slightly better when I look at it under my 50x eye loupe
>slightly better
Actually, that kind of rough hand edge is very obvious when the light hits it, giving off these glinty dots instead of a shiny strip.
Without any bevels the hands and indices look like something off a cheap watch not 55k.
You mean on the Patek? Yes indeed.
And those rough, sheer edges (from die pressing) remind me of cheap cutlery.
You know what's even worse? We have several people who own Pateks or work with watches and say they've never seen a real PP watch with that level of bad finishing in reality.
Will this idiot listen? Nah. He'd much rather ignore facts and believe his Nippon Banzai! is simply superior to every watch making in the entire world.
>weebs claiming that their weeb shitter watch is better than a patek annual calendar because the finishing on the underside of the 2mm long power reserve indicator is only 99% as good as their shitty basedko
Very, very embarrassing.
Until these people take macro pics of "their" watches, their words mean absolutely dick when there is direct photographic evidence of shitty Patek finishing.
>why isn't this watch with curved hands and indices finished as well as one that just uses straight lines everywhere?
>underside
Sides.
>power reserve indicator
All hands. And indices. Pic related.
>99% as good
Nowhere near as good.
You can simply google image search Patek movements and find thousands of perfectly fine pictures. I'm curious how many days you spent trying to find these laughable examples? It's honestly sad.
GS finishes much more intricate curves. See the logo in pic related for instance.
>You know what's even worse? We have several people who own Pateks or work with watches and say they've never seen a real PP watch with that level of bad finishing in reality
Really? I've been reading almost all wt threads for a couple years and I don't remember this. Only the same guy replying "nitpicked", never any true rebuttal. I'm not saying the seiko autist is necessarily 100% right, but so far nobody has argued his "evidence" apart from saying "you wrong lmao patek wouldn't be like this".
lmao that printing
looks like fucking trash
>it's okay if finishing is shit because it's Patek
If I spent 50k on watch, I'd be embarrassed to see a 5k one be better finished too but you can't keep deluding yourself like that.
The GS finish is in another dimension both figuratively and literally. Patek apparently don't have access to the equipment needed to finish that many axes on such delicate parts. Seiko are kind of cheating bringing the superconductor division into a watch market.
semiconductor* derp
>You can simply google image search Patek movements and find thousands of perfectly fine pictures.
We're talking about external finishing, not movements.
And btw, Patek's "cheaper" movements have pretty shit finishing.
>"adjusted to six positions and temperature"
>literally a fucking typo on the back of their watch
>still includes a regulating screw because basedko know their shitty movement will run erratic
Well I don't ready ever thread but I remember at least two threads in the last few weeks I was in where a guy who had seen several hundred pateks said he's never seen one badly finished like these biased shots.
>Typo
?
>typo
Are you american by any chance?
That's not a typo fren.
It breaks down like this:
>"ADJUSTED TO six positions"
>"and"
>"ADJUSTED TO temperature"
The way you're reading it shows that you think they adjusted it to six temperatures, lmao brainlet.
>adjusted to six positions and temperature
Oh no, I used the wrong word. You know exactly what I meant so stop being a dick.
You still haven't said how much time you spent cherry picking these images?
There's nothing wrong there and definitely no typos.
>seiko only adjust their watches to six temperatures
Embarrassing, Patek have been adjusting their movements to 12 temperatures since the 80s, even Omega do it to nine.
>Oh no, I used the wrong word.
Well what word were you trying to use instead of "movements"?
>You still haven't said how much time you spent cherry picking these images?
Go and cherry pick a few images that show good finishing of Patek hands and indices.
I'll wait.
>inb4 300x212 pixel underlit photocopies of faxed images
Legally, Japan only has 6 temperatures though.
If they wanted to test to more than those, they'd have to test them outside of Japan, which would negate the "made in Japan" moniker they're so proud of.
>I remember at least two threads in the last few weeks I was in where a guy who had seen several hundred pateks
My dad saw THOUSANDS of Pateks and he says they all have shit finishing.
Why? What do I win?
For some reason I don't believe you. Nice try though.
>What do I win?
Whatever you were trying to win by claiming those Patek pics were cherrypicked.
>spend five grand on a watch
>it only tells the time when you're in an air conditioned room
Interesting. Thanks for the information!
I guess that concludes this argument, then. The evidence is overwhelming.
>GS printing
>trash
>mom I posted it again
>Patek apparently don't have access to the equipment needed to finish that many axes on such delicate parts
To be honest, all it would take to clean up those hand edges is a buffing wheel.
They're gold, you could 'finish' them by rubbing them along your jeans.
Trying to get /wt/ to acknowledge that swiss Jews are cucking them is true martyrdom.
2/10 and only because I chuckled.
Speaking as someone who owns Patek Phillippes I feel like I can comment. No I'm not posting pics as this Seiko guys seems like a twat. Hold a Patek and a Grand Seiko in your hand and the difference is obvious. The external and movement finishing is not the same at all.
Do I hate GS? Hell no, I own two of them but I understand them for what they are. Some of the better made watches as that price bracket.
Sure a low end Patek is 3 to 4 times the price of a GS. Are they 3 to 4 times better? No.
Would I take a Patek over a Grand Seiko? Yes, every single time.
They charge thousands of pounds for finishing parts you can't even see, why do such a half assed job on the hands? They look like tidied up stampings
>I'm not posting pics
>No I'm not posting pics as this Seiko guys seems like a twat.
k bro
GS external finishing completely demolishes even the most expensive Pateks. Deal with it.
>They look like tidied up stampings
That's exactly what they are, with very minimal tidying up.
Just look at the big hand in you can see tiny gold shavings dangling from the bottom left by the stamping process.
This would have disappeared even from simply handling those hands.
They're just stamped and forgotten until it's time to install them.
Seiko are kind of cheating though. Using semiconductor manufacturing techniques that deal in nanometres on a watch is overkill
You mean MEMS? That's only used for movement parts like the escape wheel.
How the fuck do they finish so many axes on the hands then?
It seems like no matter what you're told you will believe what you want to. Makes no difference to me. If you didn't come across like a school kid who shouts and screams windmilling their hands when they have an argument I would have a serious discussion about my collection and post images. But instead ...
Though if Seiko Epson ever decides to get into making silicon oscillator movements it really will be cheating as they have more photolithographic manufacturing capacity than every other watchmaker on earth combined.
Wasting quads on butthurt larping. Sad!
> larping
Manual work.
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I didn't think it was possible to bevel something that delicate all the way down to the point, by hand but there you go.
Hah. Well that shut him up.
Oh we're still doing this are we?
>no timestamp
It's basically machine-assisted handwork.
For some operations the workpieces get lined up on a slat or a rotary holder.
> he thinks this is /b/
you'll be asking for tits next.
Post KINO watch logo desgins.
>he thinks a pic with no timestamp is proof of anything