do suits genuinely think they can get away with it or they just simply too stupid to understand the concepts? I don't think Hanlon's razor applies here, a nice fine would probably help them reread the finer points of not abusing opt-outs, but place your bets
The government already records all my communications. Why should I give a shit about private companies storing a tiny fraction of that?
Bentley Lee
>child porn being handled by 500 people globally is an issue >the cesspool state of the internet isn't Uhh
Colton Parker
Someone is doing it for (a large) profit and you don't gain anything in exchange.
Dylan Hughes
>I just got beat up by a few negros who cares if a homeless guy steals my wallet
Adrian Morris
>child porn Somthing which affects 0,000000000-something of Earth's population. On the other hand, online privacy violation is an issue for everyone accessing the internet.
Jace Reyes
because it's not just communcations and it's not just a tiny fraction
>Which won't be fixed by some stupid law. I won't. But it's a step towards the right direction. And I personally don't think it's stupid.
>I'll bet you even have a Facebook account lol. I don't have a faecesbook account.
James Turner
That's not the point, retard. It's like saying I don't care about protective measures in hazardous environment because I don't go there.
Henry Reed
Yeah good for fucking you. My university handles contact with students via facebook only. I need facebook and I need a regulated version of it. Seemingly, enough people think like me.
David Roberts
websites have already changed how they handle your data.
youre literally wrong
Luis Bell
I don't need "protection" from the same government that is the biggest privacy violator of all.
Dominic Wright
Why are Americans so much against data protection laws?
if it's a severe violation and austria won't do shit the matter can be raised with the eu proper to avoid this issue
>GDPR won't be enforced. >We don't even have enough cyber police gdpr fines are a civil matter and will be handled by individual member states, it's not like the eu is about to send boots on the ground to foreign countries to collect the bigger implication of gdpr is that foreign businesses will self-regulate when dealing with eu customers as eu businesses will be less receptive about doing businesses with companies that refuse compliance, and obviously foreign companies will look to being compliant if they ever want to set up shop in europe as many have opted to do previously and you're right, it is an excuse to fine the likes of google and facebook more, because current fines are completely ineffectual at doing that - it's only up to £500k in the uk for instance
Jeremiah Campbell
The government has the ability to utilize the information they have on you. Private companies ARE utilizing the information they have on you. That's the difference. The government has the means, but, for the most part, not the intent. Private companies are struggling to obtain the means, but they sure fucking do have the intent.
Benjamin Anderson
because their dear corporations cant make them great again without selling data for money
Joseph Walker
muh business rights > personal rights because everyone thinks they're going to be the next billionaire selling chamois cloth or grills
Lucas Morgan
I'm sure most mid-tier and smaller websites are taking a wait and see approach for the EU to go after the big fish and set precedent.
Nicholas Walker
Not everyone here in Europe agrees with GDPR. I genuinely despise it and really wish that they could fuck off but there is little i can personally do about it. Luckily I got accepted into Berkeley so ill be out of this shithole by August
Lucas Murphy
$5.75 has been earned from your posts.
Charles Clark
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I block all ads and scripts. And we dont use USD in my country
Juan Clark
>It's just an excuse for the EU to "fine" (tax, really) Facebook and Google. Unironically this
Tyler Richardson
Stop going to tech illiterate universities. Education is pointless anyway.
Easton Young
Your shitstain of an american opinion has no hold
Cameron Jones
spoken like a true shill
Joseph Jones
>all these asscorroded Muslims ITT
Why are European emotions this fragile? Is it their insecurity or endless inferiority complex?
>I'm the one who thought of this vague concept first, don't you even dare to make something using it without giving me my shekels first. >What's that? People are going to get rights to their own information? Oy vey! Antisemite! This is absolutely horrible!
This is all I could find: 16 May 2018 (GDPR and tech competition)
Competitors of Facebook and Google say that the new European regulations, the GDPR will help, not hinder, Facebook and Google.
At the same time, I am not sure that increased competition in "ad tech" is progress. I think the goal should be ever fewer ad tech companies, ultimately zero.
Jow Forums for the past week: >haha europoors BTFO murrican companies will refuse to do business in the eu now! meanwhile, commerce secretary to the us: >b-but the gdpr will create a barrier to trade >we don't have a clear understanding of how to comply
Caleb Adams
Thay makes them BASED. You retarded welfare monkey
Nolan Hill
Based EU If it upsets this many mutts you know it's working
Jacob Phillips
Good trump, trade wars are good and easy to win. Gdpr is mostly targeted towards the USA since we own all the major tech companies, he isn't going to stand for that.
>I don't need "protection" from the same government that is the biggest privacy violator of all. You are also not every person on this planet. Why are you pretending to be dense?
Ayden Nguyen
>win Getting your life tracked by literally thousands of companies doesn't seem like a "win" to me...
Carson Peterson
Sucking a foreign governments cock and supporting them hurting domestic companies that i have my retirement invested in isnt a win
Oh the communist isnt invested? Color me surprised
Evan Hughes
>Which won't be fixed by some stupid law. T. NSA
John Nelson
America thrives off of the collection and aggregation of personal information
Charles Fisher
>I AM THE ONE DESERVES THE BENEFITS FROM OTHERS EFFORTS t. commie
Dylan Nguyen
Maybe you invested poorly
Hunter Sanchez
This is nothing more than smoke and mirrors. The EU is getting a lot of shit for doing nothing about all the terrorism operating openly on the internet. They hope that by making this molehill into a mountain that will people will forget how utterly incompetent the EU is, until they get hit by the truck of peace.
>It's just an excuse for the EU to "fine" (tax, really) Facebook and Google.
This, and yurotards don't realize that all this will accomplish if their prices being jacked up.
Dominic Bennett
Next time you shouldn't invest in companies generating most of their revenue from abusing of some obviously unmoral and anticivic business strategies.
Xavier Sanders
been updating my sites for this GDPR madness for a couple of days already. It was a pain in the ass to collect all the privacy policies of all the services. I'm still compiling all the cookies used by plugins. implementing analytics and adsense with some kind of opt-in notification is going to be a pain in the ass. i only get to see a small subset of all the data collected by google and i'm supposed to be responsible of implementing all these changes on my site, i mean, shoudn't google be responsible of making all these changes? they are the ones collecting all sorts of data, i can only see stats about my website
Ryder Ortiz
>shoudn't google be responsible of making all these changes? In fact yes, they should but they won't because they are trying to force Europe to fit their masters-of-internet/see-all agenda: in other words, they are purposely trying to make things as hard as they can to generate artificial pressure from small and medium-sized enterprises like yours..
Nathaniel Hall
None of you are employed or have any value to society, so GDPR means next-to-nothing for anyone on this board.
Aaron Martinez
>have cancer tier gacha mobileshit clone game >earning decent enough money from targeted ads and IAP >suddenly muh gdpr >60% of playerbase in EU, can't pull out >code in opt out feature as required because don't want to lose the revenue >if opt out is used, flag is set on server that player is a cuck >cucks get debuffs to all server side RNG rolls >increase in IAPs more than offsets loss in ad revenue >mfw
>muh morality You cant play this angle while appealing to an authoritative government to force businesses to do what you want
Jaxon Stewart
Do you realize how many tech companies are in index funds? Everyone is invested in them if you actually invest
Jose Reed
>blah blah mental gymnastics investing in capitalidst companies is the real communism Kys
Christopher Watson
>forcing kikes to stop kiking >immoral
John Sanchez
>government enforced racism >moral Kek.
Thomas Johnson
>market regulation is waicis libertarians really are just autistic liberals
Eli Ramirez
You said it not me, fucktard. I am a republican not a lolbertarian go strawman someone else
Ryan Sanchez
>cuckservative even better
Asher Cooper
They've been brainwashed since birth to think that Corporations good, Goberment bad. Everything that's supposed to be good for the people is seen as "libcuck commie shit".
Oliver Price
google is responsible for the data they collect, obviously, but you're responsible the data you let google collect on your behalf, it was your choice to use google analytics instead of doing it in house and you're part of the reason why google has such a market dominant position in this regard the gdpr doesn't criminalise using third party services but if you want to use hundreds of shitter companies which are prone to being compromised and abusing their position you need to get your ducks in a row and let customers opt out of those as they choose, nobody is forcing you to put google analytic javascript on your page
Jason Ross
Sure commie, tell me how it's about "business" rights Protip: it's not It's about private property. You come into my house, I can take whatever data I want, I can film you, make you do a survey before entering, etc. Websites are private property. By being on the site, you are consenting to data collection. GDPR is essentially just big daddy government giving you permission to tresspass on my property and violate my rules.
More like everyone has a version of Alexa in their house that collect data on everything you do and sells it. Except it's dozens of different "ad tech" shitters, all trying to manipulate you into buying things and subverting every web business model to do it.
Asher Flores
Not an argument.
William Jenkins
Before GDPR: >Hey, could I get a cup of coffee? >"Sure, here's your coffee, but I spat in it."
Now: >Can I get a cup of coffee? I want only a cup of coffee, with nothing else included. If you don't want to offer me the coffee, then that's fine, but if you choose to give me coffee, and it ends up having spit in it, then I'll sue you, as I am only consenting to the purchase of coffee, and want to consume nothing else. >"Sure, here's your coffee" | "No deal. Please leave my property"
Burgers call this communism because they’ve been subjected to several generations of corporate propaganda that programs them not to disobey the oligarchy, lest the communism boogieman eat you in your sleep. Burgers literally cannot comprehend the concept of functional government.
Samuel Cooper
i can't choose what google is collecting,if i could i would try to restrict everything but it's not possible can you please tell me a good alternative to google analytics?
Colton Miller
But Government is bad, faggot.
Asher Ward
you have to be 18 or older to post on this site
Cooper Hernandez
You're only proving that we were right to tell the crown to eat shit.
>You come into my house, I can take whatever data I want, I can film you, make you do a survey before entering, etc. That does not mean you get to do whatever you want with that information without the other person knowing. Your house is not a large bureaucratic enterprise, your autistic principles do not apply to how the real world works.
Ryder Mitchell
>How dare you violate my freedom by forcing my corporate overlords to ask before pissing on me! ...where the fuck is all the GDPR anger on Jow Forums coming from? Is there something I'm missing?
Connor Cruz
>comparing right to bear arms with companies trying to avoid responsibility for their actions Corporations are not people. Get over it.
>Sure commie, tell me how it's about "business" rights I take it that reading comprehension isn't your strong suit >Why are Americans so much against data protection laws? >[because americans believe] business rights [are superior to] personal rights
>I can take whatever data I want yeah, I mean you could look through my wallet while I'm banging your wife but then I sue you when you fraudulently misuse my data, see how this works? >I can film you which is a right given to you but has been eroded by celebrities as you cannot stick a picture of my mug on, well, a mug, you also can't take a picture of me where I have some expectation to privacy like when I'm clogging up your shitter - what kind of 'free' country do you live in where you can't even stick a camera in your toilet? and not that it matters much but the right to photograph people without consent doesn't exist in some european countries, who knew >Websites are private property. websites are not private property, you're essentially complaining that you put up a 'garage sale' sign on your lawn and now people have crossed your property line, you've given them express permission to use your site through the terms and conditions, but even if you want to take the tresspassing analogy to the extreme most us states require that you put up signs prohibiting tresspassing or verbally telling people to leave your property before it's really enforceable, and most countries and probably states make the act of tresspassing require bypassing devices meant to keep people out like gates and fences, if you don't want people to use your site put up access controls and quit whining >By being on the site, you are consenting to data collection. through a contract, however contracts generally cannot sign away individual rights and in the eu we have the right to be forgotten among other rights further protected by the gdpr
James Davis
they're mostly retarded teenagers
Adrian Price
Yeah I'm baffled too, if anything I thought Jow Forums is going to be the only place on the internet that would support internet privacy, I guess Americans here love their corporate overlords too much to be able to think for themselves.
Oliver Peterson
Put your activity where your mouth is and stop asking daddy government to save you.
Ethan Lee
>you either worship government or have to necessarily oppose literally anything it does Reality does not care about your lolbertard ideology.
Andrew Bennett
there's a bunch of open source self hosted alternatives like matomo but depending on how little you need you could probably get away with stuff your webserver has the capacity to log I don't mean to suggest that switching from GA would be easy though, it's probably slightly more difficult as you do need to treat analytics as personal data if you're self hosting unless you fully anonymise it
Alexander Rodriguez
Stop being weak and do things yourself.
Ayden James
>American """""""""""""""""intellectual""""""""""""""""" Is commonwealth immoral in the US? Is your freedum threatened by the EU for protecting our right to privacy?
Ayden Morgan
Holy fuck you are actually stupid user... do you ever visit semi-public spaces?
Matthew Martinez
Fucking republicans >the cause of people getting shot couldn’t possibly be guns
Mason Garcia
Being forced to do something by threat of consiquence by the goverment is threatening the freedom of the individuals who own and work for effected businesses
John Stewart
Any time a corporation isn’t allowed to do whatever the fuck it wants means less freedums