Did apple shoot themselves in the foot with this...

Did apple shoot themselves in the foot with this? It seems like the majority of the hype was killed off because Apple keeps breaking compatibility with older versions.

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No really just swift become ghetto Apple,outside no developer will programming for it.

Swift is the fastest growing programming language there is. This thread is garbage.

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IOS and MacOS development simply isn't hype driven.
The developers are not like hyperactive web developers who can't use software that's older than a month because that's already deprecated and because the newest meme.js framework, the newest, even more confusing, yet less efficient, slower, less powerful module bundler and some new CSS framework that literally adds 3 seconds to first paint on mobile 3g devices are just so appealing.

Breaking compatibility with older versions isn't that bad because for the most part apple made it easy to upgrade. It's better to dare to break compatibility early to fix the language than to keep those mistakes around forever. Otherwise you end up like PHP.

Nice autism

Object C was fastest growing programming language per years and nobody use it outside Apple ghetto.

Swift had same fate.

>keeps breaking compatibility with older versions
That's what happens when people who don't know what they are doing decide to make "yet another programming language".

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ITT: A retard who didn't suffer upgrading from Swift 1 through 3.

Swift 3 to 4 isn't bad, and Swift 4 is getting ABI stability, so this mess will end soon. Essentially we were beta-testing for Apple up until 4, which is as per usual when dealing with Apple.

Swift is a pretty decent language with good performance. Miles better than Java.

it's not hype driven because iOS and macOS developers have no choice but to use whatever Apple makes available

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>3x slower than Java and Kotlin

well yeah you have to disable all the safety checks to get any performance out of it, but who needs those?

my bad, it's just 2.5x slower on macOS

disabling safety checks makes no difference. wtf I hate swift now.

Swift doesn't need to bear every language just objC which was always slow ass

Swift is basically Rust but with the borrow checker replaced with old-fashioned garbage collection, right?

That's the problem, it's changing too fast.

Swift isn't as hardcore as Rust, and wouldn't be suitable for low level things because it does too much hand-holding. Its garbage collection is just automatic reference counting. It doesn't have GC passes or anything.

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ABI stability in swift 5

If you were to believe Apple and the Apple Fanbase, everyone (even your grandmother) is churning out iOS and mac apps with swift and it's so good it solves world hunger.

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Just because Creator Swift get out Apple for Tesla and get BTFO by Tesla, change to Google and now want use Swift for TF don’t add Swift full ecosystem from ML or Deeplearning.

is this a markov chain or are you a stroke victim?