/hpg/ - Headphone General

stax

Why are your tubes wearing sweaters

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might as well just post porn at this point

pls do

my.mixtape.moe/dydgah.flac

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I particular want something with top tier noise isolation and want as cheap as possible, the only reason I'm considering the 50e hd 280pro is because they cost 100e new, so I think I can still probably sell them at profit if I fuckup.

I mostly want to know is, if I buy the th 02 and put a pair of chink hm5 pads on them, will they become overear and will they still isolate noise well?

WHY THE FUCK ARE THE SHP9500 SO DIFFICULT TO FIND IN EUROPE

Because taxes, I wanted to buy the sony mdr-v6, but I gave up on it, since I would have to pay a shit ton of taxes to import them and no warantie, Seems that absolutely no store has them, only the mdr-7506 but I don't care what people say, they measure completely different thus I'm not interested in the 7506.
For a headphone that is supposed to be the world's most used studio reference headphone, I find incredible that I can't buy them.

buying shit sucks in europe, that was my least favorite part of living there, you definitely don't even realize how bad it is until you live in america or asia

>DJ Lain
Noice.

Well it works out for you in the end, because both of those headphones are garbage. Get a Takstar Pro 82.

why is the takstar so great according to you?

i bought the hd 800 S version. am i screwed? i got it for the sound stage, the fact that it's been adjusted so that music with less quality you find around the web sounds better and it's easy to remove, replace cables and ear cups and the solid build construction

i was looking at the l700 by stax, but you have the buy the amp that only works with the meme cables, and the meme cables cannot be removed from the headphone...the l700's seem like hipster headphones that reproduce an older style of sound that people will listen to their old ass songs with

did i make the right choice?

Are Bose QCii good or just a meme?

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whars wrong with planar headphones?

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>did i make the right choice?
no.

you should be demoing headphones before you buy them at that price point, you also seem embarrassingly misinformed about electrostatic headphones

It's not great, but for under $100 it's pretty good. There aren't many good headphones under $100. It sounds good for the price, comes with nice earpads stock, has a detachable cable, and is very comfortable. Adjustable bass ports too, if that matters to you. It's only $60-something.

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I don't think they are garbage, they measure super flat, they were actually flatter than many headphones at much higher price range, thing is that the little deviation they have the 7506 are midcentric while the v6 have some bass sweetening

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this is bait right lol

oh okay, how would the dip at 5k Hz sound like?

>sony mdr v-6 for main headphones
>kz atz for IEMs
am i a meme

>they measure super flat
yeah I bet

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>stax
whats a stax

>I don't think they are garbage
they are pretty shit

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SHP9500S.

Geometrically inefficient. Wire space filling in the magnetic field is poor compared to coil dynamics.
The limited dynamic range is usually made up by large diaphragms covered by large neo magnet arrays, but that introduces its own issue of mass and bulk. You could also introduce a narrower spacing to increase sensitivity for the magnet used, but this limits ultimate output.
As an aside, it seems a peculiar coincidence that planar dynamics would be reintroduced into the headphone market right as the market was experiencing a neodymium price bubble.

what's a stax

stax

I see, I never paid attention to ringing and decay, I guess I will have to do some of research all over again.
Thanks user

what's the advantage of using a square as opposed to a circle?

Why should I bother demoing when Z reviews says the l700 by stax are the end game? And everyone else here is also saying stax l700 is the best possible headphone you can get, like the orpheus but better.

the L700 are still a shadow of the stax 009 and the 007 is much better for people who prefer warmer sound

So can we stop having these threads now?

if you have a lot of money: Stax l700

if you have a bit of money: Sennheiser HD 600, 650

if you're poor: takstar

we don't need to discuss headphones anymore, we know what the best is now.

if you have a lot of money you can get 009S and BHSE though

>the L700 are still a shadow of the stax 009 and the 007
sure buddy

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one day I hope you get to try some high end headphones

but inner fedilty says focals are the best

Alright Jow Forums. I’m stupid and here’s my post.

Budget:
Around $350.

Flexible I guess. If a cheaper one is better but is less A E S T H E T I C. I’d prefer the better one. Slightly over is probably fine too.

Location:
Land of Burgers

Source:
Will Mostly be using my phone. (I’m assuming that’s shit and I’m a loser but I don’t go on Jow Forums so I’m sorry ok. Recommend a better portable alternative if you have one. I don’t listen to music at home much aside from my speaker system.)

Type:
IEMs
I have huge ears so regular headphones basically never work for me.

Comfort:
As long as it has rubber or foam tips I’m probably good.

Sound Signature:
I’m pretty sure I want neutral from what I’ve read. I just want the music to sound as close as possible to the original recording.

Previous:
I have Sony XBA-H1’s. I really like their sound for acoustic and instrumental stuff and definitely want new ones that have that “authentic” sound for that style, but I never thought they really delivered on Bass or more Pop based music.

I listen to everything though so I’m definitely looking for IEM’s that can be used pretty universally.

In exchange, I offer a picture of nice flowers.

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Why is there ALWAYS a thread about headphones but never one for AMPS/DACS and such?

Wanted to know where to buy pre-built Cracks

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p-post ears user
everyone else is saying basically but it seems off
i don't know shit about headphones so idk senpai

t. Never heard both

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but the SHP9500s is even unheard of here

amps and dacs are discussed in these threads

These people should not be allowed to make graphs.
If you are going to apply octave smoothing to a CSD, you are better off not bothering. Use a different type of time-frequency representation, such as the wavelet transform or any other constant-Q transform.

Square wires can be packed in tighter. At least for coils anyway.
As for a rectangular diaphragm, should be easier to tension. Has possible excursion issues with uneven bending. Not sure why you would want it in a headphone.

so if done correctly, good bending, i guess
you have more wires, more electricity, better sound, no?

Not extensively as headphones are, which is surprising, given the fact that sound also depends on how one pairs their headphones.

All solid state amps sound the same.

The same could be said for Tubes tho...

tubes are just hardware EQ, every tube sounds different

Did I do good? It's cheap,durable, and sounds pretty good. Has anyone owned a pair? Didn't want to break the bank on new earbuds

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Are there any notable Bluetooth "high quality" IEM's? I keep searching but all I get are old models or $30 amazon chink phones with dubious range/battery.

I have a $20 cheap IEM, but was curious if it was possible to up them to anything note worthy.

what's a tube for in a headphone?

nothing bluetooth is high quality, especially iems. the physical limitations of needing to cram a bluetooth receiver, dac, amp, battery, and driver, are far too much to allow for good sound

>what are digital filters

Problem is those aren’t IEM’s.

Please /hpg/, you’re my only hope.

software EQ

tubes are used in headphone amps to amplify a signal, but instead of doing it cleanly like a solid state transistor amplifier would they do it with an EQ pass so it sounds a different way

*blocks your stax*

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Vsonic GR07

Are just all round good IEM's.

Not audible for 1000

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first for 820 sounds like garbage
literally a plot to make people buy the cheaper 800/800S

its the same thing they did with the hd600. released in the 90s they kept releasing very slightly altered versions of it, and continue to this day with the 660s even though all of them are basically the same as the base model and arguably none of them are even better. now with the hd800 they're playing their game with incredibly small variations to find new reasons to pump up the price and get people to buy the same products again & again at full msrp. the hd600 is a great headphone though. but at the price of the hd800 there are dozens and dozens of better choices, I hope nobody here ends up with one.

I will almost feel bad if anyone takes indo user's impressions seriously and ends up buying the HD800S

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Nice stax shilling, Z.

They're a good deal now since 800s are around or under $900 used. With the 600 series, I'd only agree in terms of 660S vs everything else but now with the 6XX people just have to choose between a warm headphone and waiting for it to ship or the 600 off amazon

*bzzzzz*

What were his impressions? They sounded kind of muffled to me, having another peak just like the original 800. Vocal presence was also a bit forward for my taste. The only things I liked about it were how wide the soundstage is for a closed headphone and the pads.

>Kind of overpriced but I like them a lot. Seems that Sennheiser listened to the complaints of the HD800S and addressed them with the HD820: more forward mids and upper mid presence and one of the best bass that I've ever head from a headphone.

> shit distorted sound unless you drop $$$$ on HD800
> garbage build quality, feels like a mcdonalds toy
can someone tell me why Jow Forums obsessed with sennheiser?

Why are there people who say the E10K sounds "cold" while others say the E10K sounds warm.

this general is obsessed with stax and the hd600, there's not actually many sennheiser fanboys here the company gets shit on pretty regularly, especially for how bad a lot of the non hd600 cheaper models are and how overpriced the higher models are

hd600 cable is too long. any decent replacements? do cables change sound?

>the company gets shit on pretty regularly
this

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>any decent replacements
plenty
>do cables change sound
longer cables can cause problems, otherwise no

any brands you guys can recommend?

the hd800 is designed for absolute clinical clarity. it's an analytical headphone so that you can hear every nuance, it's not for jamming to music. It's soulless perfection

>it's an analytical headphone so that you can hear every nuance
pffft hahaha then why does it have such large soundstage that makes details hard to hear?

I hope you listen to some good headphones one day

Is that your own personal opinion or is that what everybody over on headfi and super best audio friends are saying? because i can assure you they are not. they are considered one of the best for a reason

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one day you'll hear stax

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The only thing Jow Forums has an issue with is the price. to actually start attacking the quality of the phone is nothing short of retardation

the reason the price is an issue with the hd800 is because there are so many better headphones at the same price. if the hd800 was $500 there would be no problem, it's hard to do better at that price.

$500 brand new? I hope you're joking bud.

$500 would be the price that would make the hd800 an excellent headphone. going higher than that it doesn't compete with today's competitive market at the high end.

Are there any young audiophools in here? I feel like I shouldn't be taking my personal audio this seriously.

>if the hd800 was $500 there would be no problem, it's hard to do better at that price.
jesus the way your brain thinks is incredible
>going higher than that it doesn't compete with today's competitive market at the high end.
so you're saying there are better headphones for the price? in that case what happens when you lower the price of the hd800 and it's competition? it will still be the worse headphone for the price. why do you get to only reduce the price of the hd800 but not its competition?

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Square wires don't hold for planar drivers. That applies to standard coil dynamics.
Mind you, most coil dynamics are not that efficient. Planars are still more inefficient, but at least the modern planars are not severely constrained in output as they were in the past.