/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Example gaming builds and _monitor_ suggestions; click on the blue titles to see notes
pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>Learn how to build a PC
youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g
>How to install Win7 on Ryzen
pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1

If you want help:
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
>Post at least some attempt at a parts list
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs:
>NO R3 1200/1300X or R5 1400/1500X. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY THE R3 2200G AND R5 2400G
>R3 2200G - Lite gaming HTPC or gaming WITHOUT a graphics card
>G5400 - HTPC, web browsing, or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card
>i3 8100 - Budget gaming builds
>R5 2600/X or i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 2600 for multithread perf)
>R7 2700/X or i7 8700K - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing

RAM:
>Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal
>Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports

Graphics cards:
>Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon)
1080p
>MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200
>GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match
1440p
>GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced
>GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match
2160p (4K)
>GTX 1080Ti

General:
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
>A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor

Previous:

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Other urls found in this thread:

pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
pcpartpicker.com/list/MjGPJ8
pcpartpicker.com/user/Hipocrates1780/saved/cV7kTW
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353072&cm_re=diypc_zondda-b_black_usb_3.0_mid_tower-_-11-353-072-_-Product
newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125881
newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125901
m.newegg.com/products/N82E16814150733?ignorebbr=1
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113285
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231659
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178381
pcpartpicker.com/list/NYwgnH
pcpartpicker.com/user/Hipocrates1780/saved/DRk4CJ
newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487260&cm_re=6gb_1060-_-14-487-260-_-Product
newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126122&cm_re=6gb_1060-_-14-126-122-_-Product
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820225081&cm_re=patriot_burst-_-20-225-081-_-Product
techpowerup.com/244933/monsterlabo-presents-the-first-sff-pc-case-at-computex-2018
pcpartpicker.com/list/HHHygw
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

who removed logical increments from the OP

The other one was created first

Logical Increments was a good idea but the implementation is pretty poor. Builds are often pretty bad for various reasons and slow to include new hardware

yeah but they at least give a guideline and a basis that can be expanded on for each price point

No it wasn't; this one was created at 00:22 while the other one was created at 00:24. Are you stupid?

You can also order by creation date in the catalog after searching for pcbg and you can see that this thread is closer to the old thread and therefore created earlier

Retard

This version of the OP also has tiered builds, at least for gaming
>Example gaming builds and _monitor_ suggestions; click on the blue titles to see notes
pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/

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>reddit spacing

Is it a good idea at all to put my ~10 year old heatsink (Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme Rev.A, currently sitting on X4 955) on a 2700X?
Asking before I waste too much time finding out if there is a mounting kit available for it. Seems like Thermalright is offering AM4 kits for free even, but I'm not sure if they go back that far in compatibility. If they don't or the heatsink itself can't handle Ryzen then I'll just go with the stock Wraith Prism for now.

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Shill thread

is it worth upgrading from an i3-3220/4gb 1333mhz ram to xeon e3-1230v2/8gb 1600mhz ram? it will cost me around us$250 in my 3rd world shithole; programming and light online games like pubg, path of exile and cs:go that's what I'm gonna use it for

Keep in mind newfriends this is the same resident Intel shill that said 32c thread ripper 2nd Feb was a "nothingburger" and that the turbohousefire 28c Cascade lake i9 will be faster

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>is it worth upgrading from an i3-3220/4gb 1333mhz ram to xeon e3-1230v2/8gb 1600mhz ram?
Absolutely. More often than not, if there's a Xeon processor compatible with your platform, it's usually the most cost effective upgrade if you've got anything short of an i7.

This kid has a better rig than you.

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I think this kid has a skewed idea on how to use GPUs for mining...

Or you could just look at the post numbers.

A couple 1070tis are (at least currently) selling for less than a regular 1070. Im talking less well known manufacturers like inno3ds x4 or KFA2 ex, full size cards, no mini, for 470€ while a regular 1070 non ti strix, MSI Gaming or like a zotac Amp are going for 510-20€
What the fuck is up with that? Saving 40€ and getting a stronger card while just sacrificing some better cooling? Sounds too good to be true

can anyone recommend a good 1440 monitor? Preferably lower than $500 and priority to 144 refresh rate over IPS

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80-90 dollars for a psu. What to get? Seasonic, EVGA, bequiet? What models are decent or is it a tossup?

mg279q
s2716dg

hows this for 4k gaming

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Lol this shill is desperate

Yep that'll do

Why are monitors over 60Hz so desired when you most likely dont get more than 60fps in the modern games you play? Is it just an ultra high end meme or is it to hit the exact frame that has just been calculated?

Most movies are 24 Hz and 60/24 does not divide evenly. So you have two options:
a) Run your display at 24 Hz
b) Choose a multiple of 24 Hz, e.g. 144

Jow Forums approved mainboard manufacturers? Asrock any good? X370 pro4 ist decently priced atm

Movies? I never had issues with watching movies on my PC
But like thats a very niche reason to spend 200 extra especially if you probably have a bluray capable ps4 and a huge ass TV standing around

CS:Go

High refresh rate is an esports meme

>tfw can't do win7 usb-iso driver injection on crosshair 6
tried using the ez installer tool
tried injecting every possible usb3 driver from the latest chipset drivers off the support page
tried the standalone "here are some usb drivers" also from the support page
also tried disabling xhci handoff in all cases
no matter what i do m/kb do not work on the win7 install screen
does anyone know what else i should be trying? i've done this before on a different motherboard and the injection worked on the first attempt from its chipset drivers

Install GNU+Linux

There's a huge difference in overall feel and smoothness when using your pc outside of games too, which is really where you spend most of your time shitposting on Jow Forums

I need my buttery smooth shitposting

Also, if the game supports 144hz, my pc can run it at 144hz. Higher settings typically just results in eye cancer or gives you a visual disadvantage in competitive games.

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>Jow Forums approved mainboard manufacturers
They are all cost competing shit now days.

Look at individual boards rather than brands.

>brainlet posting

I have roughly $820 USD to spend
pcpartpicker.com/list/MjGPJ8
that my start, I know I haven't been able to choose much, im not sure what parts I can safely reuse from my current PC for at least a limited time so that I can get better parts. The graphics card seems good for the price and Im trying to game with high graphics with a 144 ghz monitor. I want games like over watch and the new WoW expansion to look great. I have "hybrid" hard drive ssd thing that im hoping to re use for larger storage but id like to get a real SSD as well.

Is there a difference between ryzen 2600 x and 2600 that matters?

Is running on a free windows ten inactivated a problem?

can I reuse a case? Its about 2 years old but has no issues im aware of.

Sorry, I feel really inept when it comes to this sort of thing and I really want to be able to have a build that I can enjoy. Thank you for any help, its much appreciated.

Basically flawless build tbf.
I'd only change the psu for a Seasonic Prime, but that's just because I'm a fanboy

heres the correct link I guess.
pcpartpicker.com/user/Hipocrates1780/saved/cV7kTW

also I know I wont ba able to get everything I want for 820 but I can buy more parts later I would just like to start there. Ill likely have to skip the SSD for now as an example.

>can I reuse a case? Its about 2 years old but has no issues im aware of.

The case is supposed to last you a lifetime, just give it a thorough cleaning before assembling the new parts.

What standard is it though? matx or atx?

Yeah and also you should skip the ssd for now, $98 for a 250gb is a bad deal to begin with, you should always go 500gb unless you plan to use a secondary drive for games.

And please give some more info about your system, post a speccy screenshot or take a photo of the internal components.

You can safely reuse old components if they are compatible and in good shape.

The 1060 3gb is 100 dollars cheaper than that card and runs everything today at 1080p and max-near max settings 60 fps+

Mid range cards won't really push 144hz without severely lowering settings, and if you do Nvidia cards are tried and true for max frames at lower settings than AMD cards

Why are you buying m.2? there are 500 gb SSDs for 110-120 bucks

The r5 1600 is a bit cheaper and won't bottleneck anything gaming with mid range cards

Where did this meme that an SSD is something you skip to save money come from? What the fuck? There are way better options to cheap out on than an SSD.

Because SSD is not even necessery. Who cares if your shit load 5 seconds later

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353072&cm_re=diypc_zondda-b_black_usb_3.0_mid_tower-_-11-353-072-_-Product

Its this tower. Im having a really hard time understanding which mother board and ram I should get, is 16 GB of ram good enough for what I want to do and is it fine to just go for the cheapest ram that matches the motherboard I choose?

>5 seconds later

You must be the same idiot from the last thread

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newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125881 (sale)

or

newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125901

Does the gayming version have a higher quality build or am I paying $20 more for oc that I could do myself?

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gaming one has RGB

My current build seems shit I guess, i ordered it based on bad advice i guess.
m.newegg.com/products/N82E16814150733?ignorebbr=1

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113285

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231659

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178381

The mother board is a gigabyte 970 am3+ socket, ill have to look it up.

Would you not reccomend 144hz for what im trying to do? Can I manage 120 or something maybe?

A 3gb card seems qay worse than an 8 to me. Am I just a mongoloid?
I mention saving on an ssd due to already having a hard drive I could use and a 120 gb SSD that I could use until I can afford a 500 gb drive or something. That would in effect increase my budget.

You're paying $20 more for an OC you can do yourself. Also why are you buying Gigashit? If you're going to buy nvidia, EVGA, Asus, or nothing.

My current build freeses a lot and I dont know why. Requires a restart each time.

looking for good and cheap 1.770w cooler

Sorry, thats not me (the person asking for help) as I said in another reply though, its just that I have soms other memory i can use for now. Thank you for your help.

I was recommended that card last thread. Whats wrong with gigashit? Bad customer service? Bad products? What card would you recommend then?

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You can push those high framerates in stuff like overwatch and csgo with a mid range card, but not much else.

The thing with the VRAM is that games actually have to use it for it to make a difference, which they kind of don't ((((AT 1080P)))) If you mostly just want to play overwatch and WoW 8gb of vram is absolute overkill. You might have to go from SUPER MAX ULTRA to high in some games but that's about it

Other's won't agree but I think a 120 gb is fine, they're super cheap at like 30 bucks and easy to fit in to a budget, and you can fit the OS (the most important) and maybe even a game or too (especially smaller games like overwatch) easily.

Admittedly I haven't really looked into those hybrid things, I don't know what they're like.

Also always remember to look at benchmarks and things to choose what you want yourself instead of relying on faggots here to give you accurate info. Don't take info from here at it's word.

Pic related. I've never had a single Gigabyte product that I didn't regret. Motherboards, video cards, even stupid little adapters always fail me in some way.

I think this price is around the same of yours in Maple bucks

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>FX-8320
>i ordered it based on bad advice i guess.

If you built this two years ago, then it sure was bad advice.

You cant reuse the ram unfortunately, but it still fits under the budget.
pcpartpicker.com/list/NYwgnH

You have a good core pc here, then you can just add things afterwards. You didn't include what PSU you have but I take it that it works.

That card costs $470 with shipping plus tax

way too much for my blood. i'm already going over my budget by $100 (original budget $300 but I'm thinking it's worth it going from 3gb to a 6gb). I don't think I can stomach another 100 user

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is it worth it to get an aftermarket cooler for an r9 290? the middle fan started rattling lately

So I'm completing my build, and I noticed that one of my top exhaust fans is partially obstructed by the fan + radiator combo I have at the rear.

This is definitely a product of having such a compact case. Could this be an issue down the line?

pcpartpicker.com/user/Hipocrates1780/saved/DRk4CJ this is my current build (I think) it says that it has a problem? if im dealing with this problem now how would I know? Thank you again for your help.

>pcpartpicker.com/list/NYwgnH
I do have a working PSU but its like way overkill im certain and id like to get a higher quality one, I belive this is my current build
pcpartpicker.com/user/Hipocrates1780/saved/DRk4CJ

Unless they actually clash, it's just going to slightly reduce the fan's performance. You're probably good.

It was like, early 2016?
thank you for the suggestion.

If that problem was affecting you your PC wouldn't boot.

I didn't realize it was that much more in Canada.Well if you have no choice, you can always go with the single fan version of the EVGA 1060. Has a boost of 1708MHz.


>EVGA Single fan cooler
newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487260&cm_re=6gb_1060-_-14-487-260-_-Product

>Asus dual fan card - boost of 1800MHz
newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126122&cm_re=6gb_1060-_-14-126-122-_-Product

I got these from the CA version of Newegg this time

Thank you, that was what I was expecting.

Guys I need some help.

I don't think most guides work for me because in my small country there's a very limited selection and prices are steep.

I have some money saved and I did ran into an interesting add for a year old used PC

Intel i7-6700K ||
Cooler Master Seidon 120v
Radeon RX 480 (Sapphire Nitro+ 4GB) ||
Gigabyte H110N Mini-ITX ||
8GB Kingston HyperX ||
Kingston v300 120GB ||
Toshiba 1TB (7200rpm) ||
Antec ISK600 (mITX) ||


My friend who builds PCs for friends says buying used is a fucking terrible idea. Instead he suggested a similarly priced alternative, which is an i3 8300 and a GTX 1050, but with no SSD

>It was like, early 2016?

FX had been dead for years, Skylake had rolled out and Haswell was on constant sale.

God damn fanboys shitting up peoples builds. At least Ryzen is good but holy shit was that constant policing back in the day annoying.

And yeah that psu is good, overkill for sure but it werks. Next step is a large, good SSD.

we were supposed to be done with this shit by now.
make it stop anons. plis.

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Ill put the SSD off until I have the money. Thank you for your help.

don't worry

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great even psu makers are catering to wannabe miners now.
the ride never ends.

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newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820225081&cm_re=patriot_burst-_-20-225-081-_-Product I have this SSD and I cant add it to a parts list on the part picker website? anyone know why?

hello guise, would you recommend either x370 or x470 mobo for a ryzen 2600?

Definitely get the new stuff, budget permitting.

Get the X470 so you don't have trouble with the BIOS.

Bitcoin is unrelated to GPU mining user.

Are budget SSD's a meme? If not, what are some good brands?

Depends how budget
ADATA SU800 as cheapest.
Everything else outside Kingston SSDs is great in the middle.
860 EVO for the gold standard.

I assume a Ryzen 5 1600 is fine for 120hz at 1080p?

Looking at buying a 1070 instead of a 1060 so that I only need to get a 120hz monitor when I buy a new one, likely soon.

Also do Palit GPUs have any reliability/cooling issues or are they decent?

browsing through computex stuffs.
wtf is this from seasonic?
got it from oc.net thread, couldn't find anything else on google yet.

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techpowerup.com/244933/monsterlabo-presents-the-first-sff-pc-case-at-computex-2018

that's embarassing. I only saw the watermark when I opened the pic in here.

L shaped water distribution plate.
kinda smart, probably expensive as fuck.

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the complete product, I'm assuming it comes with a case, looks fugly. I liked the concept of the L shaped water plate though.

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I've got 500 bucks to spend on amazon for an entry level gaming pc (monitor + tower), any suggestions?
inb4 buy a ps4
I'm running a 24" 8bit 1920x1080 60 hz with an amd apu sporting a radeon r5 ( it's an imac look-alike from hp from couple years ago).

Passive cooling system, presumably. Or "less active" anyways.

That's dope, though it'd be relatively easy to construct something functionally similar yourself I suppose.

holy fug.
ddr4 5000mhz.
that'll be upwards of 1k for sure.

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i meant per stick, and yet I still feel like I'm being overly conservative.

I installed a new motherboard, cpu and ram last night and noticed a strong coil noise. Only new mobile part is the AMD Wraith Spire cooler, does anyone else get audibly buzzing coil whine with it?

It's weird how silverstobne and lian li faded into the background so hard. They used to be the blindly go to brands for premium things pre 2010. They're barely ever mentioned nowadays.

did anyone else spend a bunch because ebay is 20% off?

>5000mhz ram
I prefer my lifetime warranty tyvm

My disabled younger brother wanted my help building a computer. I've asked him to research and design a build to the best of his capabilities, he came up with this build as a result.
pcpartpicker.com/list/HHHygw

I can't seem to find anything wrong with it (It'll just be for basic 1080p gaming I think?) but does anyone here have any suggestions. He does tend to struggle with working memory so I don't know if he'd be the best at comparing components to each other.

I'd appreciate any advice

By the way, I'm giving him my old video card (Radeon r9 380) so modifying that isn't really an option

fucking hell, another one.
and lol, those colorful motherboards look like a bad joke.

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>Full PCIe x16 ports instead x4 ports
Why? sounds like a stupid design, its a mining board after all.

CPU is shit, get a 1600/2600, even a 2200G makes more sense.
You dont need thermal paste, also not overpriced one out all things.
DO NOT BUY A320 motherboards.
Get a Corsair 200R, cheaper case.
Remove windows.

somehow I feel like those biostar and asrock have better appeal towards retards. Kinda because it looks less daunting than pci risers and specialty connectors mess. They're going for the low hanging and late fruit after all.

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i've read a lot of good stuff about the Kingston, what makes it worse than the Samsung Evo

I'm looking for a 1080p, < 23", 60hz, IPS monitor. I have always gone with something from Dell's lineup because I like the colors, but I was wondering if anyone else offers anything comparable to Dell's P series or ultrasharp monitors these days.