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>recommending 8700k

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Go away shill

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This. OP should have recommended 8086k

(Make up your fucking mind about which thread, I don't know where to post my question. You're all shills anyway)
Is it a good idea at all to put my ~10 year old heatsink (Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme Rev.A, currently sitting on X4 955) on a 2700X?
Asking before I waste too much time finding out if there is a mounting kit available for it. Seems like Thermalright is offering AM4 kits for free even, but I'm not sure if they go back that far in compatibility. If they don't or the heatsink itself can't handle Ryzen then I'll just go with the stock Wraith Prism for now.

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Why not just buy a new one you know will fit?

>Recommending housefires

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Because it's an excellent chunk of metal and it would be a waste not to use it if it can still serve its purpose.

>Mfw I know a guy that looks like that but has freckles.

Shit man he's a fucking nerd too

marry him

>66239419
I doubt it'll be worth it, the Prism performs like a H7 Quad Lumi
hardocp.com/article/2018/05/15/amd_wraith_prism_cpu_air_cooler_review/3

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Seasonic if possible, EVGA is a close second sometimes selling rebranded Seasonic PSUs

20 dollar machine for running Pure Data, how

Everything looks good but the H7, the Prism is better

I want to build a dabtastic pc, how?

ebay.com/itm/AMD-Athlon-II-X4-630-2-8Ghz-Quad-Core-64-Desktop-Tower-PC-GeForce-6150-2GB-160GB/192552252826

Damn! Tips for searching?

What graphics card(s) would be optimal for dual 1080p monitors?

Drooling over the 1080, but wondering if it's really necessary.

a 550W psu is enough even for a vega56/1080ti right? but what if the psu has multiple rails, like the be quiet! straight power 11 that i'm thinking of buying which has 12V1 - 18A; 12V2 - 18A; 12V3 - 20A and 12V4 - 20A rails?
if i wanted to buy an rx580, which can draw allot of wattage depending on the model, would these rails be enough to power it?

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It might be enough but ideally you'd want to double the required wattage, be quiet PSUs are decent but Seasonic is generally cheaper and better

the main reason i'm thinking of buying a be quiet! is because it's supposedly very quiet even under load. should i go for a BitFenix whisper M 650W instead which has 30A rails?

If gaming in both the 1060/1070 or 580 seems to be enough, if it's for basic use you could cheap out a lot more

They don't seem to be that much quieter, I'd trust Seasonic over Bitfenix or be quiet

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Just to clarify you're looking at this
kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon/be-quiet-straight-power-11-1000w-power-supply-review/5/
kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-fx-850w-psu-review/5/

>ideally you'd want to double the required wattage

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Technically enough, yes. Especially if you undervolt the Vega56. It only uses around what a higher clocked RX580 model uses then.

Vega56 draws about 180-200w undervolted stock, and around 230w undervolted+overclocked.
If you run at the stock voltage, it can be like 300w in some cases, iirc. That's abit much of a 550w to handle.

It's called efficiency user

You're dumb.

System isn't going to run at peak wattage the entire time.
And the efficiency curve on most PSUs is usually something like 95% peak efficiency at 20% load, and 95% again at 80% load.
So at 80% load you aren't losing out on much efficiency on a good PSU.

>implying 580 is a good reference on efficiency
kek, look at this shill

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>So at 80% load you aren't losing out on much efficiency on a good PSU.
Hence the "ideally"

I didn't say it was, you stupid shill. Read what I was responding to.
I just gave another example of a GPU that runs fine on a 550w PSU. Since Vega 56 and 1080Ti hardly use more power than an RX580, they can technically run on such a PSU.

I'd generally recommend 650w if buying new, but 550w should be doable.

Ideal you don't spend twice as much on a PSU to save 50 cents per month on electricity.
I only recommend spending more on PSU because you want it efficient enough for the fan to rarely if ever turn on, longevity, etc. The difference between 91.5% efficiency and 94% at a given load is nothing. Especially since your system will rarely if ever be at peak load, especially if you use something like Radeon Chill.

This is why I (and most?) recommend you just get a quality PSU around 20% higher than your peak load, with typical load more around the 50% mark, and idle around the 10-20% mark.

>spend an extra $100 on a PSU to save $5 a year in electricity

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The Straight Power 11 550W is more expensive than the Focus Plus Gold 750W
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA68V6SK1580
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151187

And you can often get a gold rated semi-modular for $35 on sale.

For high end builds, I recommend that 650W Seasonic platinum rated when it's on sale for $80-$90 over the Focus Plus Gold. IIRC, it actually meets the titanium spec but titanium didn't exist at the time.

Also as far as I can tell, the user already has the 550w be quiet PSU. And may not have paid $85 for it.

nope, i don't have it yet and in my country it is a bit expensive at 100€ but then what isn't expensive in my country. a fucking rx570 4gb is 350€ and then they wonder why ppl mostly buy things from other EU countries.

>like the be quiet! straight power 11 that i'm thinking of buying
The Seasonic Platinum 750W costs $13 more than the Straight Power 11 650W so it's far from twice as much though I do like the name
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151191&cm_re=focus_platinum_750w-_-17-151-191-_-Product

In that case I'd get the Focus Plus Gold 650 or 750
de.pcpartpicker.com/products/power-supply/#X=0,9666&e=6,5,4&p=1&sort=price&page=1

will look into it some more, thx for the help guys

just one more question, if a psu has 30A(360W) on one rail is it ok to use one PCIe 8-pin power cable from the PSU that splits into two 6 + 2 PCIe connectors on my gpu which has an 8 and a 6-pin requirement (it's an asus hd5850 that i'm replacing when the gpu prices go down).

Woman spoted

and 1.7 kw cooler HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Any good ram under $200 for a ryzen 2700? i was going to get a ryzen 2600 but with the ebay 20% discount getting a 2700 there is cheapter than buying a 2600 where i live.
I think the ideal is 3200 c14 but i don't think i can afford that, how is 3200 c16? or 3000 c15?

8086k is a better binned 8700k. It's not the 28 core one.
ark.intel.com/products/148263/Intel-Core-i7-8086K-Processor-12M-Cache-up-to-5_00-GHz

Silverstone is funny making a successor to the FT-03? Looks cute. Can't find good pictures, though.

Do you not have any PSU options around 70euro that aren't shit?

1770w

Any 3000 CL15 or 3200 CL16 is the budget option if you don't want to spend the extra for B-Die. Those should be around $150-$175.

so it needs half of 1.77kw
1770 w is not 1.7 kw ?

You can tweak the timings more on a lower latency kit like this one
pcpartpicker.com/product/s898TW/gskill-tridentz-series-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c14d-16gtzsk
CL15/16 kits are still good options
pcpartpicker.com/product/LGJtt6/gskill-sniper-x-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-16gsxfb

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That's what I wonder, Ultra-120 Extreme was for a longest time the unsurpassed king of coolers around the Phenom II era. It's no longer being tested, but I wonder how much improvement there could have really been since then?
Also X4 955 is 125W TDP while 2700X is 105W. My 955 is running at 25C idle right now in a modern spacious case, that's literally the room temperature here.

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Looking to replace most of my PC parts because I fell for the AMD meme. I have a 1440p monitor and am looking to play games at solid 60fps. Any changes you'd recommend to these parts?:
GeForce GTX 1070 Ti
Intel Core i5 8400
ASRock Z370 Killer SLI Motherboard
SeaSonic 650W ATX12V/EPS12V

>ASRock

Nothing wrong with ASRock

Should I get a EVGA 780 for 115$ or less? I need a graphics card for an EGPU now and a desktop later

So I have been doing some research.

I found a few reasons to go for Intel system:

1) got integrated graphics in case I don't have money to buy a graphics card right now or i want to wait till prices come down(new gen coming soon?)

2) optane support (in case i need it in future)

3) Games seems to be better optimized for Intel systems

I do want to go AMD way but it needs a dedicated graphics card unless i go with R5 2400G which is not as powerful in CPU intensive task. BTW I am looking at either i5 8400 or Ryzen 5 2600. Motherboard compatibility till 2020 sounds good in AMD though.

I wasn't aware of it, it looks good. You might be lucky
>There will be two different kits, one for the coolers of the Macho and True Spirit series, one for Archon, Silver Arrow and the discontinued models, like the HighRiser or Ultra-series models.
Though I can't find information about the older mount kit on their current site
thermalright.de/en/custom/index/sCustom/45
thermalright.com/2017/02/21/thermalright-amd-am4-cpu-mount-upgrade/

You'd be better off with the iGPU of the 2400G or getting a 1030/1050 with the 2600 until you save up for a better GPU

It finally arrived

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For $50 this thing is fucking massive

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$300 for maximum autism with the RX580 8GB Nitro + Special Edition in the pretty LBGT friendly blue
or I save $100 and get RX570 4GB.

Meh I have so much money that $100 doesn't even matter but I still beat myself up over these decision.

you gonna slap two fans on it?

Yeah probably, the reviews said it only came with 2 clips to attach a single fan, this one came with 4 and a free pair of anti static gloves that arent mentioned in any reviews, among other things it was supposed to come with like the magnetic long screwdriver, pretty sweet

>decide on a 2700X
>can't decide between all the X470 boards
fuck me who has a board that will not gimp my chances of getting 3200MHz ram up and running stable

Avoid gigabyte and MSI at all costs

neat

X470 Aorus Ultra looks decent other than this , I'd go with Asus either the Prime X470-Pro or the more expensive ones. Check Newegg and Microcenter for bundles

> got integrated graphics in case
iGPU in anything other than an APU relegates you to 720p lowest settings or facebook games. Even APUs aren't meant for 'real' gaming.
>optane support
Optane support isn't for mainstream use so I'm not sure what benefit you're looking to get out of it.
>Games seems to be better optimized for Intel systems
Literally the only reason to buy Intel and even then the difference is 5-10 frames due to GPU bottlenecks at every resolution that matters.

Msi is based though and makes the best budget mobos.
>but muh 3 phase asrock

Their customer service and their QA is the worst in the industry, there is nothing "based" about them

Your opinion really isn't any more valid or credible than mine. Have you ever owned an msi mobo? I have two and love them

pcpartpicker.com/product/PTfmP6/powercolor-radeon-rx-580-8gb-red-devil-video-card-axrx-580-8gbd5-3dhoc

pcpartpicker.com/product/y2DzK8/sapphire-radeon-rx-580-8gb-pulse-video-card-11265-05

pcpartpicker.com/product/gjM323/xfx-radeon-rx-580-8gb-gts-black-core-edition-video-card-rx-580p828d6

Which one would you get?

Red Devil at $305 is a no brainer

Get the Nitro+ special for $300.
From Newegg, sold through ebay.
PICKDADSGIFT is the code to get 80% off and it winds up being a little under $300.

What's wrong with Gigabyte? Meh BIOS aside.

If you want a cheaper model, ebay.com/itm/XFX-AMD-Radeon-RX-580-GTS-XXX-Edition-8GB-GDDR5-PCI-Express-3-0-Graphics-Card/202308906540?epid=245236870&hash=item2f1a8cee2c:g:ayQAAOSwDvVa8zYQ is $255.20 with the code.

And $209.60 for RX570 4GB.
ebay.com/itm/AMD-Radeon-RX-570-RS-XXX-Edition-RX-570P4DFD6-4GB-Graphic-Card/153051225658?epid=238714329&hash=item23a2905e3a:g:CHYAAOSwHPNbDMz~

MSI is much better on the 400 series boards. I would recommend when it comes to cheap options.

My normal recommendation is:
MSI Plus/pro for cheapest.
ASRock X470 Master for best value midrange
Crosshair for $$$.

A V O I D

This chick did great PC building videos. What's she up to now?

Looks like Newegg just dropped their Red Devil price on ebay as well for the sale.

$256 with the code
ebay.com/itm/PowerColor-RED-DEVIL-Radeon-RX-580-DirectX-12-AXRX-580-8GBD5-3DH-OC-8GB-256-Bit/382379707179?hash=item59079b4b2b:g:aXAAAOSwWv5Z9JJS
Guess I'm getting this one myself. That's actually $4 below MSRP.

nvm that's not the golden sample. fuck.
ebay.com/p/AMD-RX-580-8gb-PowerColor-Red-Devil-Golden-Radeon/781309744?iid=292564288837&_trkparms=aid=888007&algo=DISC.MBE&ao=1&asc=50543&meid=1619af850a264731a2c48f4ae2b9cdc8&pid=100009&rk=1&rkt=2&sd=382379707179&itm=292564288837&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982
280 for the golden sample.

But frankly not sure that shit is worth the power consumption.

Just bought this one, exactly the kind of deal I was waiting for, thanks user.

$256 for a 580 8gb with the red devil cooler is a solid value, do it

I believe Rose finished her Master in Physics last year, not sure what she's doing now...

pretty much a toss up between asus crosshair and asrock whatever considering the taichi is $100 cheaper than the crosshair
not too concerned about VRMs as such but memory compatibility/XMP

Np.
I just bought the same one but used for a little less.

Yeah, the non-GS one for 256 is probably the best absolute deal. But my autism makes me attracted to the higher end models. I know this Special will have good resale value as it's the most coveted RX580.

I also saw decent deals on RX570s. I think there's the strix 570 for like $216 after the code.
There's also some XFX models sold through ebay from best buy that are good deals.
And there's some cheaper shit if you "buy it now" on used ones like I did.

Another noteworthy deal is 2400G for $131.
You can make a pretty good complete system with a 500GB nice SSD for like $450 or less.

Taichi is cheaper but Crosshair is just plain better.

im running overclocked 3200 MHz ram on my gigabyte board.

2400 -> 3200

I just got all my shit yesterday besides my SSD. I bought
pcpartpicker.com/product/TWzkcf/gigabyte-x470-aorus-ultra-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-x470-aorus-ultra-gaming
And
pcpartpicker.com/product/cWH48d/gskill-trident-z-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-16gtzsw
Though I don't have an OS yet I was able to get into the bios and set the ram to 3200mhz just by checking the xmp option. Please excuse my camera that's having issues and also my shitty phoneposting.

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>She moved on, yet the nerds on Jow Forums still fantasize about her actually being male in their basements
Like pottery

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Anyone have recommendations for a RELIABLE cable modem? My speeds are sub-100Mbps but I want something that won't require weekly resets to be unfucked after only 2 years.

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I need a moba/mmo mouse, corsair scimitar or razer naba?