This thread is about the appreciation of watches and horology, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a fine watch, clock, or other timepiece.
I place 'affordable' divers as all the non-MM divers, all the ones with 7S or cheap solar movements. All the ones that have slid seiko's reputation with iffy finishing, misaligned chapter rings, and slowly declining movement quality.
It's not that they've made bad watches, but when you look at both samurais, the sumo, the god-forsaken monster, and even the poor 007 and turtle, you can very easily see the compromises taken and the flaws apparent. Regarding the Samurai, the 1st version had badly finished lugs and the titanium was easily scratched, but the dial didn't fade too horribly and the 7S used was still somewhat robust. Ver 2 has worse finishing, a crown that sticks out oddly withing the guards, and the 4R just seems like a slightly lower quality version of what the late 90s 7S was as the 7S was relegated to the malay machine made bottom barrel. But the ver 2 Samurai's dial and bezel look great and of the ones I've seen, probably 80%+ have good chapter rings.
IMO, the Stargate 1 was the last watch they actually gave a fuck about start-to-finish and this is apparent in its overall quality and lack of fickle compromises.
And for some reason, they are content to keep on keeping on with the SPB051 and the 061 with the crummy monster handset and overcharging for what is the currently best version of their cheapest automatic movement architecture.
Every time I see this fat fuck I wish he'd have a stroke already. Not just us he nasty to look at his voice is grating to listen too, compounding his shit opinions.
Got a gold solid link bracelet for the gold Citizen. Can't take a picture now because I destroyed my chinkphone in a fit of rage after the battery went dead on me again. Now I have a $20 dumbphone and I'm not even sure I want to buy another botnet phone with a one day battery life anymore.
Work has been kinda shitty nowadays, I keep realizing how awful people are. Customers keep pushing me around, or threatening to report me to consumer protection when I declare their flooded shitter unsalvageable. I heard last week a customer was screaming at the girls because I'm not in the shop on fucking a Sunday and they can't give his watch out (that's job is mine and mine only to prevent any fuckups). So they tried calling me but my phone was dead (one of the reasons I wrecked my phone, I couldn't leave it alone for a day without it dying), and this turned out to be a huge problem, that I can't be reached for any kind of emergency on my ONE day off. Since Saturday is a workday for me, and I'm on the road to the parts supplier on Mondays. And when my shift ends at 18:00 I still have lazy dumbfucks BEGGING me for service at 18:30, and like a fucking beta loser I cave in EVERY FUCKING TIME.
TL;DR: I'm miserable, I hate technology, I hate shitter watches and I hate people.
I really like them but its a little dressy. I already have shit quartz that fits that role.
Nathan Parker
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Jose Myers
I have like 3 smartphones that I don't use laying around user.
I might give you one
Connor Jenkins
I just need to learn how to stop letting myself be pushed around, and stop caving in to everything just for the sake of keeping the peace. I don't take conflict too well.
Nah, I'm sick of them. You wind a forty year old Raketa and it goes for 40 hours, but a new $400 phone lasts 12 on a full charge, partly because all the background bloat botnet shit. It's getting fucking ridiculous.
Yeah, that's why he started buying and defending IWC's and TAG HUEHUE's of all fucking things. Archie's a marketing cuck who has been reduced to sucking shitter dick for bail money. LMAO
Jose Murphy
That sounds pretty fair if it's just a flat fee desu, what was it before? Import taxes in some countries are retardedly high.
Unless you mean 10% even on like a $2 Ali Express shitty item from China.
Tyler Jones
It's from AM watches.
Brandon Martinez
It was 10% on orders >$1000, now its everything. Even $2 items from China. There's absolutely no reason behind it, its purely lobbied for and implemented by Gerry Harvey and his mates in the liberal party, so that his retail monopoly can keep ripping people off with government protection against the free market.
Thomas Butler
>the 4R just seems like a slightly lower quality version of what the late 90s 7S was as the 7S was relegated to the malay machine made bottom barrel I've never heard this one before. Why would you think that the 7Sxx is materially worse than it used to be, or that the 4Rxx isn't a significant improvement over it?
>SBDC051 Those are priced on the level of external finishing they receive, not the movement. Their cases and bracelets are made by the same Seiko division that makes some of Grand Seiko cases, and, as I recall there is even a bit of spinning tin disk polishing done to them. Models in that SARx/SBDx tier are all designed around offering levels of external finishing usually found in much more expensive watches at a cheaper price point by using a cheaper movement.
Henry Jackson
>It was 10% on orders >$1000, now its everything. That's fucking crazy that it was that lax but I guess it's because you guys are in a situation where you have to import a bunch of shit so it makes sense.
How big is your wrist? The lug to lug on the SKX isn't that long.
Benjamin Cooper
Nice Citizens and you have my sympathies in dealing with bullshit.
Isaiah Jones
Its because 75% of products of almost any kind are not available here. This new law is just fucking consumers so that 25% of overpriced retail can continue to be as overpriced as it is
>national provenance is more important than merits no
Thomas Taylor
the m1 also has a gas operated rotating bolt. The AK uses a long stroke gas piston which is most assuredly outdated and not functionally relevant today. The Amphibia is the AK of the watch world you pleb.
Imagine seeing a lanky nerdy faggot in the subway taking a pic of his own cheap watch, kek.
Noah Russell
>the m1 also has a gas operated rotating bolt. And?
>The AK uses a long stroke gas piston Yes and no. Gases are vented after like an inch of travel which suggests short-stroke, but the piston stays attached throughout which suggests long stroke.
> long stroke gas piston which is most assuredly outdated No. Plenty of modern guns still use long-stroke, even ones that were very recently designed like the Tavor.
>The Amphibia is the AK of the watch world you pleb. It's more like the Mosin Nagant 91/30; Russian, crudely made and functionally obsolete.
Jacob Mitchell
Nice doublepenis
Brayden Gray
You took a wrist shot while standing on the fucking subway lol. Well anyway have a nice gloomy day m8
Nathaniel Jenkins
Tavor is based on the AK is not that recently designed and that does not make it modern. A new mauser pattern bolt action designed last year is not a modern design. Also you are a retard and wills top being fed
Joseph Stewart
>not that recently designed Lmao, stop squirming.
Charles Hill
>Everyone People who actually own guns disagree.
Nolan Bennett
Gas yourself
Jackson Brown
I just ordered pic related to add a chrono to my collection. That Seagullanon better not have memed me into buying a total shitter.
Next time, BEFORE you get emotionally invested in an argument, ask yourself "do I actually know enough about this topic to take a position either way?". It'll save you from future embarrassment.
Daniel Lee
Post guns, and post your reasons why.
Hudson Peterson
Its a piece of shit Israeli gun designed in the 90s based on piston designs from the 30's and 40's. Sure its a bullpup but I wouldn't call it a modern battle rifle.
Gavin Campbell
Because your argument is retarded and I too believe the amphibia would be a better comparison to an AK
>Its a piece of shit Israeli gun designed in the 90s based on piston designs from the 30's and 40's Stop squirming. In terms of guns, being released in the early 2000s is as modern as it gets; see the FN2000, HK416, etc.
Many service rifles today are much older (incl. M16), and a large portion have long-stroke piston designs; like the FNC, SG 550, RK 62, ...
>I wouldn't call it a modern battle rifle That's because it's not a battle rifle.
Liam Fisher
>no timestamp >possible airshit >zero arguments
Try better.
Austin Barnes
When will divers go out of fashion? If they never existed and someone designed one today they would be laughed at.
Easton Hall
hk416 is far lighter and more modern using a short stroke gas piston system and is not at all comparable to a tavor.
Well i mis-remembered that one point but the more important point of the technical difference between the two which was the basis of the argument is a point you ignored you brainlet.
Jordan Fisher
Not him but you can get this beauty for less than seagull now.
Henry Diaz
Isn't it pretty difficult not to get a Ukrainian franken with those though?
Anthony Hill
>technical difference between the two What about it?
Elijah Rivera
*can't
Matthew Wilson
> If they never existed and someone designed one today they would be laughed at. Obviously, because now these """tool watches""" are useless since we have dive computers. But in the past even if they didn't exist, someone was going to make them anyway: water resistant timekeeping technology was needed. >When will divers go out of fashion? When Rolex,Omega,Seiko and any other very popular brands that make this type of watches will go out of fashion/stop existing, maybe. Therefore, they never will, at least in the next century(?).
Luke Williams
Same here, I actually stopped scrolling to check this thread out from recognizing that crazy dude who does luxury watch reviews. Really took me back to old Jow Forums
All the Sturmanskies I can see are more expensive by a fair amount. Also the 1963 is new, not used.
Elijah Rivera
>The absolute state of no guns
Nolan Clark
Any recommendations for my dad? I want get him a proper watch. Nothing fancy, just something that is an actual watch and not a piece of shit watch shaped object like he usually wears (pic related) He is 60 and never owned a decent watch.