>Q2 2017 Highest Intel core count on the consumer end is 10 cores / 20 threads >Ryzen and Threadripper Happen
Now in the same year AMD is going to be offering us a 32 core CONSUMER chip while intel has plans to offer us a 28 core chip @5GHz across all cores. Is this not legitimately a wonderful time to be alive for those interested in having the highest end consumer systems they can?
There's so much shilling on the internet for AMD or for Intel, but no matter who is better or worse we've finally reached a position where we're actually getting some fucking benefits. I've never felt so excited by new products being offered by both Intel and AMD. We got Intel Processors with Vega Graphics on board, Intel is soon going to join the GPU game and perhaps succeed in challenging Nvidia where AMD is failing. When was the last time there was anything this exciting happening in the consumer PC space?
Yeah, it's great. We would still have quad cores on the mainstream too. It's hilarious how Intel is dropping Xeons to the consumer market, they're scared shitless of TR2.
>Intel is soon going to join the GPU game and perhaps succeed in challenging Nvidia where AMD is failing No fucking chance anytime soon. You have no idea how much magic is done with the drivers per software, they would need to do literally everything AMD and Nvidia have done for years just to be considered on the playing field.
Jason Jackson
how providing a nuclear reactor is a wonderfull time?
Henry Young
180 - 250W CPUs aren't nuclear reactors user. But also
>Not owning a Nuclear Reactor if you could
Pleb
Austin Rivera
i doubt that 28 core will 250 watts user more like 2500watts
Cooper Harris
yeah, if they could lower the prices for RAM and GPU that would be the perfect time.
Julian Ross
>MORE CORES autism
this is the worst timeline
Anthony Lee
i am glad for innovation but the core thing is getting stupid. i have trouble maxing my i7 7700...
Colton Lewis
>while intel has plans to offer us a 28 core chip @5GHz across all cores Do they actually plan to offer this? I thought this was proven to just be a publicity stunt to save face by overclocking an already existing $10,000 Skylake-X Xeon with unsustainable methods?
Levi Miller
Their Integrated graphics work pretty well with a lot more stability, unfortunately performance-watt sucks shit compared to AMD and Nvidia on the high end, can't scale for shit.
Ian Anderson
>intel has plans to offer us a 28 core chip @5GHz across all cores you are seriously fucking delusional if you think that this will reach 5GHz without some absolute power draining cooling system.
Gavin Martinez
1990's me would have been salivating at the idea of having so much power in a chip.
Today? Where the hell is the desktop software that lets me take advantage of this if I'm not into video rendering or 3d modeling? Seems like a lot of functionality has moved to the web for the sake of it.
It was just a publicity stunt. Intel demoed a rebranded 28 core server CPU at 5ghz because they wanted the headline "Intel demos future 5Ghz 28-core CPU" and they got some blind idiots to bite but people are looking into the bullshit that is the one-off 29 phase motherboards and the 1.7kw water chiller.
Connor Baker
>Where the hell is the desktop software that lets me take advantage It's waiting for you to write it, user
Ian Cooper
If I am able to achieve 5GHz on 28 cores using liquid cooling and not LN2, then I don't really care about the power usage so long as I can keep the thing under control.
Camden Parker
Benchmarks brah
Michael Rogers
Thanks for reminding me that I'm a code monkey for a living.
std::thread and related libs are bretty gud, but hell if I'm going to whip that old codebase into making good use of it.
Exactly what I thought. The whole time I was watching that live stream with that little PC case on stage I was scratching my head. I'm no AMD fanatic, but Christ do they deserve to tread all over Intel's HEDT market. I'm certain the only people who by X299 platforms are "techtubers" who insist on flagship Intel processors who only specialise in aesthetic builds.
Hunter Gonzalez
Games that go beyond 32vs32? (Planetside 2 example)
Virtual realty? Honestly the only reason I'm looking forward to hardware development is VR.
Connor Bell
>I don't really care about the power usage You'll care when it takes the better part of a 1600w PSU just for the CPU >so long as I can keep the thing under control Intel themselves with nearly unlimited resources couldn't design a rig that could cool 28 cores at 5ghz without the use of a compresser. You are not going to be able to make a water cooling loop that can deal with that heat density.
Nathan Hall
US wall plugs max out at 1200W don't they?
Samuel Watson
US wall plugs and breakers are usually rated at least 15 amps or around 1800w assuming a full 120v. Newer houses have 20 amp plugs and breakers which give you 2400w again assuming the full 120V
Evan Bailey
try compiling something some time
John Rivera
20+ Eve accounts. I got 8, going 10. Already I am hurting with a Ryzen R7 1700. I can already justify a Threadripper if I want 16 or 20+.
Jonathan Miller
it's good that more corez is becoming increasingly mainstream but you're only comparing the last couple years to the preceding five in which case of course it's more interesting, that period was the single worst in the history of the pc.
Christopher Hernandez
You don't seem to understand the situation Intel is in. This was all a PR stunt to show the shareholders they do have something to compete against Threadripper while distracting their colossal 10nm failure of more than 5 years now. This product does not exist, it's a Xeon platinum refurbished to desktop with cooling dissipating up to 1700W.
Tyler Reyes
Ah ok, I was under the impression for some reason that the US uses 10A at the wall.
Jonathan Long
Having more cores is always better no matter what. Browsers, compiling, decompressing and compressing, enthusiast video decoding, running multiple programs at the same time, etc. are all things use, at least those in 4chins.
Dominic Kelly
More cores autism is a good thing unless you're a gaymur
Hunter Barnes
A lot of countries on 220-250VAC are rated for 10A. That's probably where your confusion comes from.
Joseph Johnson
You know that you can use use software together, right? Instead of closing everything to run something heavy.
Carson Rogers
E5-2697 V2 is 12C/24T and for the HEDT x79
Parker Jenkins
My 220V breaker is 30A per AC, Smallest 110V breaker for just the lights is 20A
Juan Bell
So Intel did make the PowerPC 970 and the FX 9590 look like Winters in Siberia and Minnesota respectively.
Isaiah Hill
Gonna make the leap to AMD
Matthew Powell
>5ghz >he fell for a marketing stunt base clock is 2.7ghz
Oliver Clark
>intel has plans to offer us a 28 core chip @5GHz across all cores Except this won't happen because that shit was a refurbished enterprise CPU which requires insane cooling to keep itself above 4GHz, let alone 5GHz. The actual clock of Xeons is between 2 and 2.5GHz so don't expect anything more on consumer desktops.
Anything above 100W doesn't belong on consumer desktops.
Jonathan Smith
I wonder if 2gen TR will have something like the 1950 where two dies do nothing. The whole "Some aren't directly connected to memory" I'm not certain about. Would suck if the 16c/32t version of 2nd gen TR has four active cores in each die and eight of them go through the IF to talk to the RAM.
Alexander Miller
Will Intel ship that 3 horsepower cooler they used in the demos or will they still have the nerve to ship that dinky hunk of aluminum?
How dumb do you have to be to fall for Intel's PR stunt with their 28 core "5GHz" CPU? They've proven their 10nm node is not ready by releasing that one 10nm Core i3 that's garbage, so a 28-core would obviously be in their 14nm node, as it would be impossible to harvest a 28-core CPU from their 10nm yields. We already know what their 14nm++ node is capable of, and it certainly isn't capable of 5GHz across 28 cores without it being cherry picked, overclocked and cooled to extremes.