/gtg/ - Jow Forumsternet General

Alternative Internet General Edition

What is Jow Forumsternet?
mesh.gentoo.today/wiki/Purpose
Jow Forumsternet would be our own decentralized p2p network running on our own infrastructure, totally disconnected from the clearnet.
It will be a combination of DIY meshnets on a city wide basis, and a platform for interconnecting these city wide meshnets over p2p openvpn bridges and high powered wireless dishes for City to City relays.
The Inter-Meshnet part of the project will allow any existing DIY meshnets to join our network by adding a bridge node or a city to city relay.
The short term goal is to have a few anons set up their own local meshnet and link them together using the bridges as a proof of concept.
A long term goal is gain a large enough user density that we can disable the brige nodes and have our own decentralized network idependent of the internet.
>tl;dr we're gonna connect city meshes through the internet until we have enough people to disconnect from the internet entirely

Talk about:
>Finding friends to link with
>Linking meshes over VPN
>Decentralization/distribution of all layers of protocol, from network itself to end-user applications
Please try to keep names/logos to a minimum.

Links:
>Map (for finding all your Jow Forumsternet pals and establishing nodes): zeemaps.com/view?group=2784880
>IRC (contains news, it's the best way to talk to the dev (knots)): irc.jollo.org SSL port 9999, channel #gternet
>Wiki (read and edit it): mesh.gentoo.today
>Git (sign up and contribute): git.gternet.me
>Previous threads: qt.catbox.moe/4c6fb8
>Pastebin: qt.catbox.moe/638937

Protocol: BATMAN-adv for now using IPv6

Every well-intentioned contribution is valuable! Get your friends and neighbours in on this.

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Other urls found in this thread:

zeemaps.com/view?group=2784880
gternet.byethost8.com/map_old.php
zeemaps.com/view?group=2787145
gternet.byethost8.com/map_new.php
github.com/mwarning/KadNode
twitter.com/AnonBabble

Dude, you'll get more bumps if you call it Alternative Internet General, and the title is perfectly compatible.

Gay

Sage

>And please call it Alternative Internet General this time.
Completely ignored. Laughed my ass off.

Old thread: Relevant links in case of map problems:
>Old map
zeemaps.com/view?group=2784880 (working)
gternet.byethost8.com/map_old.php (readonly)

>New map
zeemaps.com/view?group=2787145 (frozen)
gternet.byethost8.com/map_new.php (readonly)

This is gonna be like the AI and the distro isnt it?

What do we do about the Atlantic?

Toronto mesh apparently already discovers nearby nodes and connects to them, maybe we can "borrow" some of their code so we don't have to share .opvn files

I'm still in the concept art stage, I'm trying to get enough inspiration for the logo but I'm unsure if linus sebasbian, terry davis, lewd hentai trap and chris-chan will work together.
I will keep you guys updated.

>It will be a combination of DIY meshnets on a city wide basis, and a platform for interconnecting these city wide meshnets over p2p openvpn bridges and high powered wireless dishes for City to City relays.
>p2p openvpn bridges
>openvpn
DOA

Crownfunding for a giant ass antenna?

If this is gonna happen it really should focus locally first. Then we focus on connecting the continents.

I have a spare tplink router
Can I use that and how since I'm fucking retarded at networking

I'll make the thread title.

Alright I got a bigass CPE510 lying around, covers 15 km probably more unidirectional. Ready to rock if this thing gets moving

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OP is a faggot

Fuck off shitposters.

Hey, that's rude.

What is the plan to get a recent map up and running since the current one is closed?

How about you FUCK OFF back to ?

>crowdfunding

If only there was a better way to incentivize individuals and companies to sell their darknet bandwidth.

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wat

You can tell by the attitude.

This is Poe's law.

RENT
FREE

We're going to ban literally all facists from our alternative internet meshnet. Bootlicker.

That's good but what does that have to do with Jow Forumsternet? Make your own thread

We're going to make sure antifacist controls are built in to Jow Forumsternet. We're fucking tired of Jow Forums and we're not building a new space for them to fuck up.

Shills get their way edition

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This. We won't surrender, we are going to have this meshnet and you won't stop us Comcast shills or whatever you are.

>Alternative Internet
more like meshnet-for-paedofiles

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> We're going to make sure antifacist controls are built in to Jow Forumsternet.
I mean if you want to spend so much effort infiltrating and subverting a hobby project that's barely off the ground be my guest.
> we're not building a new space for them to fuck up.
Clearly you're not, whoever (((you))) are, since you're busy shitposting here instead. What does this non-sequitur have to do with anything

nice thread

TN is looking weak. I might hace to contribute

Jesus fuck user it's just bait, stop embarrassing yourself and shitting up the thread by responding

I'm bored
> stop embarrassing yourself
This is an anonymous imageboard. I can confess my horsecock fetish and suffer no embarrassment
> and shitting up the thread
Is anyone else doing or discussing anything constructive? It's not like thread space is limited anyway. If anything I'm keeping this thread on the first page for more exposure

>horse cock fetish
Watch it. Beastiality will be banned from the meshnet as well. Animal abuse.

And all of this started because I said we could get massive antennas from "crowdfunding". Which still I'm trying to figure out how that makes me a retarded from Jow Forums

ignore politics

Freedom and free software is the way. we will escape the PRISM or die trying

>Watch it.
What if it's BIG FAT futa horsecocks?

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banned by whom? if you can ban someone, then what exactly is the point of the meshnet?

By the DNS resolver, duh.

is the DNS resolver a person deciding who gets banned?

It'll be a collective panel that decides. The meshnet will have one DNS resolver required for use.

The ping would be garbage, but a satellite link would make my dick hard enough to give some buck to help putting it online.

>a collective panel
literally who?
so it's basically censorship, exactly the kind of thing you were going against, nice

>live on the top of a 40 meters hill
>Could easily get 45+ km of reach with a good antenna
>I am sure there are no other Jow Forumsyard on this range

Feels bad

This.

P2P DNS for all github.com/mwarning/KadNode

Use wireguard rather than openvpn

They were testing peervpn at the moment for problems with the topology on openvpn, if you are tech savvy maybe you can lend a hand. Join the IRC.

Tomesh uses cjdns running on top of 802.11s. I wouldn't recommend either. Finding hardware that supports 802.11s is a pain. Last I checked, cjdns had routing issues, and the plan to solve them was to centralize routing decisions.

>The meshnet will have one DNS resolver required for use.
Good luck with that. Nothing would stop another user from running a DNS server/proxy that doesn't block anything.

>P2P DNS for all github.com/mwarning/KadNode
I like it, but I'm not sure what would happen if you try to run it on a meshnet that's separate from clearnet. Someone would need to set up bootstrap servers, and the .p2p domains you have might not be the same as the ones on clearnet (unless there's something to proxy dht lookups between there and the mesh).

>clear
why dont you guys go suck a log out of andy six's ass
a big fat steaming one you faggots

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this kills NAT

This. Once money gets imvolved it has to go to people. Crowdfunding is a lie for decentralized projects
>A collective panel decides if they can cut you out or not
Sounds dangerous as fuck. If you're doing it this way I guarantee it will be taken over by glow in the darks or subverted

>Sounds dangerous as fuck
This is not going to happen. Whatever implementation, it will be distributed.

so is there censorship or not?

>censorship
no censorship

if a censorship is implanted, it will be against all the "muh free as in freedom" talk that goes on this board. THe best way to "contain" certain tipes of toxic behavior would be creating container spaces, just like Jow Forums or /mlp/

fucking normalfags get off my meshnet

>he doesn't enjoy girthy, mottled equine cock

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>contain
AKA CENSORSHIP

autism

no u

>DNS
>domain name service
>name
No

Can we get everyone on Jow Forums in range of a Jow Forums mesh network to install this shit on their RPIs? Maybe package it with gternet-cli or something?

then how will you avoid being shut down by the feds when the inevitable pizza arrives?

We can, if the presents dedicate their time to post on the RPIs and other relevant threads.

it's not censorship, is mantaining certains types of topics in specific spaces, just like this fucking anime site, that have diverse areas for diverse types of topics

Probably the same who scream censorship to all are the same who filter tripfags and words. There is a completely plausible way to enable filters without censorship.

By not having built-in anonymity. Those who want it could probably adapt a concept akin to tor to obfuscate themselves.

>page 9 bump
Should have call it Alternative Internet tbhfam

Reminder that we could use block-chain tech to incentivize the transmission of packets. Kind of like blockchain mining except you get coins for carrying packets quickly and efficiently.

>blockchain mining
>to incentivize the transmission of packets
Not sure about that m8, I do like a few ideas for content creation but for packet transmission doesn't sound right.

How about those who don't want to transfer horse-cock can just monitor incoming hosts of it and just block that shit, thus leaving only the sick fucks to transmit that degenerate shit?

This is the problem with anonymity, perverts and sick fucks can do whatever they want and get away with it. It has been a problem for the internet and it will be a problem for the mesh-net too.

How about masquerade-style anonymity?
We use ancryption and blockchain to keep users anonymous data-wise but each user and their packets has a unique signature (kind of like a trip-code) that keeps them accountable for fucked up shit.

Also fuck the gov, mesh-net will run by its own laws, if the majority of node-hosts decide they don't want pizza then they can just block packets with that signature, and if they decide they want barnyard porn they can whitelist whatever they want. In essence every individual decides for themselves what they do/don't want going through their nodes while all users remain anonymous at the same time.

The signature of course, will not include any info like where its form or stuff like that, but merely act as a specific mark that it belongs to anonymous user #3342 or something like that.

>doesn't sound right
how so? Every man and their dog will be putting up nodes if there is money in it for them. Same reason everyone is buying graphics cards and miners and shit.

I dont think youre liable for data just passing thru your node, only for things you directly requested. Dont know for sure tho. Maybe we need a lawyer...

Sorry but even if this doesn't sound like unnecessary overheat the monetizing is not accounting for a proper scheme at the moment. Maybe if you can manage this in the future something can turn out right.

> block packets with that signature
What signature

I believe he is thinking about some kind of user signatures.

>Also fuck the gov, mesh-net will run by its own laws
That's not how that works, because if it's on your computer, government laws still have ruling over it. Sharing and receiving illegal items is still illegal however you do it. And how are you supposed to know what signatures to block until after the fact? On top of that, once people find out shit like that is "okay" to share on the network, it would be flooded with people dumping illegal content everywhere, and then swarmed by law enforcement.

That is, overall, a terrible and uninformed idea.

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This

Dude, the cubans did a meshnet to circumvent the government and they are ok.

>but the cubans...
that road only leads to dark places man

Dark places like the darknet...

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>Dude, the cubans
Ah yes, the Cuban government: globally renowned for their technological might. Truly no other world organization could put forth a better effort.

The cuban citizens, not the government.

Yes, I get it: the same government that was unable to do anything about it. Do you honestly think no other government would be able to actually come down on something like that?

Are you really defending the current internet? What are you even doing here?

Are you really aspiring to be like Cuba? What are you even doing here?

Nigger, you are the one defending the Internet and the regime of Comcast and bashing this apolitical meshnet. Is like you are not pretending anymore.

Cut the crap, are you paid to shitpost here?

>The jewish subversion has just begun
good luck /gtg/, you're gonna need it.

Who said I was defending the internet? I never once said "The internet is better" or "stop fighting the internet" or anything along those lines at all. You're just desperate for a fight or whatever it is you're seeking.

My point is that, yes, perhaps the Cuban people whipped together their own network, but you're talking about the Cuban government. That's like beating the towel boy in a free-shot contest, so clearly the starting line-up can't be any better. You can't expect to be successful just because one podunk island nation pulled it off.

Yes. Please check out my Fiverr account and donate to my Patreon. They're both as legit as your accusation, internet tough guy.

>someone said something that might make us want to think harder about how we approach this. IT MUST BE JEWS TRYING TO STOP US.

You guys don't need paid shill subversion. You'll just self destruct on your own with this much animosity and rampant paranoia. At no point did I tell you not to do anything other than expect that federal laws would stop just because you send your kiddie diddle porn over a souped up wifi router, and that trumping a second world government's IT department isn't exactly making this idea flawless. Fuck's sake, kids. Maybe consider sinking all the effort you put into your rabid arguments into getting your shit in order.

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>bububu muh alternative internet

What are you doing here?

I love how that's the second time I've been asked that. I thought I made it pretty clear in my last post what I was doing here: pointing out some issues in your plan so that you could address them properly. The response is childish tantrums and questioning my presence. With this much of an effort to drive off someone bringing attention to flaws in the plan, who's trying to subvert who here?

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