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Privacy == Luxury?
Julian Harris
Ayden Thomas
journalist are retarded. privacy isn't a luxury, you can do it for cheap or by simply not putting your information out in the public
Austin Nelson
>let's try to make a basic human right a luxury to sell our shitty overpriced gadgets
Ye nah
Connor Davis
>Privacy == Luxury?
Only for retards who can't stop attention whoring about their boring life on """social media""".
Hunter Edwards
Privacy is cheap in monetary terms. You pay for it with time and effort, and by forgoing conveniences. This is what throws normies for a loop, usually you can just throw money at a problem to increase convenience. Here the convenient shit is already free, since its paid for by spying on you, and you're worth more as advertising data than as a customer, so you can't just pay money for more privacy.
Ryder Hernandez
>Basic human right
>""""luxury""""
Fuck. Right. Off.
Nathan Long
>you have a right to hide your crimes
wut
Lucas Martin
>iPhone
>privacy
???
Aiden Morris
Not only that, you have right to hide your spouses crimes
Angel Hall
This is the dumbest thing possible
Then again, considering the target demographic, it's on point, millennial leftists are so fucking stupid they actually buy the lie that security in exchange for freedoms is the best way possible
Jaxon Kelly
>hurr durr nothin to hide nothin to fear
I know this is bait, but fucking kill yourself.
David Foster
>applel spyPhone
>privacy
TOP FUCKING KEK
Benjamin Anderson
Literally this. Why are people so dumb these days? They deserve this.
Samuel Collins
>journalist
Try shill. Those aren't journalists in the loosest sense.
Alexander Cox
MAGgots are so fucking stupid they actually buy the lie that security in exchange for freedoms is the best way possible.
Blake Ross
It's a good thing I'm not cancerous kekistani/maga then huh?
>No u
Nice argument
Mason Wilson
Yes
Jose Green
>€1,000
>luxury
Blake Brown
Outdated piece of paper.
Jacob Robinson
>giving criminals rights
I know this is bait but fucking KYS yourself.
Brody Williams
Stare at this for 5 minutes then read my comment again.
Easton Mitchell
>ideas so terrible you need to hypnotize people to convince them of them
Bentley Harris
>ideas so terrible you need to hypnotize people to convince them of them
Explain the valid idea of equating the need for privacy to criminal activity. This ought to be something.
opensource.org
Cooper Flores
...
Logan Williams
Just do it senpai trust me.
Bentley Taylor
Rights have to be universal if they're to have any meaning. If the state can just say "Oh, you're a criminal, or a this or a that or something else we don't like, you don't get these rights", then nobody has any rights.
Now if you want to argue for totalitarianism where it's completely out in the open that nobody has any rights, well, go ahead and make your case for that. But be honest about what you're advocating.
Alexander Turner
i bet the jews did this
Mason Phillips
Constitutional rights are only for good American citizens, you libcuck. Universal rights are cuckoldry.
Matthew Harris
If Piracy =/= Stealing then by the same logic Privacy =/= Right. Checkmate fags.
Xavier Nguyen
>You can choose to make a song/game/piece of software
>You cannot choose to not have personal information
Luis Gutierrez
>good
wrong
>American
wrong
>citizens
wrong
Michael Flores
When did Jow Forums become such a commie-infested shithole?
Charles White
>defending constitutionally protected rights is communism
Jose Perez
The sticky is an atheist communist Jewish. You're in the wrong board, summerfag.
Jace Sanchez
You have to go back.
Adrian Hall
Yeah kind of, but not in the way the article implies. You can't expect free shit, if you aren't paying for your tech then you are the product.
Apple can afford to respect your privacy more than Google or Microsoft because they sell their shit at a premium. Google and Microsoft try to get users by offering a ton of free services and cheap devices, but they still need to make money.
Noah Clark
Y'all just gonna read the fucking title and bitch? Lmao we reddit now.
The post was arguing that how Google provides free services for all your information, but how Apple relies on expensive hardware sales instead of personal data. And how nowadays privacy is seen as a "luxury"--don't want your info sucked down? Give us money. It's no longer a right, it's something you need to pay for. And how that's problematic. Fucking christ you're all children.
Kayden Jenkins
>unironically thinks wanting to limit a governments ability to persecute citizens is communism
>calling anybody else a ledditor
next you'll be saying we won't need the 2a anymore
William King
It was never a right. You can have your privacy, just don't use the internet. But if you're going to give heaps and heaps of private information to a multi-million dollar corporation for the sake of some modern conveniences, then you're giving up your "right" to privacy. It's just up to you to pick a company that will respect your information, and the only way they can do that and still be profitable enough to function they need to charge you money up front.
You had a lot more privacy back in the late 90s and early 00s, but the internet and connected devices were nothing like they are now.
Levi Ramirez
This would make sense if you actually had privacy on Apple devices.
Grayson Parker
Their retarded argument is that it takes times to opt out of shit, and that a lot of poor people have no option for deactivating facebook.
Jose Flores
Everyone is used to convenience and not caring at this point. I still don't know if I'd call privacy a luxury. In the sense of an expensive thing for the rich, probably not, but in the sense that most people don't get to enjoy it anymore, probably. It's like how I'm able to enjoy using only free software as a NEET, but most jobs and schools would try to force non-free software on me. I am enjoying the luxury of not having to use non-free software.
Leo Edwards
re-imagining human rights that have been robbed from 90% of people as a "privilege" of the remaining 10% is one of the more impressive tricks that satan has ever pulled off
Adrian Perez
Stupid mutt
Aiden James
>citizens
I said literally, explicitly and unequivocally the opposite of that, you illiterate moron.
Jace Ramirez
>When did Jow Forums become such a commie-infested shithole?
k buddy, enjoy having your rights stripped from you when your government decides to criminalize an activity you currently participate in
Ethan Perry
Privacy is a god given right you cucksoys
Sebastian Thompson
Dont stare at this shit it will give you an afterimage that lasts months. Mods should permaban you for posting it
Brandon Price
privacy is a human right, you retard
Justin Myers
human rights are spooks
Jonathan Morgan
What on earth would possess you to stare at that for longer than a few seconds?
Mason Reed
Everyone has a right to hide crimes dumbass no matter how severe. It seems you're the one who's breaking the law
Ethan Sanders
stop being gay on my screen and kys immediately
Christopher Adams
Neck yourself. Fachshits go away.
Jack Brooks
STEP UP
STEP RIGHT UP FOR YOUR FREE HELICOPTER RIDE
GOT HELICOPTER RIDES HERE
Brayden Myers
Good point
Charles Carter
Yeah, but what about the FBI hacks and the PRISM?
Jonathan Robinson
Fucking Christ man
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>last up to three months or more
What the fuck
Carter Ortiz
Fascists get the bullet too.
Ryder Lee
>falling for Apple's marketing tricks
Nothing worse than a false sense of security, lots of retards thinking they are safe because "le apple doesnt sell ads xD" and "muh encryption" and yet they proceed to upload everything to the cloud, unencrypted.
Christian Sullivan
>implying you weak faggots have guns
Kevin Sanchez
Even toddlers can have guns in some braindead states.
Eli Johnson
Socialist Rifle Association, look it up.
Kayden Rivera
>iphone
>privacy
Wyatt Torres
Capitalism (libertarianism) and nazism (fascism) are one and the same, user.
Gabriel Lewis
ah yeah. right socialism (green) and anarcy (purple) are one and the same as well!
Robert Lee
I bet I have less (surprising) private data in my social media and Google accounts than 99.99% of Apple users and I haven't even rooted my current Android devices.
It's a little thing called actually checking settings, which can be done for free.
Benjamin Richardson
Read Gottfried Feder, you pleb. Nazi Germany's economic policy was libertarian. They privatized state companies like crazy.
Blake Richardson
>Nazi Germany's economic policy was libertarian.
This is so wrong I don't even know where to start.
Levi Evans
That's pretty funny statement when you think how centralized state was Germany under Hitler.
Christian Fisher
Inform yourselves:
jacobinmag.com
Xavier Rivera
Libertarianism implies capitalism, but you can have state capitalism without any of the individual-liberty and anti-authoritarian stuff that libertarianism is about. China is a modern-day example.
Ask yourself what would have happened if the German state, in the late 1930s, went to some business owner wanting to buy whatever his firm produced, and he replied, "I think Hitler is a menace to society, I refuse to sell to you!" Under a libertarian system, that's 100% within his rights as the owner of the business, he can do business, or decline to do business, with whoever he wants for whatever reason he wants, because its his business. Do you think that the Nazi state would have shrugged and said "Scheisse, better go find someone else to buy from..."? Or would they have expropriated the business, or just threatened to put the owner and his family in a concentration camp if he didn't fall in line?
The Nazis were very consistent in their philosophy that everything is subservient to the needs of the state, even if it is otherwise in private ownership. In other words, you have the right to do as you will with private property, and otherwise enjoy the full range of capitalism - until the state decides that something you're doing doesn't serve its needs. That's the antithesis of libertarianism.
David Edwards
>China is capitalist
Stopped reading right there.
Jacob Torres
bfy . tw/ IX9U
Brandon Howard
In this day and age of aggressive data collection and advertising, monetizing information of people becoming the norm, buying your way out of it seems to be one way to escape.
Lincoln Lee
and stop posting outside your containment board
Sebastian Morgan
Who the fuck are you faggot?
Grayson Robinson
Unless they decide you're more valuable as data for the marketing mill than as a paying customer. I strongly suspect that point's been crossed for a lot of places - definitely including Google and Facebook.
Cameron Morales
>$1000 USD is a lot of money
There are mcdonalds cashiers of $15 USD/hr with iphones. Just get a job, OP
Connor Thompson
"Individual-liberty" is the excuse they used to boycott the Jewish people, you dumbass. Goes to show how disconnected libertardians are from reality...
Lincoln Cook
>"""social media"""
((((((social media))))))))
John Anderson
He's the neighborhood cuck
Juan Morris
privacy is literally a constitutional right
Jace Sanchez
Constitutional rights are only for natural-born American citizens though, user.
Juan Martinez
>he doesn’t know
lol
Noah Carter
We don't get hose even here in America anymore, don't let those rights fool you, government don't give no fucks about it anymore.
Benjamin Rivera
>buy $1000 phone for privacy
>use facebook, google, tinder, snapchat with real name anymways
Why are people this retarded?
Kayden Cooper
Normies hate the idea that they might have to think at all or change their behavior in any way. Every normie I've met who'd been at all concerned about privacy has had an attitude of "Can't the nerds just take care of that for me? Can't they just pass a law? Can't I have all my convenient shit without all the creepy marketing spying?" Tell them "no" and they flat out don't believe you.
Ryder James
>no
Except it's possible, user.
Oliver Moore
>privacy=luxury
>iphone=luxury
>therefore privacy=iphone
Nice subliminal message there, whoever they hired for that headline needs to get a raise
Eli Gomez
This
My mom came to me with her phone since the facebook app was asking weird permissions after GDPR was in full effect, I told her they're now admitting to data collection etc. and told her to make her own decision based on information provided and warned her that she won't be able to use the app if she disagrees, she said she doesn't have time for that and just clicked accept on everything without reading. It's sad, but that's how normalfags operate.
Remember that "scandal" when it came out that Facebook was collecting information on your grandma who doesn't even use Facebook? People would repost that "news" on Twitter and Instagram, hilariously enough. Today nobody even remembers what happened.
Carter Nguyen
Normies need to gtfo technology.. seriously.
>GDPR
Fuck off. This retarded law does not punish globalist companies, it punished the small people who cannot afford full compliance.
Isaiah Flores
people seem to conflate privacy with security which are two very different things
Nolan Thompson
>This retarded law does not punish globalist companies
pymnts.com
Nathan Lopez
>implying they will pay
Levi Lopez
Privacy is inherent in having a right to property.
Michael Bell
>implying implications
Matthew Sullivan
Clickbait is free though
Ayden Morgan
The gdpr doesn't allow blackmailing of customers AKA you're not allowed to use our app anymore. You can absolutely disagree with the data mining and still use the app.
Nathan Reyes
The only reason you need to convince yourself that privacy isn't important is that those who say otherwise don't actually believe it.