Why is nobody discussing Swift here?
Isn't there a need for a modern and programmer friendly C++ replacement?
It's open source, available for Linux and Apple platforms, and even a unofficial port to Windows exists.
Swift Programming Language
Henry Brown
Eli Reyes
>betting on Apple's ecosystem for longterm
>using Swift without for anything not Apple-centric
no sorry
But I like the idea of developing standard high-level language for a platform. Windows has C#, Applel has Swift, Linux has flamewars
Ryan Bennett
I mean there is also rust, but judging from the short look I had at it, it's not a very well designed language.
There are a few different string types that one has to use, different kinds of pointers, etc, making it even worse than C++ in some sense.
Jaxson Roberts
But its Objective-C replacement or companion
Isaac Flores
You also have to consider that the C standard library contains next to nothing, and still it got big on all platforms.
Honestly there seems to be a lack of native, modern languages with potential.
Christian Wilson
Swift is a language you use to get work done.
Jow Forums prefers language that make the act of writing a fizzbuzz program unreadable, unmaintainable and slow.
Blake Powell
So what? It's still a general purpose language.
Ryan White
Not really. Even C++ has more kinds of pointers and there are worse designed than Rust's.
Different strings come from the need to distinguish between allocation handler and view on array. This is same for vectors/arrays. C++ has that as well. All of the avoiding unnecessary allocations by sharing data are much cleaner and transparent in Rust than in C++.
Xavier Rogers
>Isn't there a need for a modern and programmer friendly C++ replacement?
That's Go.
Cameron Sanchez
it's useless legacy anyway