So I'm a new BS Computer Science graduate. I've recently got a call for a position I'm not qualified for but have some time to prepare and am wondering if you all have any guidance or suggestions
The position I'm going to get interviewed for is a .NET Application Developer. They're asking for 2+yrs experience with C# or other server-side languages and 2+ with MSSQL. They sound like they will be a little lenient, but I don't have much experience at all with databases, though I know some fundamental concepts.
Currently I'm doing some kattis problems in c# and am looking for MS Database to pirate. Are there any server specific things I can practice on with C#? How do you think I should go about learning MSSQL? I've got a week to prepare
>.NET You're a brave soul. I know I can't offer good advice and my guess is that .NET is so enterprise that no one (or not many at all) here will have much insight into it. Good luck user, have a bump
Joseph Nelson
Haha thank you... Yea, it's definitely going to be interesting
Anthony White
bumps
Kayden Ward
Setup a local database. Microsoft SQL server is a bitch to setup so I suggest a mySql one instead. Then you need to learn basic C#, Linq and basic ASP.net projects. Generally speaking if you don't know what asp.net is, it's a server-side framework for websites. It's the C# version of the Javascript NodeJS or PHP's Laravel... That should get you going more or less
Angel Johnson
Just about all US jobs outside of oracle/google/apple/miscFOSScompany in a tech position require you to use .net in the form of asp.net or forms, so learning C++, C#, or VB will work great. Sorry you had to learn java, that's not commonly used at all.
Blake Miller
Does a lot of MySQL translate to MSSQL? For my interview, I've heard they're just going to sit me down in front of a computer and have me show them what I know
Owen Lee
Luckily my uni has been transitioning most of the classes that utilized Java as the language to C++
Owen Scott
bumpo
Matthew Sullivan
Yeah, they overlap a lot
Brayden Gray
tyty... They specify "experience with MSSQL including writing stored procedures, views, functions and triggers"
maybe learn ADO? sitepoint.com/introduction-ado-net/ pick a project with heavy database usage like a forum or something and write one with C# and MSSQL
Jose Wilson
I'll look into this. Thank you!
Samuel Parker
You don't have any experience with ASP.NET, you don't have any experience with MSSQL. It's not something you can learn in a week. You are simply not qualified for the job.
Evan Lewis
.Net or asp.net ? Asp.net is a webdev framework while Net is a more general framework which includes asp.net . Net code can be written in any language supported by the Common Language Runtime (kinda like the jvm).
You can find courses from MS here mva.microsoft.com/ or anywhere else, you might also want too look into students benefits if you still are eligible, for courses and free MS stuff.
>Sorry you had to learn java, that's not commonly used at all lma0, next thing you'll say is nobody uses PHP
>C# version You can write in any CIL language. >Javascript NodeJS Node is more of a runtime, something like Express is a framework.
James Williams
If I get the job, I will get some training. As I said before too, I heard they may be a but lenient as they are trying to get a lot of IT people.
Also, I have a friend that said it isn't very difficult. Do you think its just too much?
Aaron Lee
Here's the quote
"Solid understanding of Microsoft .NET technologies, Visual Studio, ASP.NET, IIS, MVC, etc."
Nolan Brooks
Depends. Have you lied on the resume and said you have experience with it? If you did be aware they'll know you're completely clueless after a week. It's not just these two things (which are easy to pick up for beginner but very complex when you dig deeper). You are expected to know entire .NET ecosystem and connected technologies. But if you said you don't know anything and they're willing to train you based on your previous experience with other language/your education then everything is fine I guess. Otherwise you'll just make a fool of yourself.
Luis Hernandez
HR doesn't know the specifics so they always list a bunch of stuff, be it related or not.
You should get the basics done first, as long as you have the basics you can always learn the rest. So start by learning C# and if you feel confident look into asp.net.
Ask your friend what exactly he knew before he got hired so maybe you can follow .
It doesn't matter at this point, if they're willing to offer training then that means they don't expect you to know everything, as long as you get the basics done imo it will be fine. Besides, he has nothing to lose.
Xavier Nguyen
No, PHP is commonly used. Java just isn't. Unless you are part of some closed github groups or maybe some work with android application development java is quite rare in an actual occupation.
Connor Rivera
Yea. I'm a rather good bullshitter but I know they'd see right through me once it came down to perform early. I didn't lie on my resume at all (didn't mention C#, database or .NET frameworks), nor will I really during the interview. I'd like to do the stuff I mentioned here on a basic level by then. Basic use of C# won't be a problem
Jayden Evans
Godspeed.
Noah King
Basic use of anything is all programming should be, take it up to arrays, and fucking stop. even if your application is convoluted as fuck using only basic functions, in the real world, it's just about the results, making it pretty and nice isn't needed.
Owen Nguyen
Yea I'm rather intrigued to see what coding is like in the industry. Some people say it's really easy, others not so much. How often do you find yourself using data structures like linked lists and nodes?
Nathan Clark
trees' not nodes
Jacob Morgan
Must be hard being this delusional, but then again, this is Jow Forums after all.
Try it on whatever job posting website you want with whatever keywords you want. Good luck.
Christian Carter
Not often at all. It's as easy as you want to make it. If you are with a big team on the same project the job is infinitely harder than if you are kicking it by yourself. If you are the "new kid" in a team your life is going to get so much harder. At this point in my career 95% of my time is writing reports 4% on coffee and 1% actual programming because of the approval processes...
Cameron Martin
1000 results for pajeet android app developers for shitty startups 373 for actual work and 529 IT specialist. Yep, sounds about right.
Logan Ward
Only 4% coffee eh?
Haha Thanks everyone for the help! It's really late (early) here so I got to go to bed. Have a good day everyone
Aiden Williams
>I reject your reality and substitute my own
Jordan Sanders
I don't know about where you live, but Java here is what they teach children in schools, it's not a serious development platform, and not a serious way to get an actual job at a corporation. If you work for a big name that makes billions you would be hard pressed to even find someone who knows java.
Caleb Martinez
Mostly C++ and Python?
Colton Hernandez
You clearly have no idea about the world around you. I suggest you do some research on your own, I'm not here to educate kids online. Also, you might wanna check rule #2.
mostly C++, C#, and VB. JUst about half the big names moved in as a Microsoft partner and have to use their conventions, though the only vb people I know are old (in their 50s-60s) used to using basic.
I'm really sorry for all those wasted years at school, but when you move out of your mom's house and see the big world for yourself things will change in your mind. I have only ever seen Indians using Java, and they are just some of the drones that I have to clean up after.
Joseph Hernandez
I think id rather clean toilets than use VB professionally
Cameron Sanchez
Learn what joins are and how they work
Charles Ward
DBA here. SQL Server has an express edition you can use and download. It's extremely easy to set up. It uses its own flavor of SQL called TSQL. Its just ANSI SQL but MS just added more functionality, syntactic sugar, etc. Just create a simple database and learn as much as you can about TSQL. SQL Server is so damn easy to use, it's not as intimidating as something like Oracle.
Michael King
make client server program.
Kayden Morgan
>enterprise Whats up with that? Who learns it then only those who graduate from Comp Science and get Microsoft as their first job?
Camden Anderson
>Le java is everywhere meme This stat fucker needs to die. I've worked in half a dozen cities over 16 years in thus industry and finding good legit Java enterprise work is not trivial. There are hoards of stupid job listings that keyword Java and I'm willing to bet more than half are unrelated to software development. It's retarded. >t. Senior Java Developer
Leo Torres
If it's modern VB, it's actually quite okay. The automagic code completion in Visual Studio make it really quick to write all the superfluous syntax. For really quick hackjobs, it's actually faster to write out than C#. For large projects, I think C# is easier to read, though.
t. refactored a 30k lines VB-project to something reasonably sane
Go for it, if the work environment's good, it can be a lot of fun working with .NET (use LINQ and WPF). MSSQL is fun, too. SQL/Relational DBs in general is a really rewarding if you get to write some nicer queries. It's totally different mindset than writing procedural code.
Nathan Bell
Great, thank you for this! Guess I don't have to pirate msdb
