Which and why

Gross. Far too many buttons than can be useless, only compatible with Ableton Live which is a toy DAW, buttons are tiny and of poor quality.
You don't get to /thread your own posts. That's not your decision to make.

\thread.

I'm assuming with "function" overlap?

the ableton push is fucking retarded. it's complete garbage. NOBODY, and i do mean nobody, actually uses all those integrated features, because, surprise, it's easier to do it with a mouse, and for actually performing via midi, there are far superior and cheaper devices.

the ableton push is for total suckers.

ableton push is garbage, but ableton live is not a 'toy daw' anymore than anything else.

>useless
useful*

The only DAWs worse than Ableton Live are FL Studio, followed by GarageBand.

I still own/use the BOSS Dr. Sampler

none, i play real instruments.

Launchpad

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MIDI controllers are real instruments. They are tools you use to make music; i.e. instruments.

*a challenger approaches*

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The AKAI ones have latency issues, I have one and there's a bout a 200ms delay between hitting it and it actually registering it

>posting technology with actual use outside wanking over it on Jow Forums
I politely invite you to go to you're not gonna get any good answers here.

*get on my level, Wasabi*

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>/mu/
>knowledgeable about anything
that's a hearty kek, mu is a cosmic cancer abomination
Its quite literally at this point

>mu is a cosmic cancer abomination
i thought it was /v/

I work for Focusrite in the UK.

/prod/ actually has a lot of knowledge about this type of stuff. And better taste to boot.
Posts like would never have been allowed to happen in /prod./

that's just ignorant. FL studio is the most powerful DAW in existence, with a better scripting system than pro tools.

Too many normalfags on mu though, I can barely go there anymore, and Jow Forums just has a lot of retards who post about shit they don't understand

> This thread again

>FL studio is the most powerful DAW in existence

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No they are instruments but they aren't real instruments, they don't produce sound by themselves.

to further clarify they play sounds but don't produce sounds, might sound like cherry picking but it's actually a key difference.

An instrument doesn't need to produce sound on its own to be considered "real." Just as an electric guitar doesn't need to be plugged into an amplifier to still be considered a "real" instrument.

>buttons clicking isn't sound

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Plebs, novation circut is the god amongst midi controller pads. 2 built in analog synths, 128 custom sample, synth editor, full midi compatible. It does everything.

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none because pads are only usefull to do some meme Youtube videos showing your skill at pressing some button

No interest for music production since you'll be manage all your sound directly in your DAW, a pad will only make you losing time

If you want to get bitches learn to git gud with some real instruments faggot

>No interest for music production since you'll be manage all your sound directly in your DAW, a pad will only make you losing time
I can audibly hear the Asian in this post.

Have fun clicking in notes individually to "save time" (and come up with stale and robotic sequences as a result.)

personally, when it comes to playing midi drums, i like those arcade style buttons rather than rubber pad buttons. the rubber pads likely have velocity sensitivity though, if you're into that. potentiometers are nice if you have use for real time modulation, and those program select buttons would probably be handy.

I personally would go with the more simple device with arcade buttons. just my style though, the akai is undoubtedly more functional though

have fun playing for hour with your new toy
if you dont know how to produce non-robotic sequence with your DAW you shouldnt invest in more gear

none, grow up you fucking child

>none because pads are only usefull to do some meme Youtube videos showing your skill at pressing some button

stopped reading. this shit isn't for making videos. computer keyboards are better suited for making meme videos about pressing buttons.

playing pad drums really isn't very different from playing actual drums. I am an actual drummer and I will freely admit this.

The AKAI.
I use Ableton and the AKAI works better, has more options, has mixer dials, and doesn't look like ass.

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you know, most professional drummers these days don't even record with mics.
they put triggers on their kits and record it all as midi, to add sounds to in post-production. You can get better sounds by isolating drums and recording them individually for a sample library than trying to record a whole drum set at once.

essentially they're just using a very very expensive midi pad setup

>fl studio is the most powerful
All DAWs are the same, it's what you do with it.
And FL Studio visually looks like a kids' toy.
Try again.

FL Studio is not 'the most powerful DAW in existence.'
FL Studio is the ONLY DAW AVAILABLE that has compatibility problems with half the VSTs you load into it. FL Studio has a shit-tier Photoshop-type workflow.
FL Studio is utter irredeemable trash.

Truthfully, I'm partial to the original Akai MPD16 and M-Audio Trigger Finger. I sold my MPD and every time I try to get my hands on a Trigger Finger it gets sold. So I have the next best thing (sorta); An M-Audio Axiom 25.

>And FL Studio visually looks like a kids' toy.

I felt the same way back in the FL 3.x days. And then I actually tried using it after 4.0 dropped.

I haven't stopped using it since. It's really fucking good. Now, I can't speak on 12 'cause I'm still on 10 and see no real need to upgrade yet, but I prefer doing most things in FL. For everything else, I use Sonar 8 (haven't found a real need to upgrade Sonar either)

>The only DAWs worse than Ableton Live
Ableton is god tier

REAPER is God-tier.
Ableton is acceptable-tier at BEST.

>all these plebians
Trackers or go home, amateurs.

You are correct

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Reaper is aiight. Not great but it works and will get the job done if that's all you had to use.

I have used reaper i like it

fl studio very underrated but i am biased because ihave been using it for a long time

for "serious" projects i use protools because i have to, everyone else in the industry uses it, but when i'm making stuff myself i actually use cubase or fl studio

reaper is really good too and i used it back when i had no money, very capable DAW, i just find cubase easier to work in.

It is. It's a pure kids' toy.

YOU ARE ALL FUCKING RETARDED.
ALL DAWS ARE THE SAME. YOU COULD USE AUDACITY IF YOU WANTED TO. IT'S ABOUT COMFORTABILITY, WORK FLOW, AND WHAT YOU DO WITH IT.

I play multiple instruments, including guitar bass mandolin keyboard piano organ etc

i have played in rock bands in front of audiences of 500-700 or so

you do get girls but they arent really worth it, total roasties

i enjoy fucking around with my DAWs and midi shit much more than playing live these days
but when i was younger it makes sense
i started guitar when i was 13 and was playing live in just a couple years so lots of teen high school pussy but really not that good in retrospect desu.

total waste of time lack of creative expression

audacity isnt a daw really

question
honestly
question
if you're recording stuff or arranging stuff
how precise do you really need
you can just fix it as the notes come up on the piano roll or w/e before you finish the song
you dont need to "perform" with it, you just record something better with it.

also Jow Forums is very very far from being the worst board.

Or:

Looks like a descriptor of a DAW to me.

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They're not the same at all.

And Audacity is just an editor, it's not a DAW.

>editor

It's right there in the description. a DAW these days (and really since the late 90's) encompasses sequencing, virtual instruments/fx, etc. Audacity is the poorfags SoundForge, WaveLab, or Audition.

>poorfags
I would say Audacity is more-so geared towards freetards.
Poorfags just pirate Audition.

that's really just max4live

t. buttflustered wannabe DJ

You're looking for LMMS for a freetarded DAW solution in the "modern" sense of the word

>You don't need to "Perform" with it

You're aware that's one of the points of these right
If you're just recording and making it better later why not use a keyboard xd

LMMS has a horrible UI.
People comfy in it are mentally retarded.
Equal none-the-less.

SHREKT

>being this butthurt

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>t. 14 yo soundcloud rapper

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Akai. looks better built and looks like it would have better tactile feedback from the buttons and knobs.

>being this upset about comments on a thai basket weaving java clubs anime forum

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I'd love to play around with one, but I've no composing skills, and I know nothing of music theory or song structure.
Maybe I'd just prefer a mini keyboard with some knobs and wheels.

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Any rgb mechanical keyboard better than a midi fighter.

>Audacity is the same as Ableton is the same as FL Studio

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>if you're recording stuff or arranging stuff
>how precise do you really need
if you're playing a video game, honestly, how "precise" do you need your controllers to be? you can just play again if something goes wrong.

>I know nothing of music theory or song structure.
Neither does Aphex Twin.

never choose a device because it looks better.

you know drums tend to appear in many styles of music other than shitty EDM, right?
a lot of your favorite rock bands have used drum machines. Loveless only has one (1) track with drums played by a human. The same applies to melt banana's album 'fetch.'
beach house pulled it off. the radio dept. pulled it off. cocteau twins did it. midi drums are not limited to just DJs.

>This much damage control with no actual responses
Hmm...

akai because it looks like an actual pro tool not a shiny plastic christmas tree decoration

Cuckstep is dead and you are a fag, now back to

Point is to use a mouse and keyboard at the same time.
I don't masturbate at the computer any more, it makes the office area associated with sexual arousal which leads to a messy, distracting workspace.

I took some music theory in college as an elective, and it hurt more than it helped. For about a year after that I couldn't come up with anything because I felt like I had to stay in "the rules" of composition.

Eventually I said "fuck it" and started just playing what I heard in my head. The hardest part was thinning the disconnect between what I thought and what I played. It happened though.

>TL;DR
Go for it, user. Get yourself an AKAI LPK25 and dick around. They're not too expensive and I've owned a couple. The first worked great until my ex wife shoved into a bag without unplugging it, snapping the USB connector off.

>play videogame
>make mistake, 150ms difference or so
>die
>have to play level over again, lose 10+ minutes of trying

>be in DAW
>record synth lead
>make a mistake, 150ms difference or so
>keep going, everything else gets recorded
>go back and find the one midi input note that was not what I wanted to be
>doubleclick it and change the duration / start time / end time / whatever i messed up

you guys are really fucking retarded if you dont see the difference

i bought a keystation mini 32 used
its pretty neat just to fuck around with
i recommend playing with MASSIVE, lots of cool sounds in there

You’re a fucking moron.

The midifighter is just flashing lights, every single one of the face buttons can be programmed either play a loop, change to a sub-bank of other loops, or act as a trigger for stuff like quantization, incrementing modulation, velocity, etc.

The buttons at the top that you think are just flashing lights, are for setting 4 different preset functions for almost anything, of which you can program to change per sub-bank

Furthermore, by having a digital signal versus an analog signal, you can guarantee that a press on one of the buttons gives a sound — the mpd is velocity sensitive, meaning that a light tap can actually play a loop with next to no volume

The midifighter is for the performer that already did all of the work for a set ahead of time for proper mixing, sound quality, balance, volume, and loop libraries.

The mpd is for the performer who wants to mix his set live and doesn’t have all of the stuff that a midifighter performer already had figured out.

they’re neither better nor worse from each other, just meant for different people

You’re a fucking moron.

The midifighter is more than just flashing lights, every single one of the face buttons can be programmed either play a loop, change to a sub-bank of other loops, or act as a trigger for stuff like quantization, incrementing modulation, velocity, etc.

The buttons at the top that you think are lights, are for setting 4 different preset functions for almost anything, of which you can program to change per sub-bank

Furthermore, by having a digital signal versus an analog signal, you can guarantee that a press on one of the buttons gives a sound — the mpd is velocity sensitive, meaning that a light tap can actually play a loop with next to no volume

The midifighter is for the performer that already did all of the work for a set ahead of time for proper mixing, sound quality, balance, volume, and loop libraries.

The mpd is for the performer who wants to mix his set live and doesn’t have all of the stuff that a midifighter performer already had figured out.

they’re neither better nor worse from each other, just meant for different people

noobs

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audacity very clearly lacks piano roll controls... just because it supports midi recording doesn’t mean it supports midi i/o or correction

it’s non linear audio editor, not a fullfledged daw

sub-banks, or triggers for modulation?

What about Ardour?

The Midifighter Twister

Poorfag that can't build a real studio with proper acoustics and sound isolation detected