>buy $3000 apple product
>its built quality is the same if not worse than a $300 acer
Why is this?
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>its built quality is the same if not worse than a $300 acer
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It's not though. You'd need to be retarded to believe this.
Even the build quality of the internals is better and most people who use macbooks won't see the internals at any point.
Because apple customers are brain dead troglodytes that make their purchasing decisions based off ads instead of technical knowledge.
He may be exaggerating but hes not wrong about them being shit. Apple realized most of their revenue was not from Macbooks and stopped giving a shit.
He's lying and wrong and you're dumb for believing him. Why don't you actually use a Macbook Pro, open it up, actually look at the build quality rather than parroting dog shit you hear on here.
2 rupees have been deposited at your designated shitting street iPajeet.
Indians don't own torx screwdrivers or Macbook pros my dude.
Read words you shill. I said nothing about build quality, just that they're shit. The build quality is mediocre at best. The real travesty is that they don't even upgrade the hardware in them anymore and the things turn into a jet engine after a minute of use. Then they turn around and charge an absurd sum for their shit pile.
I've seen more than enough of my fair share of macbooks to know they've really gone down the drain.
You also didn't explain why you think they're shit.
You're an idiot if you think the build quality is bad, using one for an hour or so will change your mind , form some big boy opinions about hardware rather than repeating stuff you hear here newfriend.
>The real travesty is that they don't even upgrade the hardware
I own a 2015 rMBP and you can replace the SSD even though I thought I couldn't.
>the things turn into a jet engine after a minute of use.
Absolutely wrong, the entire unibody is a heatsink so it actually does a decent job of staying quiet, far quieter than the high end XPS machines I also manage.
>Then they turn around and charge an absurd sum for their shit pile.
Except I didn't pay a penny, and if I did I'd log it as a business expense and claim tax and depreciation back, this is why contractors use macbooks a lot.
>I've seen more than enough of my fair share of macbooks to know they've really gone down the drain.
If you had you wouldn't be arguing about build quality. You'd be arguing about something like the keyboard which is terrible on the newer models.
2 rupees pajeet.
$300 laptops are actually bulletproof.
Parts are dirt cheap and they take a minute to service.
Acer doesn't even bother to put dissembling traps like HP and Dell making it the ideal choice.
a "heatsink" without surface area and airflow is just going to get saturated with heat with no way ofmefficiemtly dissipating it
enjoy your jet engine and non-functional butterfly keys
Mac toddlers will defend this.
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The entire laptop is the surface area you dumb cunt. What do you think the fans in the chassis do?
The 2015 MBP has chiclet not butterfly, way better.
have you ever wondered why proper heat sinks have fins instead of being a flat plate? The only dumb cunt here is you.
Oh look, it's the reddit spacing itoddler again. How many times have you been banned today?
To increase surface area.
When the surface area is the entire laptop such techniques aren't really necessary or desired (see: chunky laptops), there's a long copper plate running over the CPU/GPU combo in the middle with two fans at either side and contacts where the copper hits the unibody, this is really not different to other laptops in the same price range which have absolutely no fins.
Are you saying all laptops are poor at cooling because they don't have massive heat spreading fins to dissipate heat or are you pretending macs are different somehow?
Haven't been banned on Jow Forums since 2011.
>2011
yep, sounds about right
Never said I started posting then senpai.
You probably wouldn't remember vintage memes such as puddi puddi and dun dun xD
2011 is when the mods started being faggots
They were always faggots.
Javascript sucks data mining monkey bot ass
>Be apple
>Make shitty laptops
>Claim that they're totally not shit guys
>Get hit with a class action because it's shit
>Provide an "extended warranty" which would already have gone out
>Rinse, repeat because apple apologists will still lick the boot of your company on Jow Forums
The class action was because of the keyboard.
I own a 2015 with the normal chiclet keys not the crappy flat ones on the 2017+.
>It's because the keyboard.
Not the one I'm talking about you dumb cunt.
As I said, they just keep doing it. Because you will still drink their piss whenever they do it.
Then which one are you talking about, faggot? Are you talking about the nvidia stuff that happened like 8 years ago?
I don't pay for my laptop so I'll buy whatever makes sense and the business will pay for it. If being forced to buy Apple hardware for business is "drinking piss" you'd be shocked at the kind of shit businesses spend tons of money on. Not that you know any of this or anything about hardware at all.
Because that is how capitalism works, make the worst product people think is good.
>If being forced to buy Apple hardware for business is "drinking piss" you'd be shocked at the kind of shit businesses spend tons of money on. Not that you know any of this or anything about hardware at all.
Lel what the fuck are you even doing mate.
I'm talking about that time they got sued and released a 2 year extended warranty, even though that warranty wouldn't cover people who bought their products on launch.
I'm surprised you would even think that it was the keyboard one, especially considering that they HAVEN'T responded AT ALL to that one. Man, this company sure cares about consumers.
You're not forced to buy apple products you dumb cunt, stop trying to defend them so vehemently.
The fact that there's so many lawsuits that you couldn't even be sure which one I was talking about should make it really fucking clear.
>I'm talking about that time they got sued and released a 2 year extended warranty
When, what was it about?
>You're not forced to buy apple products you dumb cunt
Unless you want to run Mac software in a business.
>stop trying to defend them so vehemently.
I defended the poor build quality, out of all the reasons to criticise macs build quality is very low on the list.
>The fact that there's so many lawsuits that you couldn't even be sure
>Try to refute my points by claiming class action suits happened
>Don't mention any at all, any dates, nothing
>It's somehow my fault
Righty, excuse me, I was wrong.
It was actually 3 years, published 3 years after releasing the products. Took a bit of digging, I wonder if it has something with it being a billion dollar company which might want to hide old issues.
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>Unless you want to run Mac software in a business
Lel why the fuck would you want that?
Name 1 worthwhile piece of software that has no substitute on windows/linux machines that is worth dealing with Apple for. Protip, you literally cannot.
>I defended the poor build quality, out of all the reasons to criticise macs build quality is very low on the list.
Why the fuck are you defending defective products? That is literally what a piss drinker would be doing. I hope they pay you well for this shit.
>Whine whine why didn't you spoonfeed me from the start
Kek get the fuck out of here. If you can even walk with apples massive shaft up yer arse.
>Name 1 worthwhile piece of software that has no substitute on windows/linux machines
Sketch by Bohemian. All the designers here use it as their main tool.
I defended the build quality because it's standout, at the price point and overall. If you knew anything about the hardware you would agree, but you don't.
Maybe you should back up your arguments properly.
>You'd need to be retarded
But that's like 80% of Jow Forums, user
>I defended the build quality because it's standout, at the price point and overall.
PFFFHAHHAHAHAHHFhAHAHFHHFHAHAHAHAHA
>Thunderbolt failure disables internal SSD
>Trackpad connects directly to SMC
>They can't even make a fucking mount that doesn't break for 80$
>Sketch is the best example of software that you can think of
PHAHAHAHHHFHFHHAHFHFHFHFHFHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAFHFHHFHHAHAHHAH
>You clearly don't know anything about the hardware.
Speaking of, haven't macbooks been having issues with thermal throttling for years now?
PFHHHAHAHFHFHFHFHFHHAHAHHAHFHHAHHAHA
Absolute fucking comedy gold right here!
I can't even
Never encountered those problems.
>They can't even make a fucking mount that doesn't break for 80$
Except they didn't make it, they were reselling it.
Sketch is industry standard and has been for years, you must think web design is all done is PS still lmao.
What is that screenshot supposed to illustrate and what makes you think your opinion is relevant?
>LITERALLY werks on my machine.
Must be why there's a lawsuit about those keyboards, eh? THEY CAN'T EVEN MAKE WORKING KEYBOARDS
>You're pressing the keys too hard.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>They were selling rubbish for 80$ a pop but they didn't make it so it's fine.
HAH
>This amazing industry standard lets you choose if you want your face in a square or a circle.
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You literally cannot make this shit up!
>t.mactoddler
>I defended the build quality because it's standout, at the price point and overall.
Yeah, it stands out as being worse than everything else.
>This amazing industry standard lets you choose if you want your face in a square or a circle
Stop pretending to know what you're talking about, you can mask anything into anything then export it as JSON. You just took a screenshot of their brochureware, implied functionality with it then attacked the quality of the software?
Here I masked you into multiple shapes.
Good job picking out that one thing. Now adress the others!
Of course. You can't! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>You just attacked the quality of it.
>This MARVELLOUS INDUSTRY STANDARD markets itself on how easy it is to put you face in a shape
HAHAHAHAHAHAH seems pretty fare to me mate KEK
>He's still not gonna adress anything.
Calling it now! Move those goalposts! Hurry up!
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>Tell me one bit of software that is worth buying a mac over
>I mention software
>OMEGALUL THAT SOFTWARE IS BAD LMAO LOOK AT THESE UNRELATED SCREENSHOTS
Honestly I feel sorry for your parents.
>>Tell me one bit of software that is worth buying a mac over
>Misquoting me is the only thing you have left.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I asked you to mention software worth using it for that didn't have alternatives available on Windows.
YOU FAILED TO EVEN DO THAT!
AND YOU STILL THINK IT'S AN ARGUMENT!
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I hope it was worth those 10k for a sub par product!
FHAHHFHHOHJOHOHFWPAOHWA:IWND:LAIWSNHA!
Now adress the other things! Adress the hardware issues user! Tell me why you're defending a company that sells defective products for 10k!
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There is no alternative to Sketch.
Adobe XD is not better or even close, nor was it released when we switched to Sketch.
>I hope it was worth those 10k for a sub par product!
Expense doesn't matter, we have users that need Sketch and Sketch will only run on Mac, we all have maxed machines and it's not a problem in the slightest, you claim back tax and depreciation on business expenses and that's the accountant's problem anyway not mine.
We haven't had an issue with any of the Macs we're bought, so they're far from defective.
Go fix a laptop, louis.
Build quality of apple products may not be special, but acer's has always been abysmal.
>There is no alternative to Sketch.
I literally just googled "Alternatives to sketch" and a whole list popped up! You ought to quell that massive denial you're in! It's not healthy!
I mean sure you probably wasted HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS on shitty laptops! You could probably get past that in time!
>LITERALLY WERKS FER ME
I thought we moved past this user!
How come literally every macbook the last decade has had some sort of defect user!? Man it sure must suck to be this far up your own arse, that you can't even acknowledge that they have issues with them!
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OH MAN I'm going to run out of laughing anime girls at this rate!
You ought to give me with some of those for wasting all my time on you today!
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
>industry standard
lmao
that's just a retarded illusion that results from being cooped up in the apple bubble
>I literally just googled "Alternatives to sketch" and a whole list popped up!
A whole list of products that aren't as good as Sketch.
No these are the tools professionals swear by.
If they were shit no one would use them, Sketch is genuinely great at what it does and I'd recommend it to people who don't own a Mac. I Hackintosh at home solely for it as I do freelance UX/UI work outside of managing IT systems for a FinTech startup.
>A whole list of products that aren't as good as Sketch.
Well of course YOU would say that!
You have to justify all that wasted money!
I also see that you're still not acknowledging the issues!
I just want you to say it user! Say it!
"Yes, we wasted 100k on shitty defective laptops"!
Say it!
Accepting the problem is the first step to solving it!
I am now imposing a tax on your upcoming posts!
One smug/laughing anime picture shall henceforth be attached to your posts! Else you shall be convicted of tax fraud!
some professionals use some tools, other professionals use other tools. Just because you're cooped up in an ecosystem doesn't make it an industry standard.
>Well of course YOU would say that!
Yes because I know what I'm talking about, unlike you.
>You have to justify all that wasted money!
Not my money, not wasted.
>One smug/laughing anime picture shall henceforth be attached to your posts!
You've been doing this since the start of the thread because you can't refute any of my points properly.
Sketch was doing tons of innovative stuff that existing industry standard (See: Adobe) didn't do, they took a good chunk of market share just from being the first bit of dedicated ux software on the market, we switched to Mac because it was the best tool available for our needs, it was that point where we joined the Apple eco system, not the other way round.
Stuff becomes industry standard by being the best, if I joined another company I would expect them to provide me with a Mac for Sketch if I was doing web, the full Adobe Suite if I were doing anything else because they are the expected standard in the industry.
I really don't get rossman, does he honestly think "good engineering" is designing the circuit board to be fully redundant if any 1 piece breaks or shorts? Does he have a background in Electrical Engineering / Board design? he seems like a complete retard who has no idea what hes talking about.
All that text, and there isn't a single argument in it!
Say it user! You know you want to!
Saying it will set you free!
Who's the one not refuting whos points again?
Say it! You criminal scumbag!
Adress the problems!
>mactoddler thinks he knows what he's talking about
How cute.
Stop posting you waste of oxygen.
Enlighten me with your knowledge.
This.
>mactoddler subhuman calling someone else a waste of oxygen
lmao
>Stop posting you waste of oxygen.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OH GOD I CAN'T BREATHE!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh jesus this is great.
You can't even come up with anything.
All this absolute denial, I can't believe a human would go through this lenght for it.
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A laptop shouldn't break because the firewire broke.
If a stationary computer broke because of an usb port there would be absolute outrage.
Bad USB ports which short the entire computer are as old as computers themselves. What the fuck are you talking about.
>vintage meme
>puddi puddi
look at this motherfucker here either troll or retard but more than likely both.
: ^)
Not on 10k$ hardware.
If something were to happen with the webcam on a macbook for instance it could literally prevent it from booting. That is just horrible design.
Imagine if my mouse stopped working and suddenly my stationary pc didn't boot.
That would genuinely be unacceptable.
>If something were to happen with the webcam on a macbook for instance it could literally prevent it from booting. That is just horrible design.
You literally can't design around these edge cases. If you fix that then it becomes "when the Audio dies the PC doesnt boot". Its an endless game of cat and mouse which would only lead to more problems.
No?
There's no reason for it to be designed in such a case that the webcam, firewire, ssd and whatever to completely rely on eachother.
You can design around it, almost everyone else does.
Everyone else also offers better support of something does break. It's not justifiable. Stop trying to justify it.
>There's no reason for it to be designed in such a case that the webcam, firewire, ssd and whatever to completely rely on eachother.
Welcome to circuit design, enjoy your stay.
>You can design around it, almost everyone else does.
No they don't, open up a razer blade or XPS and have a look for yourself.
>Everyone else also offers better support of something does break. It's not justifiable. Stop trying to justify it.
That is nothing to do with this topic
You're been dishonest. Or you're just a retard who has no idea what you're talking about.
You can't design around *all* edge cases. So you tackle the most probable ones. Like an external port being fucked up by an external device.
>and if your mb is not working because its too cold, then you can go to a place like hell.
I like this guy
Lel this fucker thinks he has ground again.
YES I'm sure that literally every other manufacturer makes it so that the laptop completely breaks if something happens to the touch pad.
I'm sure that every other manufacturer makes it so that the webcam can short the SSD because that's a completely logical thing to do and totally not the sort of idiotic thing apple does for planned obsolecence.
Just say it with me user.
"We wasted a bunch of money on poorly designed hardware"
Say it!
Also, since you were so willing to claim that all the other manufactorers are so willing to use this shitty design, why don't you prove it?
It's up to you to prove that claim, is it not?
I'm surprised you're still posting in this tread after being so thoroughly humilliated.
I'd expect you to be hugging your pillow, crying to yourself "it's not real! it's not real!".!
>t. mactoddler
>a mactoddler manchild is actually defending his chinkshit fruit toys' shit thier build quality
>Can't come up with any valid counter arguments
>call them a mactoddler and sperg out
you guys got me. Really, you are scholars when it comes to this stuff. Consider my opinion changed.
something something macbook
>Not an argument to be seen
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Prove it user! Prove that other manufactorers fuck up this badly!
>Get confronted with arguments and forced to prove your shitty claims
>Decide to call them spergs and ignore them
Absolute denial.
It's time to stop posting user. Just turn off your computer and walk away.
If you're lucky it won't be broken when you return to it!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You're the one whos claiming every manufacturer can design PCB's perfectly resilient to any fault. Its on you to prove that one retard. My argument was that its an impossible feat. So go on, show us all user.
>perfectly resilient to any fault
>Misquoting me again
user please, are you even trying at this point.
Come on user. Prove to me that other laptops completely refuse to boot if the webcam fucks up!
Prove that they completely fail if there's any error at all with the touchpad!
Prove to me that it's not ONLY APPLE that fucks up this badly!
'Course you can't
'Cus they don't
Just turn off the screen and walk away user.
Just walk away.
>perfectly resilient to any fault
No, just able to not die from a shorted external port, a problem which has been solved by other vendors
>>Can't come up with any valid counter arguments
>>call factual evidence of applel incompetence fake
You got us mactodller. Really, you are a scholar when it comes to this stuff. Consider my opinion changed.
>not getting the macbook's superior design
kill yourself, thinkpadcucks
>dodging this hard
Give me some sources or stop replying
>No, just able to not die from a shorted external port, a problem which has been solved by other vendors
Do you want to prove that? Just so you know anecdotes from 3 rossman videos doesn't constitute as evidence.
>shitbook
>superior design
Topkek
You started accepting that it happened and that it was inevitable. Don't you back down now Timmy.
>Unless you want to run Mac software in a business.
What use do gay brothels have for computers anyway?
They have to take tallies of their customers to send them their complimentary antiretroviral pills
>baseless arguments
Sour grapes, Rajesh?
Give me some sources or stop replying
>factual evidence is baseless
Mactoddlers everyone.
>the autist deleted the sperg out
He can't, look at the quality of his posts since the start. He still thinks he's talking to one person.
Hopefully he deleted himself from the genepool.
It's okay, you might have a chance to own a macbook yourself if you dive in enough dumpsters.
Why are you talking to yourself mactoddler?
That's where they belong
>even mactoddlers admit macshit belongs in the trash
LMAO
i have the most budget shitty piece of plastic shit 300$ Acer Aspire from like 2007 that has been used a lot and still gets turned on almost every day and works as brand new (except for a dead battery due to age).
mildly used (~300 hours in hdd report) 2010 maxed out Macbook Prolapse i got from employer had a GPU failure within 3 months of use and after like 8 months sitting in backpack the battery turned into a fuckin balloon and while bending the case it wrecked the keyboard and trackpad. rossman described the mass manufacturing fault GPU failure for that model (and 2 others) in that 'think different' video.
Why don't you ask the janitor lurking if we're the same person?
MACTODDLERS BTFO
It's not too late, just open your eyes and you might just see the wisdom of Job's superior design.
>use macbook
>it explodes
>superior design
>not understanding that it's a feature
Stop outing yourself as a brainlet, sweet user.
>Blocked for 10 minutes for reposting/spamming
Am I shitposting excessively? I guess I'll take it down a notch if you want me to mods!
Source your claims user!
You can't just keep ignoring these issues. The macbooks are clearly poorly designed and massively overpriced. Stop defending it and flat out denying the issues!
>Implying I haven't been talking to the same guy.
You can see the IP count. 4chanX has a feature where posts that increase that IP count are marked.
I know it's you user.
>Claim (You): You can design around it, almost everyone else does. (cascading component failure on a PCB)
>Evidence: 3 unsuccessful dodges and derails, 3 random gibberish and capslock sperg outs and 1 spam timeout