/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Learn how to build a PC (You can find more detailed videos on YouTube)
youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g
>How to install older Windows with USB 3
pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1

If you want help
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
>List your uses - e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g. photo editing, gaming) and graphics card pairing

Overclocking
>DON'T BUY AN 8000K CPU OR Z300 BOARD IF YOU AREN'T OVERCLOCKING
>Delid 8000K
>Use Precision Boost 2 offsets for Ryzen 2000X

CPUs
>R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming (dGPU optional)
>R5 2400G - Consider if close to 2200G price
>R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs
>i7-8700K - Best for gaming, but most expensive platform & delid necessary
>R7 2700/X - Best mainstream high-end mixed usage
>Threadripper/used Xeon - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing

Motherboards
>Don't buy A320 (All Ryzen is unlocked)
>Only Z300 Intel boards can utilize memory over 2666MHz

RAM
>8GB - Enough for most gaming use
>16GB - Standard for heavy use
>32GB - Too much for most users
>2933MHz+ is ideal; 3200 CL14 is B-die

Storage
>StoreMI can make HDDs better
>Consider getting a larger SSD instead of SSD+HDD
>2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB
>M.2 can be SATA or PCIe
>PCIe/NVMe for intensive use only

Video cards
>SLI and CrossFire are unadvisable
MSRP of common cards
>(GTX) 1050- $110, Ti- $140; 1060 3GB- $200, 6GB- $230; 1070- $380, Ti- $450; 1080- $500, Ti- $700
>(RX) 570 4GB- $170; 580 8GB- $230; Vega 56- $400; Vega 64- $500
1080p
>1050 Ti, 1060 3/6GB, or 570/580
>1070 or Vega 56 if you're looking for 100+ fps & have a CPU to match
1440p
>1070/Ti, 1080 or Vega 56/64
>1080 Ti if you're looking for 100+ fps & have a CPU to match
2160p
>1080 Ti

Monitors
>G-SYNC only with high budget/refresh rate
>Always consider FreeSync with RX cards
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING

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Also, requesting a list of AMD boards that support USB flashing without CPU

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Recommended specs for new titles like fallout 76, cyberpunk:

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4-Core 4.0GHz or AMD Ryzen R5 1600
Graphics: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 or AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 8GB

Does that mean you will bearly get 60fps@1080p on high settings with a 1070?

From what I can find only ASUS included it with the Crosshair VI and VII and the upcoming B450 motherboards from MSI (GN mentioned it at MSI's booth at Computex but I can't find the clip)

It was Hardware Unboxed, that's why I couldn't find it
youtube.com/watch?&v=ruirDiUHKGE at 1:40

Only expensive ass ASUS ones. I think they have it patented and are jewing it hard.

I'd assume you can get 60 at 1440p in those games on that, at least on high instead of maxed.

C2077 appeared to actually be running real time on Xbox One X, which is basically RX570 performance, at 4k. Albeit 30fps 4k, but still. There should be no reason it won't run at similar quality in 1440p 60fps on a 1070.
But I'm sure that just like Witcher 3, you'll be able to cut performance in half without any discernible difference in quality by maxing the settings.

waffling between getting an Anidees AI Crystal, a Define R6, or a Define S to replace my Meshify C, because the open mesh front is a little noisy and would only get noisier as i add airflow
seriously considering the anidees

>3 front fans stock, vs 2 on a R6 or 1 on a Define S
>3 SSD racks vs 2
>on sale so it's 25% cheaper than a Define R6, and $25ish more than a Define S
>looks fucking amazing in white with tinted glass

i've read that the stock fans are relatively loud though, but perhaps it's because there's more of them rather than because they're not fractal design fans? plus i could set a fan profile

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>ordered Fractal R6 BLACKED, no window, no fun allowed edition yesterday
>Pay for express shipping
>Check tracking today
>It's in my state but 1 town over.
>Expected delivery still says 3 days from now

REEEE I'LL JUST COME PICK IT UP, KEEP THE SHIPPING. Fucking nonsense. Wanted to do my build this weekend.

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>You won't use those 15 drive bays.
I was the guy suggesting the Define S over the 5 that quoted. I agree that the 5 has way too many cages, but the S is the same without all the extra stuff. But the cages can also be 100% removed so if it's a good price it's not that big of a deal.

>that it fits on your desk is much more convenient, too.
Eh, depends if you want it on your desktop or not I suppose. Mine is under my desk and turned sideways since it's just a black box with no window. Smaller form factors have less space (obviously) for better AIB cards and have higher heat as well.

>because the open mesh front is a little noisy and would only get noisier as i add airflow
R6 is going to be quieter, but that's because there's a door covering most of the front intake. S has a plastic front panel which I guess is an ok middleg round, but unless you're running your fans are 2000 rpm are they really that loud?

Also Fractal case fans are complete ass. They're low RPM, no static, low airflow and they're like $10. Don't let an extra fan affect your purchase.

Recommended specs are not a benchmark
It might mean 100+ on absolutely max, or 40-60 on medium, who knows?
You don't need a case to run a PC though

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>R6 is going to be quieter, but that's because there's a door covering most of the front intake. S has a plastic front panel which I guess is an ok middleg round, but unless you're running your fans are 2000 rpm are they really that loud?
the problem is that my case sits right beside my mousepad due to desk/room space constraints, and i plan on streaming so i want as little background noise as possible without hurting temps/airflow too much

>Also Fractal case fans are complete ass. They're low RPM, no static, low airflow and they're like $10. Don't let an extra fan affect your purchase.
huh, i thought their fancy X2 fans were supposed to be quiet and high flow, i guess it's just marketing and poor review methodology?

>Don't need a case to run a PC though
I know. My PC is long since built. But it's inside an ugly as fuck CM 590 Advanced III case. I'm sick of looking at it. Dust everywhere because of no filters.

When I bought it I was naive. My first case I ever bought myself was a Cooler Master HAF 912. It treated me well. I thought this one would too. I guess I was just blind to the case's imerfections then

It's not just the cages but the depth.
I prefer the inside to be no deeper than like 350-400mm max. No graphics cards are longer than that, as far as I'm aware. You can fit 3-8 hdd bays in front of the psu and such without needing a long row along the entire front of the case.
These 17, 18+ inch deep cases are retarded and pointless.

Define S is still larger than that. It supports 450mm long gpu (425mm with 25mm deep fans). lmao.

Now in cases like a Be Quiet case, where it has a lot of sound deadening around it that adds size, okay I can understand there. It still doesn't have a 425-450mm pointlessly supported GPU length on the 600, though.
Fractal are some kind of meme and get recommended quite a bit but I JUST don't understand it. They seem full of terrible oversights to me.

Just ordered myself an Acer Predator monitor. It's the IPS variant. Anyone here have any experience with the monitor and can comment if the color banding is a huge issue? Had to return two monitors already because of the horrible fucking banding just ruining the image in dark scenes regardless of calibration. They were both TN panels though.

>huh, i thought their fancy X2 fans were supposed to be quiet and high flow,
Quiet and high airflow is a marketing scam 9/10 times. What else would they said? High airflow and loud?

I don't remember the specific model, but whatever fans come standard in the Define S/R5 are the ones I'm talking about. I know their Venturi fans get literally half the CFM the specs sheet show from the fan reviews I've seen on em.

>Define S is still larger than that. It supports 450mm long gpu (425mm with 25mm deep fans). lmao.
That's because it assumes you'll use some of that space for a rad/pump. For strictly air cooling it's a lot more room than you need, but that wasn't the target audience. At least with more room you can make the choice.

But since he said it's right beside his mousepad and he doesn't have a ton of space I'd totally agree. Those two cases are a bit large to have on a table.

Anyone built in a Rajintek Styx or Metis? Love the look and the challenge of getting a performance machine in such a small package. Thinking about ordering the Styx for a future build because it’s cramped enough as is, already smaller than a Bitfenix Prodigy. Without the window, of course.

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So I should wait for B450 right

I'm thinking of adding another monitor but I don't want to buy another VESA mount with pole as I already have one. I basically only need the arm to fit in my pole. Where can I get an arm-only VESA mount?

>Vega56 nano already out of stock again

If you are water cooling, your PCB is likely 310mm max. Something like the nano I think is half that. Your rad+fans isn't going to be 115mm deep...
A "thick" rad+fan is usually 40mm rad, 30mm fans, right? I do think you can get 60mm or thicker rads, but still, come on. The super thick rad sizes are much more typical for 120x120mm or 140x140mm setups anyway, too.

You also, iirc, have new reservoir+pump combos coming out this year that are a lot more compact, if they aren't already available.
I think even something like an 88rr is on the large end to have plenty of room for water cooling, though that's mATX, still not quite so deep.

I've seen a number of them. Seems nice. The low GPU length is challenging, but afaik you'd have no trouble fit in watercooling a nano or other small pcb GPU in there.

I'd say so. Board manufacturers didn't realize how popular Ryzen would be and made their b350 boards largely too shitty.

idk

Literally the same. Unless you don't wanna deal with the BIOS situation.

techarp.com/computer/b450-aorus-pro-wifi-preview/
removable bios chip lol

yes because the simple act of moving your cursor around on a 144hz panel is already a miracle of the universe

Does anyone remember where the accessory box for the Meshify C was? I can't find it inside the case itself or the box it shipped in.

pretty sure it's in the HDD tray

Every B450 board is gonna be the same cancer with leds and form-over-function design as all the current boards, right?

I've already looked and it's not there. I'm pretty sure it didn't ship.
Thanks anyway

the support is pretty diligent
just tell them and you're sure to have it sent to you

thats what lets you to set bclk. not all boards have them especiall lower end ones..

Rate this budget build

geizhals.de/be-quiet-pure-power-10-400w-atx-2-4-bn272-a1564535.html

geizhals.de/palit-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-stormx-ne5105t018g1f-a1524159.html

geizhals.de/sharkoon-m25-v-a1531927.html

geizhals.de/asus-prime-b350-plus-90mb0tg0-m0eay0-a1582183.html

geizhals.de/amd-ryzen-5-1500x-yd150xbbaebox-a1604878.html

geizhals.de/intenso-2tb-6513284-a957882.html

geizhals.de/crucial-ballistix-tactical-dimm-kit-8gb-blt2c4g4d30aeta-blt2k4g4d30aeta-a1464311.html

its fine, but please use pcpartpicker nextime

Neat.
but
>not mATX

kek. Not wrong.

No. ASrock showed a bunch without RGB.

You should be able to set BCLK up to 104.8 or so on every 400 series board. External clock gen lets you set it higher.

Give me one good reason to get ATX instead of mATX

there is none
you're going to get either dishonest answers or none at all

Compensation

Can someone recommend a small/mini/micro/whatever factor AMD based like-a-laptop build?

I’d like:
CPU: Ryzen 5 2400G
GPU: None
RAM: 2x4GB DDR4-3000

Must play Dota 2 at 1080p 75FPS
Must also have a wireless network adapter.

Budget doesn’t matter, quality components please, but let’s say an upper bound of £1000.

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I'd replace the PSU for a M12II 520, the Palit for a dual fan 1050 ti, the case for a MX330 and the memory for this cheaper one
geizhals.de/g-skill-ripjaws-v-schwarz-dimm-kit-8gb-f4-3200c16d-8gvkb-a1327028.html

AHH WHAT DO I DO

i'm looking at buying a R5 2600x - and I can't find fucking motherboards that support it out of the box without some bios flash update that I can't do because I won't have a compatible processor to do the update with.

amazon.com/dp/B06X3W9NGG/
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113429

X470 and B450 motherboards don't need the update, if you want to get B350 or X370 you might need a boot kit (provided for free from AMD)

I'm going to replace my noisy PSU fan as soon as I get the required adapter
let's hope I won't die

Pcpartpicker lists the prices so you don't need to check every site

ask AMD for the boot kit:
extremetech.com/computing/268171-amd-again-offers-uefi-update-boot-kits-for-ryzen-2nd-gen-cpus

I know, I got those links from there

Best Mobo for a i7 8700? budget of 210 euros max

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yeah but that takes fucking forever

Then save up for a X470 mobo or wait for B450

You guys have been helping me polish this build for a whole now. I basically have the budget to complete it now. Pic related is the full build list, the image is probably really small.

My question before I start ordering the last few parts, is it worth it to stick with 32G of RAM? I know the thread info always says 32 is too much for most people. If it helps I'm planning on running bigger games like ARMA, Tarkov, GTA, Squad, RO2 Vietnam, etc.

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So I posted yesterday and was wondering what I should change from this.

uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/tzhb29

Going with this monitor.

pcpartpicker.com/product/ttnG3C/acer-monitor-xb271hubmiprz

Thanks.

>8700k+1080ti
good shit
also you can never have enough RAM

>is it worth it to stick with 32G of RAM?
For strictly gaming? 16GB is fine man, you don't need 32. More ram =/= better performance unless you're actually using all of it (for gaming).

I mean I guess 10 years from now when games use 32GB then sure, but it's extra GB you won't ever use otherwise.

the problem is that I have 6k in credit cards that I never pay interest on normally so its like. Man if I want it that bad I'm just gonna fucking buy it but the question is if going last gen Ryzen is better value.

I always figured picking the 2nd gen is going to be way better than the 1st because they've fixed a lot of problems. Is 2nd gen even worth it if it requires me buying an expensive ass motherboard?

Deepcool cases are pretty balls, I'd probably look at something with more airflow. The Meshify C comes to mind.

You're already spending nearly 3 grand, at least get a good case with good airflow. If you're just gaming, 32GB is overkill, but again, since you're dropping 3 Gs, why the fuck not.

Be sure to get a delid tool so you can clean the jizz off your CPU. Buying an 8700k without delidding is stupid, at that point you may as well go Ryzen.

Looks great, you could get a Enthoo Pro M, a cheaper 860 EVO M.2 and this kit (or the B-die F4-3200C14D-16GVK)
uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Y3qbt6/crucial-ballistix-elite-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-ble2k8g4d30aeea

Now that it's crunch time and I'm gonna be investing real money into the build I guess I'm getting cold feet. I keep having thoughts of buying all this shit and not being able to assemble it, or "what if' scenarios like breaking the motherboard or something like that. Clicking the 'buy' button on that 1080Ti is terrifying lmao

>t. wagecuck who has saved for this build for a long time

IT DOESN'T REQUIRE IT, YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO WAIT FOR THE FREE SOLUTION

I'm the same. Actually I'm planning on cracking Windows 7 pro, turning it legit so I can upgrade to a legit Windows 10 license.

I'm worried it won't work though. Keep getting nervous about placing the order for my parts.

Hey, I assume this is the correct thread. I'm brand new when it comes to computers and am currently using a computer cobbled together by a friend after I got off of the street. I asked on here a couple of months ago and was suggested to get a 1060 but I wanted to get a second opinion and some advice before I dive into anything. Ignore the temperature, this screenshot was taken when it was locked up inside a dresser because I had no space.

>If I just want to be able to run games above the bare minimum, is it only the GPU I need to upgrade? If so, what's the cheapest I can get that'll reasonably run things?
>I'm having trouble with the sizing issue, I don't know the case and can't contact the guy who sold it to me. Is there anywhere I can check the sizes?
>Australian Exclusive: Where the fuck do you find affordable cards? A 3gb 1060 (the cheapest 1060 I could find) is $350 in Adelaide.

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>investing money in a depreciating asset to be used for an activity that will not give him more money
Dial it down and scrap it. Make a Ryzen system and keep the ti. It's doable. I thought 3gees were fucking around money for you.
>breaking the motherboard
You literally can't. If you do, RMA it and say it was rekt when you got it

>If I just want to be able to run games above the bare minimum, is it only the GPU I need to upgrade? If so, what's the cheapest I can get that'll reasonably run things?
1050, but why 1050 when you can 1060 or even 1060ti?
>Is there anywhere I can check the sizes?
Tape measure
> Where the fuck do you find affordable cards?
How's customs in you'are cunt? You can find a """friend""" in the US to buy that shit for you and mail it to you while declaring it as a """"""""""""""""""""""gift""""""""""""""""""""""

graphics cards aren't affordable right now. i bought my GTX 960 like a few months before bitcoiners went crazy

BECAUSE THAT REQUIRES WAITING FOREVER AND I WANT GAME GAME NOW.

Seriously one guy said the whole process getting the boot kit took almost a month

>>t. wagecuck who has saved for this build for a long time
Oh then you're totally overkilling it on a few things. Is all this within budget or it just got out of hand? I mean 32GB of ram and a 2TB SSD is great for content creation or actual work, but you'd be just fine with 16GB, 500GB SSD and a few HDDs or 1 large 1 for gaming.

If you've got the cash the 1080ti/8700k is legit the best though.

>8700k is legit the best though.

I disagree.

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I can't read german, but from every other comparison in every english the 8700k wins (from what I remember). I mean I see the difference between it and the 2700x is within margin of errors, but throughout all the reviews of the 2700x overall the 8700k was the best by like 10-15 frames at 1080p for the majority of games.

I really don't wanna look through YT. I literally don't know who that reviewer you posted is.

that monitor is pretty expensive for a TN panel
consider spending about $70 extra for an IPS one with the same specs

>I really don't wanna look through YT.
I did it anyway. youtu.be/1A2yatfyLoo?t=18m58s

evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-6163-RX

This is a really good deal right? Even for B stock?

Have you seriously not heard of computerbase.de? Other than the image being watermarked its also not from a youtube review nor is it old data - the game was released yesterday.

Oh it's just a review on 1 game? I know Ryzen beats Intel in some games where thread count is more important. That's why I said majority like GN video (or article) shows.

>work at a tech college
>kids are all leaving for summer and throwing shit away this week
>see cracked mobo in the trash
>i7 7700k sitting in it
>take it home
>still works 100%

The rig gods have smiled upon me. Also ordered a 1070ti this week. Moving to a small mini itx build

Arright boys, lemme hear what I did wrong. For gaymen, will be build in the USA. Two copies of the SSD/HDD because I want to dual boot arch/windows and don't want to fuck around with windows overwriting GRUB etc. as it has in the past.

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>not just linking pcpartpicker
>8600k
>no name SSDs

8600k is in a weird spot. Either drop down to the 8400 or get the 8700k. All you're getting for the 8600k is higher clocks, but still no HT while still requiring a Z370 board.

I'm skeptical of any non-name brand SSD just due to the chance I need to use the warranty and actual specs.

tear me a new one Jow Forums

is my new toaster gonna work for 1080p gayming for the foreseeable future? pcpartpicker.com/list/s7VMCb

If you're gonna say this you gotta show proof
Your CPU and video card don't match your monitor. I would get a 2160p and a 2600X or 2700X
Drives aren't great
PSU is just bordering acceptable
WHY would you spend that much on GPU and no SSD?
Scrap it and read the OP

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>WHY would you spend that much on GPU and no SSD?
I already have a 240gb SSD

Can anyone recommend a good HHD under 80 dollars, anything over 1 tb?

Within that budget this is better, but spending more will get you more:
pcpartpicker.com/list/sm6kfH
In that case I would do this if you can increase budget:
pcpartpicker.com/list/FtMLcY
This if you can't:
pcpartpicker.com/list/xT2h7W
The BarraCuda 2TB is under $60 and pretty popular

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Also what happens if I start this after I built the pc? Does the bios install w10 or do I need a hard drive for the software
I'm clueless

Get a better monitor and case.

>t. wagecuck who has saved for this build for a long time
Why spend so much if it's not easy for you to blow it? I assumed you just had tons of money you wanted to spend and didn't care, desu.

I have well over 100k saved and I'd absolutely not do that build myself. That's all the money you have saved and you're ready to blow it on that? It's pretty bad price:performance when you can get like 80-99% the same performance, still have the 2TB SSD, with a better monitor for around $1800.
It's not worth spending that 60% more like you are. More like 70%+ more when you include a better monitor and case, to just at the best case get like 25% better performance.

where do you get the 1060ti? I keep hearing this meme but I've never seen one.

At 1440p you're going to get within 1% the same FPS whether it's 2700X, 2600X, or 8700k.

>2 inland 240gb drives
what the fuck are you doing
>8600k
>60hz
lmfao

That 1080Ti model (Armor) is really only good for water blocking. Its cooler can't remotely keep up.

>In that case I would do this if you can increase budget:
>pcpartpicker.com/list/FtMLcY
>This if you can't:
>pcpartpicker.com/list/xT2h7W

the issue here is that for whatever reason I could easily find Intel/Nvidia components at MRSP while AMD GPU/CPU seem to be 30% above MRSP. assuming realistic pricing is Ryzen 5 2600 really the Intel killer people here make it out to be? Is it worth waiting for prices to start making sense again and picking it up?

And as long as I'm waiting is RX 580 8GB really that much better than GTX 1060 3GB. Obviously the extra VRAM looks sweet but benchmarks show them to be within 10%. Am I being jewed by Nvidia?

you install windows to a drive.

Ideally you don't have any other drives or USB plugged in besides the install USB and main drive to make sure you install to the correct drive.

>AMD GPU/CPU seem to be 30% above MRSP.
Where is this? I see comparable costs of AMD GPUs vs Nvidia in the USA. And AMD CPUs either at MSRP or slightly below it.

is this the third for laptop recommendations

>At 1440p you're going to get within 1% the same FPS whether it's 2700X, 2600X, or 8700k.
Good catch, was making my statements about 1080p. I mean the guy is still wrong since his benchmark was at 1080p as well, but yeah 1440p is GPU bound territory.
>That 1080Ti model (Armor) is really only good for water blocking. Its cooler can't remotely keep up.
I'm entertaining the idea of watercooling a 1080ti if the 1180 doesn't come out soon enough. I thought reference PCBs were the best for that since they're the cheapest. Or are you just saying that card is shit?

>That 1080Ti model (Armor) is really only good for water blocking. Its cooler can't remotely keep up.
Oh, I know. The reason I chose it was because the price difference between it and any card that isn't mini or blower is $50
Since when have AMD CPUs been above their MSRP? Also MSRP isn't everything since NVIDIA cards at MSRP aren't that great of a value
The 580 is a better GPU, more VRAM, and supports freesync so you could get a 144Hz and/or higher resolution monitor if you wanted
Nope

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I am in a bit of a problem. I am planning to get 16 gigs of RAM (2x8) but the problem is that the cheapest seller is out of stock. Here's the link
pcpartpicker.com/product/Cf98TW/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gvkb
Should I wait until they get more or should I find some cheaper ones? Mainly because I don't know how long it will be until they have some more.

>The 580 is a better GPU, more VRAM
VRAM for higher resolutions that it can't push.

>Where is this? I see comparable costs of AMD GPUs vs Nvidia in the USA. And AMD CPUs either at MSRP or slightly below it.
>Since when have AMD CPUs been above their MSRP?
Eastern Europe ;_; It's not even used shit, to explain it by all the minerfags disassembling their rigs and flooding the market with cheap GPUs.

>The 580 is a better GPU, more VRAM, and supports freesync so you could get a 144Hz and/or higher resolution monitor if you wanted
shit man, I was gonna wait for a few months in hopes of catching some decent summer/autumn sales. Might as well keep an eye on this one.

For DDR4, I’d wait.

is ryzen 5 1600x worth the shekels for vidya?

Wait it out or get this
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232391&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker, LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
1600X no
2600X yes

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I am planning to buy it next week so if they don't have it in stock by the, I'll buy that. thanks user

Just wondering, since I'm trying to build some stuff now. I can't seem to find my 'memory' in PC Part Picker and I need to know it so that I can check motherboard/GPU compatibility for the ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1060 Mini, ZT-P10610A-10L, 3GB GDDR5 Super Compact.

i7 4790k that I OCed to 4.1 GHZ
16gb DDR3 at 1600 (11-11-11-28 on speccy)
HP 2b36 Mobo (I have no idea)
I run a 4k monitor and one 1440p side.

I find my idle temps to be pretty high in the small HP case and was wondering.
>Would it give me better performance to upgrade my ram to 2400 or the max this mobo can take if I can find out through HP and putting these parts in a newer case for more fan options/air flow.

if i recall correctly, intel beats ryzen in more ipc single core games at 1080p, although at 1440p the margin between something like a 1600x,2700x and 8700k becomes negligible

is it dumb to buy an i5 8400 when new bugs pop up every month?
$30 cheaper than r5 2600 where i live.

you've got other priorities than upgrading your CPU if you're still running @1080p though

>paying more for your ram than your processor
holy kek

>buying a 1080ti with the 1180 literally a month or 3 away from release.

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Correct. At 1440+ games are basically GPU bound. But that's a limit of current technology. If the games weren't GPU bound you would see the same % difference you do at lower resolutions.

But that's only relevant if you plan on buying next gen AMD/Nvidia GPUs.

>waiting with no official specs, release date or price