Everyone's copying Apple's iPhone. Everyone wants their own version of notches, bezelless screens, animoji, touchID, faceID, assID, pursuing gigabytes of RAM and megapixels in front facing cameras, full glass bodies, omitting the headphone jack even if there's no reason to...
What beats me is why nobody copies the iPhone SE, literally THE ONLY truly compact/small smartphone on the market that's not utter shit, for the past 4-5 years. I mean, it is an iPhone, but you get the point.
Obviously, there is a potential market for people who want 4 inchers, seeing as the SE is (very likely) getting a successor - if nobody wanted small phones, Apple would have just axed it. Sony has the right idea, but their Compacts are still too big to be small.
So why can't we have small phones? We who don't play smartphone games, we who don't watch YouTube, we who don't spend our waking hours typing meaningless chats to people we barely know personally, and we who just fucking want to use the phone one handed AND comfortably. Why the smartphone makers don't want our money?
There may be a market but that doesn't mean it would be profitable. Since big phones became a thing 90% of the people you see have big phones.
James Reyes
The iPhone 8 is pretty small and works in one hand
Stop being such an armlet
Luis Green
Actually no. The iPhone copied features from other phones from the very beginning. As a matter of fact, the very concept of the iPhone was copied from the lg parada, a phone that was being developed before the iPhones launch and did just about everything an iPhone did.
I'd like phones to just weigh less like the smaller phones. It may not seem like much but a few extra grams of weight when it's in your hand for hours on end can destroy your joints.
Robert Cox
The problem with the LG Prada (you spelled that wrong btw) is that it was a dumb phone, while the iPhone was the first truly modern smartphone. The Prada was inferior to the iPhone in a number of crucial regards such as having a resistive touchscreen, having much less memory, not being able to display full webpages, being way less powerful, I could go on.
Also, the iPhone was announced on the 9th of January 2007, while the Prada was announced on the 12th of January 2007, so you got your facts wrong there.
Dominic Bennett
I bought a 5s 16gb for $90, did good?
Jordan Lopez
Sony does, they're it though.
Hudson Fisher
iPhone too was a dumbphone at launch. It had the best browser, but it was still a dumbphone.
Apps came later, after much complaining from the community (and as it turns out, Steve jobs and John Carmack having a big falling out over it)
Robert Howard
Why not. It's pretty much what I paid two years ago. Still a great phone though, at least on iOS 8. No idea how shit it runs with iOS11.
so why don't you just but the iphone SE. they still sell them new.
You're acting like a victim because you can't have the phone that you want, but you can. its also like the cheapest offering from apple, not sure what your deal is OP
Camden Murphy
I think he just wanted that form factor but with Android. In any case, Android sucks and iPhone SE can be purchased refurbished for $160.
Lincoln Myers
While iPhone copies chinks and water keeps being wet. In other news, OP is a faggot. Tune in at eleven, for even more goodness!
Ian Miller
I agree OP I've been walking around with big phones in my pocket for a while now. Xperia Z2 &3; Pixel XL and currently the Pixel 2 XL meme phone.
Last week I bought pic related (Z5 compact) brand new for just 150 bucks. I just could not handle the Pixel 2 XL at the gym. So The pixel is still my daily driver but the 4.2 inch Xperia is perfect for the gym. Music on my SD card and streaming from spotify. Battery life is great and the thing is small and relatively light.
I think small phones still have a place in my life.
Please no 1080p. It's pointless on a phone this size, and it only brings about more battery drain.
Sebastian Hernandez
but muh mobage looks so good at it
Jayden Bailey
It's animal abuse to let a tiger get that fat
Jaxon Ward
Fuck off
Owen Nelson
I agree, user. I love everything about my LG V20 except its size. It's fucking massive.
In fact, the only thing I miss about my old HTC M7 from like 4 years ago is how much more compact it was. It was an otherwise shitty phone but it was so much more pleasant to use on a day-to-day basis. It fit in my pocket without pressing against my leg when I sit down, and I could reach the entire screen with one hand without constantly adjusting the way I'm holding it. It was so much more comfy.
Henry Carter
in awe at the size of this lad
Noah Brooks
T-I-G-E-R
Adrian Perry
Pajeets like to use them in lieu of a desktop, console, basically any other device.
Julian Young
Jow Forums here. It's sad that there are no small smartphones anymore. A selfie with (sub) 4inch phone makes you way bigger, because the phone is small compared to you. These fucking 5"5+ phones are bigger than our fucking hands
Josiah Moore
ohhh im learning finnish rn, liha is meat right? so lihava tiikeri is a meaty tiger? oh desu desu desu
Brayden Martin
XZ2 compact is the best most recent small phone you can buy at the moment
>Vivo nex is 6.6 inches, Mi Max 3 will be 7 inches Everything around 5.2 inches is great imo, I fell for the 6 inch meme phone and I don't feel too good about that. There are still good android phones around 5 in, like the Honor 9, galaxy S7 and the Xperias
Hunter White
I'm an Android user, and my work phone also runs on Android, so I'm used to that. I did customize the shit out of my current (old and beat up) phone so I'm not really sure if an iPhone is what I want. But since my phone is only holding together by sheer willpower, and nothing as small is available for grabs, I'm seriously considering biting the iOS bullet and actually getting the SE. I mean, the app selection is pretty much the same, right? The only problem might be connecting it to my Windows powered PC, I sure as hell don't want to install any Apple bloatware on it and I can't see any other way to stuff it up full of my music (fuck off with Spotify and such crap).
We share our feels, comrade. I still have my old HTC Touch 2, that one's fucking tiny compared to today's phones, but God does it fit into my hand perfectly. I'd pay dear money for an upgraded version of that, with recent hardware, recent Android (instead of WM), and a slightly bigger, capacitive display. And a flash LED on the back. Otherwise it's a perfect phone, I still love the dedicated Answer/Reject buttons. I don't need the front facing cam.
Aiden Bell
>Learning Finnish Why tf
David Gomez
>Since big phones became a thing 90% of the people you see have big phones. Maybe it's because there is no small phones on the market.
If Lenovo makes a Moto G SE with the design of the original G, smaller bezels and current specs I would be the first in line to get one.
Jason Nguyen
>pursuing gigabytes of RAM
Apple's doing no such thing. Their top-end smartphone has 3GB of RAM.
Mason Fisher
There's a saying, how many languages you speak, that many times you're a (hu)man. It's a Czech saying, I'm not sure how exactly it translates into English but I think the point is clear. If you have the time and opportunity to learn a language, do it. If nothing else, it excercises your brains.
Isaiah Thompson
I like that sentiment but.. Finnish? Are you talking to a Finn girl right now?
Ryan Hall
Okay, whatever.
3 GB is enough, I guess. I mean, what the fuck does anyone need more than 4GB of RAM in a fucking phone for?
Jace King
No, I'm not the guy you originally responded to. I only speak two languages myself but my grandpa spoke five and I respect him for that. And since driving is a pretty mindless job, I'm thinking of taking up Spanish, Italian or Russian.
William Cruz
>>>>> smaller bezels Stop it.
Jaxson Robinson
I would really love it if somebody nigrigged a raspi zero into a smartphone body.
Nobody cares who copied who. People who argue over those things are pathetic. All that really matters is advancement of technology.
Gavin Murphy
just bought an SE 2 weeks ago after 5 years on iphone 5. Never got why larger phones are more popular.
Blake Ortiz
no. iphone SE 2 shouldn't fuck up the look and feel of the current SE. Only improvements should be inside the phone.
Anthony Howard
And that's why i bought a Z5c in the year 2018 soon to be 2019. The XZ1c was an option too but it doesn't seem that much of an upgrade for me.
Henry Robinson
You know, and Apple knows, that people will critique the phone for being "boring", an "old design", and lambast Apple for losing its "special touch". And so there will be change just for the sake of change; messing with perfection just "because"
Matthew Sullivan
>overheating trash dot png
William Jones
It's going to be much larger and the price will be up at least a hundred freedoms. Garunteed.
Leo Davis
Android is so poorly optimized it needs to extra RAM just to do basic functions without massive amounts of lag.
Ryan Young
>5" >compact
Leo Anderson
Name a more capable smaller phone then
Ian Wood
It doesn't exist. The last one was the XZ1c and small phones aren't a thing anymore, end of story. Maybe if Apple releases an iPhone SE2 or something.
Camden Lee
SE body is clearly one of the best body phones out there. No one has taken any of the design cues from it.
That’s what OP is saying. There’s dozens of ripoffs of the iPhone X’s notch, but no ine is willing to take the SE body and make it standard across small formfactor budget or non flagship phones, nor improve upon it.
No hard, perfectly flat edges. No camera recessed into body of phone. No volume rocker and volume/mute switch. None of these altogether in one package.
Dominic Barnes
>SE2 rumor mill says it’s coming... i would jump ship so fast if it still has touchid and adds 3d touch, i wouldnt even care for wireless charging or IP68 ratings
Andrew Mitchell
I'm still using a SE. I've been searching for a replacement with the same form factor for a month now and there's nothing like it.
Jose Clark
UMPCs are making a comeback thanks to indiegogo. I'm sure small phones could as well.
Elijah Edwards
>a phone that was being developed before the iPhones any proof?
Grayson Stewart
I know lots of people explicitly choosing the iPhone SE because it's comfy to use with one hand. I would too if it wasn't an iPhone, as I'm too dependant on Android.
I agree 100% with OP.
Alexander Morgan
How is 6/7 inches not a tablet? I had a legitimate tablet which was 7 inches.
Luis Rodriguez
>We who don't play smartphone games, we who don't watch YouTube, we who don't spend our waking hours typing meaningless chats to people we barely know personally, and we who just fucking want to use the phone one handed AND comfortably Holy shit you just described my life
Landon Evans
Reason there are no small Android phones is because there is no manufacturer that could create one with decent battery life.
The SE only has a 1624 mAh battery yet has a good battery life. This is only on iOS 9 and 10 though. iOS 11 and 12 give the SE a terrible battery life.
Zachary Ramirez
Back then 7inch tablets had xbox hueg bezels which made them super unwieldy.
I have a 6.44" phone and I can do all the usual shit on it with one hand thanks to the almost non-existent side bezels.
Isaac Evans
Not to mention one-handed modes which are criminally underused.
Thomas Lewis
I don't really understand the appeal of a smaller phone. Most people have phones over 5 inches nowadays and they're happy with it.
Ayden Smith
I'm buying a 6 inch 18:9 phone. Is the size that big of an inconvenience?
Landon Reyes
Just ordered an S8 which is slightly less tall, thinner and has a smaller width than my current G flex 2, with the S8 having a bigger screen. Love my current size so excited to go even smaller and get a bigger screen.
Luis Adams
How much of a fucking manlet do you have to be to have to use an iphone se or equivalent? I'm 5'6" and can use my note 8 comfortably in one hand. I'm small as is, how fucking small are you that you need a phone that's practically half the size?
Andrew Adams
I just got an SE after suffering with a HTC One M8 in my pocket for 4 years.
It's a fucking phone that I mainly make calls, text, and check e-mail with. I don't need a fucking tablet PC in my pocket fucking my pants up and making them all tight when I sit down. I took the case off of my Android phone for the last 2 years to make it smaller. Even with an Otter Box the SE is way smaller and more comfortable.
Tyler Ross
I'm 6'1.5" 180lbs. This is me
Daniel Sullivan
t. Fat manlet
Joseph Collins
My father is forced to use an iPhone se for work. Before that he had to use a Lumia 735. Ever since his phone was replaced, he can't stop complaining about how he cannot type because his fingers are too big for such a small screen or how he can't see shit. Now a lot of people might not have these issues with smaller phone, but a lot of people do have them
Camden King
You must be shaped like a sphere if I'm a manlet
Gabriel Stewart
Cry more fatass, you hands must be used to sub 5” things.
KEK E K
Parker Gomez
gotta agree with on the fat part sounds like you just dont wear pants that fit
If I can find skinny jeans that dont make my iphone 7 plus look obnoxious, I'm sure you can find something out there
Henry Adams
>forced to use
Being forced to use something isn't what this thread is about. This thread is about options and how there is a lack of them.
Camden Ross
Jealous fat manlets. Triggered by someone over 6 ft tall with a healthy BMI
Brayden Ramirez
>healthy bmi >can’t fit into some jeans without his phone bending
Hudson Turner
I'm just saying that he is required, by his employer, to use the se. Truly that wasn't the point of my post, and I would suggest you to read the second half of it
Jack Peterson
George Constanza having a seizure over here
Josiah Green
Cry more fatty
James Powell
>terrible battery life
Maybe 12 beta does. But I noticed no change from 10 to 11. Still go a couple days between charging.
David Russell
I'm bigger than you and i prefer my lumia 520 over my galaxy S5 because i like being able to reach the entire screen comfortably while holding the phone in any orientation while completely secured in my palm.
I feel pity for people like you >l-look guis, i can j-just hold it!! >[thumb hyperextension]
I'm 100% with you OP, I really really liked the overall design of the SE and used one for several years, it's just such a damn shame it's locked into the apple ecosystem. I'd love an SE clone that ran stock android. Perfect screen size, perfect thickness. Give me an SE running stock android with a removable battery and I'll have my perfect phone.
Jacob Wood
The Z5 compact is only like 4cm taller and supports LineageOS so it's a pretty stock android experience.
Leo Reed
Thanks user, I'll look into it. I was considering just compromising on screen size and getting a Huawei P20 because it seemed good value for money, and I can honestly cope with a notch if I can hide it with a black bar, then I realised it had no fucking audio jack. Sick of getting dongled and screened at every turn. It's honestly getting to the point where I want to learn electrical engineering just so I can make a phone and laptop I don't fucking hate.
I bought my SE when iOS 10 was the latest release, and since I've had iOS 11, I haven't noticed any perceptible difference. Still get 2 days to a charge. But I don't necessarily agree that small Android phones would necessarily have shit battery life, Sony manages to do fin with the Xperia X compact. BUT, that being said, you wouldn't want to try cramming power-hungry 800 series SoCs in such a small frame.
The Lumia 520 was a pretty dope budget phone. Shame about the app situation.
Josiah Thompson
Man, iOS 6 was maximum comfy tier
Jaxson Fisher
I also prefer small phones. That's why I'm still using pic related. I have it for over 4 years and I don't think I'm getting any new phone soon. It runs LineageOS 14.1 and everything works perfectly.
I'd also get an A3 or whatever it's called if it weren't for their obsession with the terrible bottom layout of "sensor-physical-sensor" button. Give me three physical buttons, or just make it software based navbar. I just hate sensor buttons. Especially when Shitsung tends to put the Back to the right.
Jack Jenkins
What exactly bothers you in this layout? It seems fine for me.
Jonathan Davis
Maybe I'm an autist, who knows. I just hate sensory buttons, and the inconsistency between the bottom trio is even worse. My finger either expects no resistance and a haptic feedback (sensor), or little resistance and a satisfying click (physical). The uncertainity of which one is going to happen is irritating to me..
James Thompson
iPhone XE when? Hell all it really needs for good ppi is the weird meme resolution that the iPhone 6-8 have.
