Do you guys feel like technology is moving in the wrong direction in terms of user interface? I hate voice control...

Mom is that you? Stop fucking freezing the bread you white trailer trash. How hard is it to buy N loaves every 2 weeks or so, you know so it's actually fresh? Also don't have to pay to store it?

Is it safe to cool my computer by submerging it in liquid bread?

I just stack from the back and put in a new loaf when one of the old loaves is eaten.

You are not alone. I have been spouting the same thing for over 10 years now and it's getting worse every day.

Same here. I think it's more logical, anyway.

I went to some lecture about communicative technology for people with various locked-in disorders. Typing letters/words with tiny eye movements or smt.
They didn't want the 'smart/optimized' version of the text/word-typer or whatever. They wanted the predictable one, the one were they were in control.

>Van Nimwegen's investigation focused on the ways in which externalizing interface information influences a user's performance in solving problems requiring planning, tasks that are more complicated than just creating or editing a document.

>They asked users to solve a reasonably complex puzzle involving moving different coloured balls between two boxes using a small dish, and built two versions of the game program, one of which offered more guidance to the user - involved more externalisation - than the other.

>They found those with less support could play better after an initial learning period. They also coped better with interruptions and remembered more about playing the game after an eight-month gap, indicating that they had internalised the game rules more than those who got support from the game program.

>The same results were found with more realistic applications including a conference scheduler.

>leaving the bag open
NEET4LIFE

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You mean beer?

this but st and vim

I don't mind that developers are working on alternate UIs.
What concerns me is that developers treat the market like a free-labor QA testing ground and we're all expected to flip out and buy every new thing because it's "innovative"
I just want to use what works, unfortunately "what works" is not profitable, so all that's available for sale is "what's flashy and new"

There hasn't been any legitimate need to change UI paradigms on computers for about 25 years.

Agreed, but with this caveat: experimentation must be followed by some sort of user testing to see if it actually accomplishes something.

Example: I have to deal with a bunch of shared hosts, so I am well versed with the ass pain that is CPanel. Every time I want to do something interesting I have to search for how to do it in CPanel, which half the time means using the command line anyway. This point-and-clicky easy to use interface has now gotten so fucking complicated that I don't know how to do anything. Give me a fucking .conf file and let me edit it, you mongs.

What's the "take them all out of the bag, toast what you want right now, put rest in freezer" solution?

Haven't touchscreens changed things?

That's why I said "on computers".

my computer has a touch screen

Like loose bread inside the freezer? Don't they absorb weird tastes from other stuff in there?

Tupperware.

Cellphones are computers.

>Why on earth would I want to talk to my computer or my TV or my phone?

usecases

1) you use a tv. what's the best way to find exactly what you're looking for without relying on peripherals?

2) you use a laptop. you're looking over some papers. you quickly want to know something relevant. can you find out about it without taking your eyes off the paper?

3) you're in your car. how can you legally interact with your phone without stopping the car?

OP here, I get that, but I guess I personally just don't want to talk to my TV. I don't want to shout "Supernatural!" at the TV and have it jump to supernatural in the video store or whatever. If I really wanted to search for something specific on my TV, why not just have the remote have a keyboard and I can just type into it. Seems simpler or more appealing somehow. The car one makes sense though.

>still eating bread in 2018
Your funeral lardo

>frozen bread
This is the true evil

That's called "full retard".

No. Touchscreens are fine for doing limited things on small devices, but they're a downgrade from a keyboard and mouse for a real computer. They also force the computer, which has a much larger screen to go with those more precise controls, to waste most of those advantages on UI elements big enough to be poked with a finger.

Eating "Bread" in 2018
Never gonna make it

>buy N loaves every 2 weeks
What the fuck kind of mutant bread lasts two weeks? Buy a fresh loaf every second day. Every day if you have a good bakery nearby.
I'm with you on not freezing bread, that shit is nasty.

I'm lawful neutral/lawful evil

IT DRIES IT OUT
people need to quit doing this shit

As to the image: Combination of lawful neutral, chaotic neutral and neutral evil when I buy plastic bag bread. Although it is always stored in a bread bin so I guess overall it's lawful good.

>bread only lasts two days
This is a joke, right?

>open bread
>twist it, tie a knot, put two bag clips on it, tuck it, and put it in a box
>transcend the petty moral boundaries of earthlings

Fresh, non-american, non-sweetend to taste like cake, plastic bag supermarket bread lasts around three to seven days. Bread from a bakery is best eaten the same day, although it's okay if toasted the next day.
Most of the world don't eat the processed monstrosity common in the USA, I couldn't believe just how bad it was when I visited.
I didn't mean all at the same time. I do any of the ones I listed depending on how I'm feeling that day.

But that's what it is

We were clearly talking about bagged supermarket bread which as you stated lasts longer than two days. You only buy bread from a bakery if you're a hipster or if you're buying something for a specific meal or purpose.

>You only buy bread from a bakery if you're a hipster or if you're buying something for a specific meal or purpose.
Just no.
>We were clearly talking about
You were talking about bread lasting two weeks, which is mutant bread. That's what we weren't allowed about.

*we were talking about.

it's just a fad, most people agree with you since it's impossible to have a conversation with your phone quietly or without looking like a massive tool. It's only a thing people with long car commutes use, and even then most will just text anyway

>he's so antisocial that he can't even talk to a MACHINE

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Have fun spending twice as much money 3x as often on bread m8.

I don't like this voice thing either

Yes.
We could be using these resources to send humans to Mars, instead we spend billions to have boomers play candy crush.

>I hate voice control, I hate "integration." I don't want the computer to know what I want, I want to give the computer commands through a physical qwerty keyboard. Why on earth would I want to talk to my computer or my TV or my phone?
This is funny to me
Back when computers were just glorified calculators everyone fantasized about the computer fulfilling your wishes and being able to understand speech and whatnot
Now when tech is actually getting close to making it a reality people suddenly don't want it. If you don't want it because you don't like it, you're a luddite and need to find a different hobby. The only legitimate reason not to want it to happen is out of fear of governments and corporations using these tools for the wrong purpose, which is a legitimate cause for concern that unfortunately not enough people care about.

>If you don't want it because you don't like it, you're a luddite
I don't like it both because it isn't efficient, and because I wish I never had to speak to people, let alone a fucking machine.

enjoy your mould, faggot

People in yuropoor slav countries do this. It's not some american soccer mom meme, if you're poor and don't eat enough bread to justify having it outside you just freeze it. I don't notice the difference in taste desu

Just tucking works just as well.

>I don't notice the difference in taste
It's not the flavor that changes but the texture. Freezing bread destroys any difference between crust and crumb and the entire thing becomes one nasty, homogeneous lump.

should I be worried that the minority's tool will die just because ?

man I hate this, why would you sabotage your health to save some coins?

It depends on the bread. I make a bunch of flatbread at once and freeze the extra. It holds up. I can buy commercial grocery bread in bulk and freeze it, it holds up. Fresh baked bread does not hold up as well in the freezer if the bread gluten is weak.

I suspect you've tried freezing Wonder Bread and you don't like it. Wonder Bread is, among many things, not bread.

I think you cut a bottle's neck, push the bag from the "inside" through the cap hole, spread the bag's opening out and twist the cap on top of it, basically using the cap screw to seal the bag, or turning the plastic bag into a bottle.

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