Why is the raspberry pi pushed so much? I got one for free but it seems inferior to cheap tablets in every way and costs as much to set up. I still spent 25$ on accessory gear to get it running and only because it had GPIO access which tablets don't. It feels like I have a really shitty android desktop.
+35+
There was tons of marketing but no marketing hype is as strong as a regretful purchaser's denial.
but you can do cool stuff with it
I use my pi zero w as universal or remote to turn off my tv, available receiver, cable box. And it uses SSH to turn the ambilight running on a different raspberry behind my tv on and off
I do not really know, It just seems like a meme. the main thing is that it is for retro gaming which buying a cheap pc off of ebay is better in every way. I know people who buy pi zeros and use them for reddit bots. You could use it as a file server but other than that there is nothing really you could do for it.
Nah theyre super garbage for NAS stuff. They were ~$400 cheaper than generic normie laptop and they're cheap enough to be a project computer for people learning junk. Cheap low power servers work but actually managing a server is beyond most people.
What most people do with their pi is cram it on a shelf somewhere unused and then tell everyone they meet to buy one.
when I said a file server, I frogot to say that only 1 maybe 2 people could access it at a time without it trying to kill itself.
it has gpio retard. Its not meant to be used as a facebook/youtube machine like some chink tablet.
I mean, if you absolutely need a computer for something extremely specific then it's the best thing to buy.
It's perfectly reasonable for a facebook machine for your grandma or whatever.
It suits my use case very nicely. I have a business (more of a hobby) on the side of my regular job. I make software for embedded vehicle computers in my native language. Kind of a small market but I kind of cornered it because the customers are of the old guard and don't speak/read English. All other comparable products are in English.
Anyway data from these embedded computers are transferred via a golang webservice on a raspberry pi to service my about 300 clients uploading and downloading data. The data is sent to respective customer's fleet management systems so they can create invoices. I also keep copies in a database because the clients regularly fuck up and need to request the data again.
The raspberry pi is low power, cheap and easily replaceable. It has better uptime and stability than my old WSDL/SOAP solution running on a $10/month VPS. Plus the rpi replicates the database to another one I have in my cabin. The cabin is out in bumfuck nowhere but the government sponsored fiber access so I have more bandwidth than what the pi can deliver.
Just because it can be used for something, doesnt mean thats what it was made for. Also, have you tried browsing on that shit? Its like browsing on a 2006 pc
I use it for music. I can play music over AirPlay, my existing library, bluetooth, YouTube, or whatever and output it to my hifi.
I run a plex media server on mine. Works fine for most stuff. Some files are too heavy though.
get your stuff from ebay, you don't need a case; a spare 5v power brick (i just stick the 5v pin into side rather than using a phone charger), and just use ssh to get into the system. rpi is good for niche computing applications like IoT integration, mobile computer vision, and thin client or HTPC, not as a daily driver. you can buy a used latitude off of ebay for 40-50 bucks with a c2d if you wanted computing power for a daily driver.
Raspberry Pi's were like the first popular SBC on the market, so everyone started using them, which meant they got all the support.
And now everybody uses them because they've got all the support, because everybody uses them, beacuse they've got all the support...
There are better SBC's, but they aren't supported like the Raspberry Pi.
Can you make an email server on that thing?
Honestly, for the amount of marketing, you have to understand that the pi is only good enough for everything you might attempt doing. It's for a niche within a niche. Say this user wanted to use it for running code from a proprietary application made for x64. How would he go about it? Not saying pi is useless (albeit some would argue pi2 is), but don't get one unless you know exactly what you are going to do, because the uses outside of running Open source apps or making your own is very limited.
the absolute state of Jow Forums
if you're an absolute brainlet, lurk more, instead of parading to human beings.
A C2D with integrated graphics is much more powerful than a Pi
It was made to be a cheap computer for schools. Obviously very few schools actually use this thing for that purpose.
All other purposes belie its 2 main benefits, its cheap and its open source. Its not powerful nor particularly small.
Likewise just because something can use excess power to do something doesn't mean you NEED it. Lots of people wouldn't notice the difference.
About as small as you can get with the connectors it's got. It's also passively cooled which means fuck that guy. It runs at 5V so USB and a ton of common batteries exist for it even if you wouldn't want to use such a machine for that outside hobbyist tier projects. One little janky piece of shit machine can do all of those things sort of okay and okay always beats good.
Solution: don't use proprietary applications made for x64, dumb winpleb.
Sure. Have fun getting off block lists until the end of time or use a sending gateway.
You probably don't want to run an email server. It's kind of hellish.
I never had any issues sending from my ISP's range but I know that shits some kinda unicorn. Actually I think I've had more problems being blocked by other people's outgoing filters.
It's not even open source. The bootloader, video and some other drivers are proprietary, hardware is proprietary too
RPi CAN optionally uboot. Also the GPU doesn't do shit without drivers so inert. The network firmwares are kinda spooky but I think they eventually got those freed?
The good ol Q6600 still works well today, dont know what you're talking about
>autism so bad he is unable to understand examples
its a pretty shit example, an arm is going to be pretty fucking bad at running x86 code. The only possible solution is to not do that, there are viable alternatives just one search away.
Regretful purchase here.
Bought one to use as a video wall however the piwall it built for a certain aspect ratio and shares the native resolution of 1080 across all monitors. What an awful thing to do, so each screen is pixelated. Now I need to figure out how to share desktops across all Pi's which are displaying on large lfds
It's not?
>+35+ +15+ +10 +15 keyboard/mouse.
$0+ (You really shouldnt use one with it)
You are retarded. So it's $21 "minimum", assuming you don't have any of this stuff laying around. Lots of people have extra SD cards and phone chargers. If you go outside your basement a friend could give you one for free.
That said, more people never do anything with them, and they are awful for file server/seedbox.
>Lots of people wouldn't notice the difference.
Confirmed for never having browsed on a pi. Even a RPI3 is very slow on modern websites, even a grandma would notice instantly.
Depends on a lot of stuff, goes from perfectly usable all day every day to completely unusable with your choices.
YOU CAN DO ANYTHING
but you'll have to ask Jow Forums a million times what to do with it after you've bought one
>an arm is going to be pretty fucking bad at running x86 code.
holy fuck, and ARM processor CANT run ARM code. you find a compiler for the language the application you're attempting to run, is written in, and compile it. stop talking about things you don't understand faggots.
The point is, it's objectively worse than even low end tablet.s
*x86 pardon my autism. you fucks are still dumb.
>holy fuck, and ARM processor CANT run ARM code.
There's emulation that pretty much works.
its for computing, but not a computer
use the proper tool for the job
>inferior to tablets
>15 dollars for a case
>15 dolars foir a keyboard and mouse
>more for a screen
RaspbPI is a pocket sized computer for general purpose use, you're not supposed to use it as a tablet or anything similar. Everything has it's purpose and cheap small PCs do too. I used mine to automate some meteor radar I made with a uni friend. It cost us 20$ to get a raspberry pi, we took an old SD card and then just ran it headless because that's how it was intended to be used. Works it's job to this day
I know many more examples of people using raspi to solve simple problems that usually involve some automation. The IT world is much bigger outside of commercial use. Stop being a brainlet
A pocket sized computer which is worse at computing than even low end tablets and phones.
Face it, it's garbage.
>worse at computing than even low end tablets and phones
Computing what ? I don't need it to compute anything
What part of "that's not it's intended use" didn't you understand ? It's main and only usage is being able to use GPIOs remotely. I couldn't control a bunch of macro electronics remotly with my phone.
This is all my rasbpi does
>sits on a pole 35km outside of town
>collect the data
>do some basic provessing of that data
>send that data to my server
>turn on and off the electronics if needed
RaspPI is cheap, it uses low power and it does the job that I need it to do. And is probably the only type of device that can do such a job (along with Orange, Banana .. variatons )
You are and will always be a brainlet
Sure it can, just not natively. You're really bad at this. Yeah little jimmy whose mom bought him a pi instead of a Surface Pro(tm) will have problems but not insurmountable ones.
I would argue that even the worst desktop machine has better browser options of any weight. Mobile browsers are objectively garbage. Only most browsers/configs would be awful on a pi.
The pis are bad for (sadly this is where most of them end except for the vast majority in drawers:
>desktop use (web is horribly slow)
>HTPC (Poor access to streaming as well as poor decoding)
>file server (100mbit, no raid, one shared USB)
The pi is ok, if you're really poor, for:
>web/various server
>seedbox for stuff you don't care about
The PIs are for:
Any of the above very temporarily and/or for learning
DIY "iot" devices
DIY portable devices
DIY anything you want really, like a FM radio transmitter
But the advantages come with the versatility.
It's very useful, cheap, and fun for robotics projects
servers are a race to low power so theyre fine for that. the USB-bus is shared across the nic and shit too so you're getting stupidly low speeds on any transfers but those speeds are perfectly reasonable for HTPC, not sure about their decoding. Don't they have a driver for hardware decoding now?
Paying for the extra is not how you use it.
You suppose to use what you already have.
Also it was meant to teach kids in poor countries about computers.
try an odroid ux4 for desktop replacement, OP
>gigabit ethernet
>arm based 64bit 8 core
>usb 3.0
>Emmc support
well to have any one of those things it's gotta have a better bus speed than meme pi garbage speeds.
These, a lot of people care more about the price benefits of the RPI rather than it's size advantages. It's a singleboard computer first, not a thinclient, definitely not meant to replace a desktop, my god. Bots are also a terrible example, half of the projects people mention for the device can either be done on a Computer you have, or in a virtual machine, but of course none of your coworkers will care about that.
Android devices are very closed down, ever tried programming on one, ever even thought about it? The Rpi is not a consumer oriented device, a tablet is, and people need to get that straight. I never bought a Rpi, however I've used my friend's before, I bought a Cubieboard which was a big mistake. Do not buy anything more obscure than the OrangePI, or you can forget about getting support. If you are really hell bent on buying a singleboard, KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH IT, otherwise prepare for a dusty paper weight. Like I said, there's not much about the thing that's special that an old x86 running Ubuntu can't handle. Power consumption, low maintenance, size, and open hardware like GPIO are its biggest qualities.
Pic related: I really wish RPI came with a custom install of Joe's Window Manager rather than LXDE. It really bothers me the developers are that wasteful and careless.
>inb4 nice blog
I've been reading about the damn thing since 2011, I have a lot to say.
>cubi more obscure than orangepi
Orange Pi is ancient chinese secrets tier. None of the default distro images are anything but trash. a #!-alike would be pretty great on that shit with a lighter weight browser, using stock debian over trash raspbian.
I always find it funny when people get overhyped by the NES classic, when it's really just an Allwinner Arm board no different than a OrangePI or Cubieboard
>#!-alike
The ironic thing about remix distributions is that anyone savvy enough to know they exist could just add those changes themselves. ElementaryOS is really just Ubuntu Pantheon Edition, but of course there wouldn't be any magical branding. However, I've thought about releasing my own JWM xml configuration and packaging desktop applets like wifi and sound because the wasted resource potential in the Rpi is painful.
well the magic of #! was a good premade openbox config. Doing that all yourself is tedious but it's a pretty good balance between lightweight featurelessness and ease-of-customization either way. Also preconfig'd applets would be nice for the desktop types I guess.
The reason to get a pi is the massive amount of community support around the thing. Otherwise an odroid or orangepi or whatever else is better.
I bring up applets because my goal would be to achieve the usability of LXDE, while sustaining the lightweight of JWM. I love PCManFM, but LXDE needs to fall off the face of the earth.
Well lxqt replaced most of the lxde applet shit, too. Used to be the least-dependency'd set of utils though, qt is pretty big for that style.
this. community literally means you can do more with it without any effort beyond watching a tutorial.
The Pi is a meme and mostly a ripoff because the vast majority seem to install some simple distribution and see that it's horrible for everything you'd normally do with a computer (media player, web browser and so on) and then it goes on a shelf or in a drawer - never to be used again.
If you actually need one for a specific project or purpose like a smart door lock then it's a good buy.
If you're smart, you can do awesome stuff with it.
Why would you use a raspberry pi to browse the web?
That's like using a Traktor to go on a road trip. Kinda works but it's not the intended use.
>If you actually need one for a specific project or purpose like a smart door lock then it's a good buy.
No it fucking isn't, you just buy a smart lock from amazon.
Anyone have a spare RPI they can donate
plz?
I know we all feel like we got fucked over by these things, but NetSurf is actually a decent browser that you can still run along almost anything, and it don't take shit from no one.
Nigger, Pi Zero is literally $5.
>b-but I need 3B+!
you don't. I fell for the 3B meme, I use it mostly to fuck with GPIO
can I make a ADSL router with it? it looks like it has ethernet and a NIC. But Also I need an RJ45 to connect to the ISP. Is this possible? Wireless NIC is not an issue to me currently, I just want to make an ADSL router and run linux on it (iptables, dhcp, pppoe, etc...)
Community support
What about vpn?
Any incentives to using it into router vs software on desktop?
Retropi is the tits. My father also set up a pihole which sounded kinda neat.
i use mine as a printer server
>Why is the raspberry pi pushed so much?
Probably basedboys/hipsters etcetera. wanting to get into Linux without actually using a PC.
That said, it is fun to do some embedded system programming on, however, the fucking datasheet is confidential, meaning each revision fucks your code up because they end up changing a heap of shit.
The pi is basically an arduino with an operating system and graphics. I use it for a kitchen computer with recipe search and a built in thermometer and speaker for timer. It's also fun for little arcade machines.
If you don't need the gpio, you're better off buying something else.
I have two. I use one as a git server and samba server, and the other as a gateway node for my WSN.
>retard buys a cheap universal computer marketed to DIY and learning communities
>complains it's not a consumer device and pretends it's been marketed as a consumer electronic
absolute state of Jow Forums
It's just another project tool it isn't meant to be used as a desktop kek.
I'm currently working on a pi project using the zero to make a drone that can carry half a pound and has an automatic solar docking station which also has a waterproofing mechanism.
It started as me trying to see how hard it would be for terrorists to mass produce these things and strap half a pound of tnt or something to it, it's pretty doable. I also lost a drone in a lake after the thing bugged which was like $350 worth of shit.
You can use them for learning bare metal programming. You can't really brick them, since all the important stuff is run by the graphics chip which you don't have access to.
robert trump
>not having a remote pi desktop and using your nice mech keys and mouse
>not buying chinkshit micro sds for 5$
>not using and old phone charger for the psu
>not having access to a 3d printer to make a case for less than 0.50$
Why can't people understand that the Pi is underpowered by design?
It's like buying a bicycle and then complaining that it is not a car.
The point of the pi is education. It's not for gaming, its not a desktop.
It needs to be cheap to reach the poorer parts of the world. And in that regard, the pi is a great success.
I use mine as a cheap mediaplayer and a retroconsole.
And i dont see why i should be ashamed about that when i look at how cheap it all was.
arduino is the superior option for most things
odroid is better too
>having a shitty ISP