This thread is about the appreciation of beads and watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a fine bead bracelet. watch, clock, or other timepiece.
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First for wrist game
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Check mine.
Superb wrist game my friend.
Thanks.
Don't know which one will get you more pussy, this or a 12 inch dick.
stop THE FUCKING BEADPOSTING RIGHT NOW
>giving the shitposters attention
Just ignore it.
join our discussion here:
What is the coolest patek watch in your opinion?
Grandmaster Chime
>Grandmaster Chime
This variant? Don't be lazy, it would be better if you post pic of the watch you're talking about.
Why don't I hear anyone talk about Hublot?
They're an upscale fashion brand.
Their entire schtick is based on copying the Royal Oak, which was itself pretty much the first true "it's luxury because it's mechanical" watch.
The name "hublot" even means "porthole", a reference to the shape of the Royal Oak-style bezel.
They're probably well made though. A postmodern mash-up of old-world haute horology and edgy designs and materials.
cause hublots are shit
> An oversized garish chad fashion watch
About as far from the usual /wt/ wristlet ideal as you can get.
But their watches don't look like royal oak anymore than a seiko looks like a rolex. Just because they have screws on the bezel doesn't make their watches copies of the royal oak. In fact they are quite dissimilar from RO as far as I can tell.
They're literally Royal Oak homages.
You're just an idiot.
I'm exploring the possibility that you are being snobbish and somewhat delusional. Why don't they look like RO then, if they are so-called homages? I mean, there is only one thing that is similar, and that is the screws. If you put a screw on the bezel of the Submariner, is it then a RO-homage?
Depends how you define 'cool'
Not only the cases are the problem, the movements often don't match the prices nor the status they try to portrait.
Wait a minute. This watch is quite similar of the royal oak. Do you see the shape of the bezel? Why are Patek being a RO homage? That is truly beneath them.
We've got a more serious problem at hand. Patek is copying AP. What are we gonna do about it?
Nah, you're an idiot.
I know you're being sarcastic, and you're only showing more of how much of an idiot you are.
Protip: the guy who designed that Patek is the same guy who designed the Royal Oak: Gerald Genta.
Patek hired him specifically to replicate the success of the Royal Oak with a similar design.
>Picking a blue dial watch
>not intantly going for the Chronometre Bleu
Are you ok, user?
Are you trolling or an idiot?
Those are Gerald Genta designs.
>Why are Patek being a RO homage?
Oh user, the Aquanaut was simply made to fit the sports watch niche. If you want the Patek RO then look no further.
That makes sense, because that design actually look more like a RO than the Hublot does.
But on a more serious note than my previous posts: Hublot does not look like RO. Only the screws. There are more similarities between a rolex and a seiko than a RO and a Hublot. So what's the problem? I mean this 100% serious.
What is this bead faggotry?
> blue dial
Because that wasn't the user's question.
Genta didn't design the Aquanaut, he designed the Nautilus.
>that design actually look more like a RO than the Hublot does.
Not really.
>Hublot does not look like RO
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Hublot hired Genta as well.
Y'all need to watch this
hodinkee.com
So Gerald made two different designs, and here you sit saying they are the same because he designed them both?
Let me tell you of my designs: Pic related. I made two designs. Both are made by the same person. Are the one a homage of the other just because I made them both? Doesn't seem like copies to me.
>here you sit saying they are the same because he designed them both?
The same? I never said they were the same.
But they do share the same design language. "Gerald Genta-esque" is very much a thing in the watch world.
Design language. Ok, but you can say that about rolex and seiko. I don't see anyone calling the other a homage of the other.
That says they hired him to revitalise the big bang, not that he designed it.
Doesn't matter how they started. Hublot aren't know as a RO copy these days, but for fucking huge ugly watches worn by rappers and basketball players.
>Ok, but you can say that about rolex and seiko.
They often share design languages, yes.
And some Seikos are definitely Rolex homages.
And why would they do that?
Virtually every watch Gerald Genta was even remotely involved in, has obviously shared the RO design language.
In fact, sometimes watch brands even falsely claimed Genta was involved in a "Genta-esque" design when he wasn't, like with the Vacheron Constantin Overseas.
>Hublot aren't know as a RO copy these days
Not a "copy", but definitely inspired by the RO.
In fact it's gotten even worse with the Overseas vs Big Bang.
Try using words and not meme pics. The Aquanaut was nothing do with the Genta apart from the fact he pretty much invented the sport watch.
>The Aquanaut was nothing do with the Genta (Nautilus)
You have severe autism.
I was kinda disappointed that the Semenmaster logo was stamped too shallow and now it's disappeared under all the scrathes, but I went at it with an old, dried up Cape Cod cloth for a good three minutes, and there it is!
So, why is it ok when others do it, but not with Hublot?
could have just said niggers
>Why
Because he is a great designer and having his name behind a product is a massive draw. Why would swatch get artists to design a watch? Same reasons.
So every watch with that port hole bezel was designed by Genta then?
Hey guys watch newfag here. I've always used my phone for timekeeping because it automatically updates the time via the internet. However, I have to count frequencies on a daily basis and it's way too slow to pick up phone, unlock it and start a chronometer app, so I reached the conclusion I need an actual watch. I might as well get something good.
What should I buy
>why is it ok when others do it
I don't mind.
It's just that "Genta-esque" is pretty much all Hublot has ever done. The guy who founded Hublot basically made a cheaper (quartz) version of the Royal Oak design.
He did blaze a trail for rubber watch straps though. So kudos.
And today's Big Bangs are gaudy and ostentatious pieces of shit.
Digital?
Quartz?
What type of work environment?
Will you baby it?
Price?
Any type of design you like?
I assembled and oiled the movement, but I haven't regulated it yet. It's a pretty nice, simple, straightforward movement.
The screwheads weren't mangled by me, that was some other watchmaker before me.
Read the rest of that post.
Anything with that design language was either designed by Genta, or inspired by him. Absolutely.
Or maybe automatic?
The ex-PM of my country and his wife loved Hublots
Unlucky.
Still needs a new crown (to restore WR, though I'll of course never actually take it near water) and a new crystal (for aesthetics).
For some reason the minute hand was "crushed" in the middle with the black paint cracking, so I straightened out the lume gap and filled it back up with gloss black paint. However it's lost some of its chrome plating. Don't know what happened to it, the dial is fine, and the crystal looks genuine Omega.
I'll keep it on a gray NATO for now, but I'll get a leather strap for it and an aftermarket Omega buckle.
>Digital?
I've always preferred digital but I find that it's easier to count frequencies by visually looking at the watch's 180 degree motion/30 seconds or 90 degree motion/15 seconds; this way it's easier for me to focus on counting occurrences of events such as heart beats.
>Quartz?
I'm sorry I'm not educated enough on the subject to evaluate this choice. I'm assuming it's the material of something? If it's a more resistant material, then yes.
>What type of work environment?
Office environment. May come into contact with bodily fluids accidentally. May have long powdered gloves worn on top of it.
>Will you baby it?
I try my best to take good care of everything I own. I will read the manual and/or internet guides and follow whatever cleaning and maintenance instructions are written on it.
>Price?
Doesn't matter, as long as it's good and reliable.
>Any type of design you like?
Big watch with a simple design, but I appreciate any additional features it may have.
A member of government here has a vintage gold Rolex Bubbleback.
There was a shitstorm around the price of the watch (muh tax monies), but honestly as a watchfag I can't be mad at him.
The rest of your post is pretty irrelevant to his involvement in the Big Bang / Hublot designs. Which the post with the link tried to imply he was.
He is a great designer and was very influential. So what, you can see that in many industries. The point is he had nothing to do with the Big Bang / Hublot which he didn't.
You should know what the Grandmaster Chime is.
There's a big difference between Genta being directly involved (RO & Nautilus) and everything else using that as inspiration for the then new sports watch market. Normies don't know who Genta was they just know that if they want a sporty watch they usually come in a certain shape and brands make watches to fit that.
>However, I have to count frequencies on a daily basis
Maybe you need a watch with a pulsometer scale? I'm not sure but I think that's what pulsometers are for.
>a Journe is the coolest Patek
???
He can have my vote for having such good watch taste.
Oh so a medical type environment? Would you like a pulsometer on it?
Zepmind.
Other than that he was a bourgeois cunt. He seems to have fallen out of favor now though.
>The rest of your post is pretty irrelevant to his involvement in the Big Bang / Hublot designs.
No it isn't.
His name was associated with Hublot from the very beginning, it was always obviously a Royal Oak homage, see No watch brand in their right mind would associate the Genta name with a design that didn't specifically follow the Genta design language.
There are watches that Genta was not involved in that look more like the Royal Oak than watches that Genta was involved in.
"Genta-esque" is a very distinct design language. Get over it.
Yeah. I think those watches look really good.
>pulsometer
I didn't realize this was a thing. Sounds like something I need. Let me read about it.
Casio Oceanus OCW-S100, since you seem to want something accurate.
What's the difference between an 8R28 and an 8R39.
11
Crazy coincidence.
So that addresses the digital part well.
Quartz or mechanical is a question of how much do you want to take care if it, how much you want to spend, will you knock it against anything. Mechanical are more expensive, and need more care.
I would suggest looking for a quartz chronograph with a scale you would find useful.
Probably just the complications
He had as much of a hand in the design as I did. Watch this and pay attention.
So yes your irrelevant rambling is irrelevant.
>a Journe is the coolest Patek
Not the same user, but yes it is.
Biver is retarded.
>I'll get a leather strap for it and an aftermarket Omega buckle.
Autism.
As far as I can tell, all the watches containing the 2 movements have the same complications but I could be wrong
Not saying I don't, I'm saying that it's annoying when people don't post pictures. I like pictures because if they are nice then they go in my folder.
I sure the ultra rich and very successful businessman cares what some child on /wt/ thinks about him.
Yes user on Jow Forums. You know more about a brand than the key man involved in it.
[Spoiler] you are the retard [/we don't have spoilers here]
You're the kind of person who thinks salesmen know everything about a product, right?
I'm sure Biver absolutely isn't biased towards his brand. He's also led all the brands he directed to make very nice and tasteful watches. :^)
>Specialized “medical watches” have a pulsometer at the edge of the dial.
>This is a specially calibrated tachymeter used to determine heart rate.
I read that a tachymeter is used to measure how fast something is going. You start the timer at some point, wait for object to move and then stop the timer, and read the velocity on the calibrated scale.
>Start the chronograph timer and count the beats until you get to the number for which the scale is calibrated — usually 15, sometimes 30.
>Stop the timer and read the heart rate in beats per minute.
>A related scale, often found on the same watch, is the asthmometer, used to determine a patient’s respiratory rate.
>The scale is read the same way and is typically calibrated to five respirations.
That sounds seriously amazing, really fast operation. I would really like an asthmometer too. I hope there's room for it on the watch.
Depending on what this care involves I won't mind having to perform it. I have tools and learned how to maintain my own simple medical equipment myself. As long as I can do it myself without having to ask a specialist, it's probably OK.
I probably won't knock the watch against anything hard, but fluids might fall on it. I'll probably have gloves on, though. They're usually long enough to cover watches, but I can't count on that 100% of the time.
Watch the Hodinkee video. He actually has a really good collection especially Pateks. Definitely not what you'd expect from him.
He does understands classic watches but that doesn't stop him also making butt-ugly watches that sell (Hublot)
This is a seriously good looking watch. I really like the dark dial with blue details. Is there a version of it with the aforementioned pulsometer and asthmometer?
Not at all but if you watch that video he talks about what your talking about directly.
Same inspiration for the design leads to similar designs. One doesn't have to be a copy of the other. But you know this and are just """pretending""" to be a retard.
I said god damn!
Is montblac a good brand to consider spending significant money on? If not, why?
Their "in house" stuff seems worth it. In general no it's over priced for what you get.
I've seen the video when it came out. He's despicable.
I need to freeze myself for a few days until the new watch arrives.
I've seen the video. He was CEO of Hublot. Of course he's going to defend the brand.
Which watch?
The Minerva movements are pretty cool.