>News Signature Plastics PBT SA update: The new SA-P tooling is very close to being production ready. First article parts are being evaluated and sublimation fixtures are being fabricated. We are targeting the end of June for the first sublimated sets to be available. SA-P "Industrial" Keyset will be the first production keyset. It will first be offered as a sculptured R1,1,2,3,4,4 keyset. The SA-P keys have a fine textured finish on the top and sides of the keys similar to the G20 family. We will only be offering SA-P keys in PBT as either blank keys or sublimated keys. ABS keys or two-shot keys will not be options with this tooling.
New Kailh switches: Kaihua released two new products. Sun Switch PG1511B with its center lighting design similar to romer-g, but with MX compatible stems. However the pins are not the same and they only come in a clicky version so far Specification: Size:15*15*14.8mm Operation Force:50+/-10gf Tactile Force:55+/-10gf Pretravel: 1.8+/-0.5mm Total Travel:3.5+/-0.3mm Lifespan:50 million cycles
And the Notebook Switch PG1316 an ultra low profile switch intended for use in notebooks like the name implies with a total height of just 4.26mm Specification: Size:14*14.5*4.36mm Operation Force:55+/-15gf Pretravel: 1.1+/-0.3mm Total Travel:1.9+/-0.3mm Lifespan:20 million cycles
I don't know what happened to the last few threads, but I figured I'd try something new and add some news. I thought there would be more shitposting since it's the first day of summer, but it's a bit nice with things moving on slowly
Are sub-60% keyboards a meme? They look pretty, but they don't seem very convenient for actual day-to-day use. The TKL to 60% jump makes sense since you're removing horizontal space and not losing any super-important keys, but you're not gaining nearly as much desk space going any smaller.
Chase Reyes
the only sub 60% keyboards that organizations actually spend money on are steno-keyboards, but those specialized tools designed for typing ludicrously fast. You can program with them surprisingly well, but that requires you to learn how to type completely differently
I mean they can be nice for traveling, if you're the kind of autist who takes their keyboard with them. Or I guess in other situations where you have very limited space - like, I dunno, in bed or something. Sounds somewhat dumb and niche, but it's a valid reason.
If you have a normal desk and want to use your keyboard on it, though? Definitely no point. Even 60% is a meme - if you wanna go a bit smaller than TKL, get a 75%. Probably 65% is the very limit and even that's pushing it a lot.
Noah Walker
Putting numbers on the homerow was one of the best things I ever did. I feel this is much more convenient, everything is right under my fingers at all times.
>numbers on the homerow that's actually not a bad idea, but I still prefer them on a pad
John White
No. The smaller the keyboard, the better you are at computers
Ethan Foster
Numbers on homerow for use while typing text and entering a couple of digits here and there Numbers on a pad for use when entering long strings of numbers
Numbers on the number row literally never
David Gonzalez
Thoughts on buying keyboards secondhand?
Hudson Miller
How long does it take PMK to make and ship their dye sub PBT DSA caps? Anyone know?
Benjamin Bell
depends on the keyboard
Benjamin Johnson
should be fine just have the cum solvent at the ready
Joshua Sanchez
Only way to get the really cool stuff from the 70's and early 80's unless you got a time machine.
I've been slowly downsizing my board purely from getting annoyed at staggered layouts and reaching for keys. I found a pretty good compromise of using an xd75 at home and taking a niu mini with me to class/work
Landon Wood
I put them in a number pad like layout on another layer where 4 is under J
Ian Flores
I have a Model F XT, and I'd love to use a keyboard with similar switches on my desktop. The layout, loudness, and 5-pin DIN of the Model F dissuade me from using it, however.
What's the most similar-feeling, if quieter, switch that's on PS/2 keyboards? Preferably =
Kayden Rogers
PS/2 or USB, I guess. Also no rare keyboards, I'm not rich. I've been eyeing Alps Black but the actuation force seems a bit high.
Eli Morris
Literally a Model F AT. Boy have F's balloned in price the last year though. I remember when you could get XT's for less than $30 in great shape fairly recently.
Lucas Gonzalez
nothing can really replecate the feel of buckling springs, however the closest I've tried was pale blues
>OP pic i guess some kids never grew out of stamp collecting
Juan Ward
Yes
>mfw i have to bend over backwards 'fixing' keyboard shorcuts i can't reach on my autism% keyboard. >mfw wife/kid/friend/coworker can't use my PC due to my autism% keybard
> mfw i have to bend over backwards 'fixing' keyboard shorcuts i can't reach on my autism% keyboard. What? With a proper layout there is literally zero trouble with any shortcuts. The very worst that can happen is that you have to press an extra key. And because the keyboard is tiny as fuck there's no such thing as "can't reach" anyway
> mfw wife/kid/friend/coworker can't use my PC due to my autism% keybard My layout is set to Workman so they wouldn't be able to anyway
Matthew Carter
why should anyone else be using my keyboards or my PC. They are mine and I will make/use them how I like
Ayden Sullivan
you know, that might be a good idea to stop my roommates from playing fortnite on my pc. plus i've always wanted to try an ortholinear 40% keyboard
honestly if you have roommates and you don't lock your PC when you leave it, you're retarded
Chase Scott
There's always unicomp model ms in both ps/2 and usb, but they are louder if anything
Grayson Peterson
I don't know of any studies about RSI, I do know that various metrics - like finger travel distance, and both hand and finger balance - are terrible for qwerty. I like Workman more than others like Colemak because it doesn't add much stress on pinkies (something both dvorak and colemak are guilty of, due to "finger balance"), and it was made with ortholinear keyboards in mind.
In the end it's up to you to decide if it's worth it. Definitely don't do it for the speed gains, that's a complete meme. I personally took the plunge because I was typing with about 4-5 fingers on qwerty, wanted to do better for the sake of my joints, and decided to learn an actually optimized layout rather than the mostly-random qwerty while I was at it. If you touch type qwerty properly and are above 100WPM (I was at 90-ish before switching) it might not be worth it.
Christopher Lewis
>stop my roommates from playing fortnite on my pc. Password lock? What are you a cuck?
Brayden Cook
Nice, what switches?
I still have stretching out the innermost column to 1.5u on my todo list
Joseph Gonzalez
OwO what's this. Something arrived here. I wonder what it is. I'll give you a hint, it's big, heavy and might be black
What soldering stations would you guys recommend. I'm not planning on making a fully custom keyboard. I just want to replace the switches of my ducky keyboard. I've been looking at amazon.com/Weller-WLC100-40-Watt-Soldering-Station/dp/B000AS28UC and was wondering if that's a good buy. Also what kind of solder should I use? is 60 tin 40 lead what everyone uses?
Hudson Kelly
> I'll give you a hint, it's big, heavy and might be black Nigger dildo
Parker Brown
The case and plate for my 4704 model F I'm still waiting for the foam sheet so I can put it back together
Box royal with box navy springs in them. One thing I noticed however is there's a small gap (1mm ish) between the 1.5u column and the column next to it. I'll probably just file down the switch hole and hot glue the switches in to fix that, but the model itself should be changed too.
Robert Adams
top yee
Brayden Long
Nice. How much did the powedercoating cost for all that?
Oliver Hernandez
It's not cheap. It costs 80 bucks, but they were quick and did it in 10 days. Also there was some mold like thing and rust spots, as well as the foam disintegrating into this sludge like substance, so they made sure to clean everything before powder coating it. If I had done a single color it would've been cheaper, but I wanted to match the originals as best as I can. They didn't have the exact paint and making it would've been too much so I just settled for the closest one they had.
When buying individual switches, how many extra should I buy from my needed amount in case of damage or failure of some switches? Generally speaking.
Carson Clark
No more than 2 I'd imagine. That's smart though user. Fail safe redundancy.
Luke Anderson
depends who you're buying from, a lot of sellers throw in extra switches anyway
like, buy 30, get 32, etc
Jose Bennett
Just bought this for 5 USD at goodwill, works like a dream. You guys are losers for wasting money on this shit. It's just a keyboard no need to get all autistic about it.
also, the current reasonable goal is to ship by the end of this year, most components are already done. so (hopefully) it shouldn't be a year really
Tyler Walker
What the fuck is up with the 6 key
Ryan Miller
>he does all this research >he buys all these boutique parts and switches and puts it together >he spills coke or some shit on it within a week of having it
This isn't one of you, isn't it?
Juan Rogers
Hellboy clone from AliExpress, sharper design than the original, and cheap as fuck
no im not retarded, it's trivial to not spill stuff
Adrian Martin
I'd imagine it all depends on what it's used for. Obviously for normie activities, your goodwill pick up would be fine. If one is coding all day/night, a more "autistic" solution may be in order.
I dont mind not having them, just wanted to try my luck. I strongly prefer a 100% layout and im ok with regular caps.
Just want a nice board that wont brick on me.
Jonathan Martin
Well the best full size keyboard you can buy right now is a Leopold 900r PD. There's nothing that can compete in terms of build quality, but it's a bit above your budget. If you want a good RGB keyboard there's this amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B01D3BDN60
Cameron Ross
What's the build quality of Vortex keyboards? I'm considering picking up a 75% for work and there doesn't seem to be a ton out there.
Ian Cooper
Looks good, actually. Thanks
Jace Sanchez
They have some issues with their dye-sub legends, but as far as everything else it's actually pretty nice. The metal case does give it some heft
Xavier Carter
Actually, what caps would be best to replace for the windows key? Im not a fan of their logo on those caps.
Hudson Wright
>$140 - $160 >small enough >hotswappable switches >basically perfect latency >(supposedly) ultra smooth linears (curious if the tactiles are as smooth) >detachable cable >analog which is cool too I guess
Should I skip wallet-eating scenic route of this "hobby" and just get this?
Pretty damn neato really, especially the analog firmware. I prefer the big old terminals, but this and the Ace Pad Hall Effect and the redone Model F's are all new boards I want.
Chase Allen
>Should I skip wallet-eating scenic route Yes. I went full topre for my first/only keyboard because I knew I'd get the itch to get one anyway.
Xavier Hernandez
Does anyone know where i can get an ergodox kit? they seem to be sold out in most places...
I have a vibe (78%) and I really love it. The quality is perfect besides one misaligned legend and some sprew marks on the backs of a few keys. I will probably replace them with a SA-P set when signature plastics starts producing them.
Anthony James
I can't believe such an ugly keyboard is one of the most used. Something about the shiny keycaps and that bottom notch along with those elonged keys is vomit inducing. Logitech K120 is better and looks way better than this abomination.
Daniel Moore
The up arrow of my Model M just malfunctioned. Now every time I connect the keyboard the up arrow acts like it is always depressed, when I press the down arrow key it stops, but after that the up arrow key no longer works.
Please help is this a common malfunction that can be fixed easly, I really want to enjoy this meme keyboard a few months more.
Why doesn't /mkg/ open up a kickstarter just to buy Unicomp new factory equipment. I swear my dad's old Model M is sturdier and feels more solid than this badly produced trash. Got to give Unicomp props to keep producing Model M's but jesus, get new equipment already.