Do you prefer external hd/ssd or an enclosure with an internal hd/ssd?

portable vs not portable
also
>NAS vs homeserver
>why.jpg

This. The less you move your storage, the better off you shall be

>be me
>aunt is the town clerk
>all data stored on an external HDD
>7+ years of official documents and shit
>HDD falls down while plugged in
>USB breaks off board
>comes to me
>"user, can you get my data out?"
>icantry.jpeg
>order new board from aliexpress
>arrives bent to shit
>fuckit
>tell her no way I can get it out
>being sensitive data, she takes a hammer to it

This was last year.

>become sysadmin for council house
>order synology station + 8TB Reds
>no issue since, runs like greased lightning

> an enclosure with an internal hd/ssd?
This. Data extraction in the former is more complicated.

What is the difference?

I use a sata to usb adapter with a 12v charger in case of 3,5"

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>they get too hot in there
haha what a retard

What? Heat's bad for HDDs too. There's a reason the drives have temp sensors and decent cases have a fan on the 3.5" bays.

what fucking moron keeps a drive plugged in long enough for it to get warm, and what kinds of retard gets high-rpm drives for backup? what the fuck is wrong with you people?

>usb breaks, smash with a hammer
Did you try just taking the drive out?

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....you understand that external hdds are just regular sata drives in a box right? Either buy a sata to USB cable or disk caddy or just put the thing in your computer and assign a drive letter.

The board on this one was pretty much standard, BUT no sata. It didn't have a SATA connection, just a miniUSB connector, which broke off.

I took the thing apart, out of the shitty samsung casing, it was an S2 portable, HXMU025DA/G22 if anyone has the patience to look at the inside.

I took it apart in hopes of connecting my Sata to USB adapter. Found out there was no SATA to be found, just a miniUSB socket that got fucked.

One thing I'd compare the mainboard to is a smartphone board. Bunch of bullshit and a USB connector on one end. This board was connected to the drive via some pads that were just barely touching.

>enclosure with an internal hd/ssd
quality drive and easy to service + cheaper

>enclosure with an internal hd/ssd
This is what happens to the hard drives I take out of my laptops when I install ssds

Internal without enclosure. I use a sata mobile rack. Much faster than usb.

Seriously what is the difference? I've never seen an "external HDD" with anything inside other than an internal drive and a controller.

You actually end up using them though? I made two and they just sit in my closet.

>You actually end up using them though? I made two and they just sit in my closet.
that's because you do nothing of value and you have nothing to backup

what some dumb nigger in this thread don't know is that some shitty external hdds aren't sata and they cheap out so much that they have a usb port directly on the hdd board. so if that fails, you're fucked unless you get a board from the same model hdd but with a sata port. that's very unlikely to be handy, though

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External Harddrive is prepackage with all the components while the enclosure require you to buy the enclosure and buy the internal harddrive. If the former fail, it would be quite hard to extract the data from it. If the latter fail, it usually the enclosure and you could just buy a new one and use the harddrive that was place in the earlier enclosure. Or just hook it up to your computer.

i prefer shit apricorn makes. its all encrypted at the hardware level. they sell 3.5" enclosures with keypads on them and encrypt the entire drive, etc. also their flashdrives have the same keyoad and hardware level encryption. the 3.5" drive enclosures do come with a drive that you can choose the size of, but their tech support said its fine to switch the hdd out with your own since their device does not need any oarticular hdd and theirs isnt special. i got a new hgst 12 tb and put it into one of their enclosures, i bought their smallest capacity and took then sold the drive it came with.

lol buddy thats not how it works. even though that is nearly 100 non existant, il allow room for some manufacturer to have made an hdd controller that you can swap the stock one off of a particular drive and replace it with one that has a usb controller only, but i think your 16 year old mind just miss took the sata to usb contriller board they screw on to the sata connector of hdds for some backup drives like wds mybook backup drives.

I use 2.5 inch HDDs in enclosures because the normal ones are shit. Basically, they used to be normal disks with a SATA interface inside there with a USB adapter. Now the ones from WD and whatnot just have the USB interface soldered in. So if that USB port breaks then my data is fucking gone if I can't solder that fucking thing back. With the encousure I can just pull the HDD out and plug it into my PC with another cheap adapter and buy another enclosure.

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Internal HDDs in a file server, backed up to crashplan.

Exactly what i said, nigger, but good luck finding a sata board for your specific hdd model

??? sata is the same on every drive that has sata. not drive specific.

How are my passports?
The 4TB ones are cheaper than buying a 4TB laptop drive and sticking it in a decent enclosure

SATA itself is a universal standard but the board on the HDD that provides it isn't, you'll need a controller board compatible with your HDD

I'm wondering whether everyone in this thread is fucking retarded

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>buy rugged, waterproof, shockproof USB 3.1 2.5" enclosure with build in USB cable and be fucking set. Indestructible, portable, what the fuck else do you need other than network capabilities?

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You are retarded.

>Seriously what is the difference? I've never seen an "external HDD" with anything inside other than an internal drive and a controller.
Some manufacturers used custom pcbs for external HDDs which only had an USB port on it, not a sata one
No idea if that's still a thing though

Dude, just subscribe to the cloud maaan
got myself a 1tb for cheap

y u no solder new USB connector?

>showing off your porn in cloud
Naw

1) I was a soldering virgin
2) the traces were fucked to all hell

>y u no
kys

It is and it's still shit.

Get an old computer, install a real operating system, throw a bunch of internal drives in it and build a raid array. Then set up a network share and VPN and bam, you have cloud storage in your own home.
Does depend on your own internet speed though.

>Do you prefer external hd/ssd or an enclosure with an internal hd/ssd?
In either case it just needs to work well, but I generally don't care much. It's ultimately just non-redundant storage either way. Might as well be an USB stick if the data amount is small enough.

The thing you should put more consideration into is the redundant storage that you want to be more robust than a single drive; the one where you'd mind if data got lost.

samefag and you are retarded, for the last time, we are not talking about the actual fucking hdd controller board you fuckwit. we are talking about a sata to usb controller.

>Get faulty part
>Abandon entire project
Imagine being this pathetic.

>some shitty external hdds aren't sata and they cheap out so much that they have a usb port directly on the hdd board
Not samefag and we're talking a controller board.

Imo, external toshiba or WD HDD is the best option out of those. Many of the HDD/SSD enclosures break the connectors over the time

I have never seen an "external" hdd that wasn't just an internal hdd hooked up to a satausb converter

The USB interface is directly connected to the HDD controller. There's no SATA port in between, only SATA signals. This is cheap and it prevents people from buying relatively cheaper external hard drvies and using them as an internal drive. Not only that, you have no idea what type of obfuscation is going on in between. Controllers on WD drives are well known to encrypt the shit out of your data regardless if you want it to or not.

I have a few that are straight USB 3.0 micro B

In his defense, what was there to gain? A handjob from his aunt?

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Hi, me again.

She specifically told me not to bother.