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What do you guys use to read books? is getting something with e-ink worth it or is it better to get a cheap tablet?
Is there a good alternative to kindle? don't really like amazon stuff and they seem to limit what books you can put on it (not being able to put random pdfs and epubs without DRM is my primary concern).
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Are there ANY e-ink readers that don't have a bezel the size of the sun?
>What do you guys use to read books?
A lamp, a book, and a bookmark
The Kindle Paperwhite series has been by far my favorite, since I owned the original Nook and was looking for something comparable.
>b-but user, that's part of the aesthetic of books!
Nah, I don't think so, partly due to the way E-Ink panels are currently designed. Pic related.
This is still the best answer.
I've got a kindle paperwhite 3, it's bretty good for text books, can be acceptable for PDFs after you jailbreak and put koreader on it. If you want to read mangas or technical books, get a kobo aura one.
Hardly, since they're sidelit.
So portable.
yeah that's pretty fucking good until you take a look at book prices
Thanks, I'll take a look at those two.
Also good to know there's a way to jailbreak it, I'll keep that in mind.
just go to the library babo
I'm too autistic to go outside
I'm sure in the shitty 2-floors library of my town they've latest translated chapter of danmachi available.
Unless you're in the city centre frequently, libraries here are minuscule. If I was still attending uni there I would for sure.
that's what reading anime gets you
Kindle paperwhite in flight mode, pirate the books.
Small town life with big city tastes. You only have yourself to blame.
All I see when I pass bookstores are depressing SoL novels. They'd probably kick me out if I asked for fantasy books.
Kobo is a good alternative to kindle since it's environment isn't so closed and commercialised (no restriciton on file extensions (azm or mobi on kindle) and less advertising)
I recommend the Kobo Clara HD
It's perfect to read all my programming books i either bought at humble bundle, downloaded at LibGen or in a pdf/e-book sharing thread on Lainchan
Also it's great for uni stuff if your lectures upload all material digitally and for reading chinese comics
I don't read books
is it possible to unjailnreak it ?
I love reading the settings screen
>malaria gookey
>read for 5 hours
>it starts dimming
>2 hours later it's too dark to read
>have to buy batteries every day
what an investment
>wanting to touch mangled books someone probably read in the bathroom while taking a shit and didn't wash his hands
enjoy your hepatitis
this
>(no restriciton on file extensions (azm or mobi on kindle) and less advertising)
just use calibre to convert to mobi
This is the best answer.
Books are very cheap if you buy them used.
They are indeed cheap if bought used but I don't really like them taking so much space.
Same reason I don't buy CDs or physical games anymore.
Environment and file compatibility are 100% completely meaningless. These things should not affect your purchase decision even in the slightest.
You remember more of a book you read a physical copy of and you can take notes in the margins of an actual book. Reader notes are an impractical feature that really only exists so the producers can say it's there and I doubt anyone ever used productively. It's literally better to type notes manually into a separate app on your phone or something. It's also easier to look at several things at once.
In regards to price, convenience (e.g. hotlinking and search function), portability and legibility readers are superior to books.
Conclusion: For novels and general entertainment, you use readers. For textbooks you use physical books.
Yes, just update it.
I wanna eink laptop so bad!!!
>Sup, Jow Forums
>What do you guys use to read books? is getting something with e-ink worth it or is it better to get a cheap tablet?
>Is there a good alternative to kindle?
Yes get a kobo. They are the shit
If I use Koreader on a Kindle, will I still be able to use the included dictionary? Why should I jailbreak if I don't mind using calibre and airplane mode? Will this hinder the look up features?
>to get a cheap tablet?
This. Check 32gb 2017 iPad price, it's chap as fuck and pretty good.
I have a kindle 3g that works fine
doesn't read many formats, no backlight but decent keyboard and battery life. It was free so I can't complain
Bad idea, iPad for Video/Music/surfing, paperwhite for Reading.
Because Not staring into the light especially in the evening; battery runtime around 30 days with daily reading; finally no notifications and other distractions
Big bezels are comfy and practical on an ereader.
Check this shit out, it's the Sony prs 505. It's pretty much the Thinkpad of e readers. You can flash a custom firmware on it called PRS+ which adds several neat features. The e reader has a lot of cool features such as
>Micro SD card support
>Music player
>Adjustible margins
>Good format compatibility
It's also incredibly cheap on eBay. There exist a cool case for it which adds a front light.
Kindle Oasis 2 has small bezels on three sides. Display is 7" and very comfy to read.
you need bezels so you can fucking hold the ereader, dumbass
this looks great, but I have a kobo glo HD and can't go back to a low PPI screen. 300PPI for text is fucking amazing.
I read them here, I wait until someone greentexts a part of it. So far it worked with half of scip, the bible, and the art of the deal which I read twice
Will e-ink screens ever get use for anything that isn't an e-reader? They have benefits over your standard IPS or LCD screen, but there are also issues to be solved.
For your interest, this is awful advice. That reader is obsolete garbage. It was fine in 2007, but it's worse than just about everything on the market today.
I wanted to try a ereader but a cheap tablet with an app for controlling brightness is enough.
No, the technology is not suited for anything but displaying unchanging images.
Tablets are too big and heavy for someone who reads a lot, but if you don't read a lot, you might as well use an app on your phone (Moon+).
i use my note 4. nice screen, and don't have to deal with eye travel. i just hold it in one hand and use the volume keys to turn the page.
do kindles actually have to be jailbroken now? i remember giving my mom one, and when i was fucking around with it i could download shit from a calibre server. wasn't preferable, but worked. sucks if you still can't do that easily.
I own a Kindle 4 from 2011, works great and I have 0 reasons to change it.
>reading danmachi
I actually just got the asus zenpad 3s 10. I absolutely love it. It has the classy iPad feel, but complete android. Also, I use Lithium to reas books on it because the library has a nicer UI than other reading apps I've used.
>do kindles actually have to be jailbroken now
No.
>download shit from a calibre server
I don't know whether that is possible, I don't know anyone who does that.
There's a bunch of good reasons though, but if you're happy with it that's fine.
I own an Oasis 2 and it is a phenomenal device. I would highly recommend it for anyone that's a serious reader and can dish out extra coin for a premium device; everyone else should probably look at the Paperwhite 3. Rumor has it that the PW4 is going to come out soon.
The Voyage is worth the price increase over the Paperwhite for serious readers. The Oasis has too many features I don't care about (who the fuck wants audio that doesn't even support a jack in an age where everyone has a smart phone that does the job better than the oasis ever could) and is thus too expensive for what little it offers over the Voyage. I hope they release an improved Voyage this year, it's about time.
Pretty happy with my Kindle Paperwhite. I'd use real books if i haven't run out of bookshelf space and refuse to sell them.
got a kindle like 7 years ago, maybe more, and it still works
I have no idea how the new ones are but I just load PDFs into mine and it just werks
Also used to buy used books to a junkie when I was going to Uni, a book with soft cover beats a kindle/tablet any day but ebook readers are defiintely more convenient and cheaper, also good luck finding a good bookstore who either sells cheap or used books in a small city.
>pic related cuz I was reading Cain W40K series thro PDFs after buying one of the books
I am considering buying a BQ Cervantes 4.
The firmware is open source and it has all the bells and whistles like a frontlight and a high PPI display.
If anyone has a better idea, please do come forth. The requirements are basically: Last longer than 6 months (my experience of the Kobo Mini), frontlight, firmware which is open source or easy to replace with some open source firmware without having to jump through hoops and without voiding warranty (it must not only be easy to replace but the available open source firmware must not suck). Also, if there are spare parts available for fixing in the future that would be great.
I can't stand readying off a tablet or phone. Between the bright light, and glossy screen it's literally a headache.
Can you bring 18 consecutive volumes with you on vacation and keep them in your pocket?
You need the bezel to hold. Stop drinking the phone koolaids.
Tablets suck for reading. Kindles are okay. Real books are best.
Looks like a 50% more expensive Paperwhite, so why not get that instead?
Stop posting retarded shit. You have no idea what you're talking about. Just don't post.
>Can you bring 18 consecutive volumes with you on vacation
If you feel the need to take 18 consecutive volumes with you then you are not on 'vacation'.
>18 consecutive volumes with you on vacation
Who reads more than one book on vacation?
Novels are great on ereaders of any size.
Reference material depends on what kind. Some of them were horrible on my ereader because it was mostly colored images. Others were great because you can easily search for words.
Manga really needs a 7" or bigger screen and they take up a lot of space.
Your library has two fucking floors?
How wide is it?
Depends on what you want: budget, price/perf or the very best?
>budget
I would recommend a 2nd hand Sony reader like
Or the ones 600 (pic related)
They are very cheap in eBay and local Craiglist
>Price/perf
Kindle Paperwhite
>Best
Either the kobo aura one or the TheGoodReader
TGR is a bit more than a dresser so probably the aura one
The aura one is the jewel of the crown or regular ereaders for me
Large, high res, high contrast screen, backlight to read in dark places with a f.lux like system to make it easier to read in the night (you can decide to activate or deactivate it), water resistant so you can use it while taking a bath or under the rain
I got a current gen paperwhite Kindle on ebay for 32 bucks. It has one deep scratch that is only visible on max brightness.
Was more proving a point than anything, but last trip I took I finished three volumes (and I'ma fairly slow reader), mostly reading at night, but if you've never read on the beach listening to the waves I genuinely feel bad for you.
I got a used Paperwhite for 25€ and I fuckin love it.
Also the assholes complaining about bezels on an e-reader have probably never used one.
Where do you fucking hold a bezel-less reader? The page?
I could see it with a "hold" button of some kind but then I would have to press the button and then skip page and then press again?
Makes no sense
lenovo tb3-850f
really decent experience. made me turn from paper to digital because of the cost of speciality books. never looked back.
>TheGoodReader
That literally doesn't exist.
>just use calibre to convert to mobi
Conversions look like shit, mobi doubly so as it doesn't have any formatting.
Why go through all that hassle for a mangled result when there are multiple ereaders available that, unlike the Kindle, don't have restrictions at a level even apple wouldn't dare to implement?
I read around 6 hours fiction a day and a cheap 7" tablet such as the Amazon fire 7, flashed with LineageOS is my preferred reader. I own and have tried multiple eink devices but prefer using a tablet. The size isn't much different from my preferred smaller ereaders, way smaller than my preferred larger (10-13") eink ereaders, weight isn't a problem in the slightest and still lighter than a medium paperback. I get 14-15 hours SoT and 15-21 day standby during any periods I'm unable to read much.
I don't get the eye strain others mention from reading LCD, even when reading for 18 hours straight (did this two days in a row recently when binging some Dragonlance shlock in an effort to relive my youth) and the extra options for layout and formatting moon+ gives make it invaluable.
Isn't the rumor that the voyage is being dropped?
Real books now give me an headache within an hour of starting reading, ereaders and tablets don't. I can go traveling and take 10,000 books with me, always having a choice of what to read, while I could only take 3 or 4 paper books before being bogged down. I can move home without having to pack up and transport 7500 books, then unpack them at the other end. I sold off my paper book collection--other than some favorites--about five years ago and it was the best thing I ever did.
Sorry I meant reMarkable
The good e-reader on the other does exist but it's shit
>Conversions look like shit, mobi doubly so as it doesn't have any formatting.
Epub and mobi are practically the same.
>cheap 7" tablet
Those are dumb though. If you get a tablet, get one that's different enough from a phone to warrant the purchase.
>Isn't the rumor that the voyage is being dropped?
I hope not, but it would make sense.
The Kindle is the nigger device for people who don't know what they're doing.
The Paperwhite is the decent entry level reader.
The Voyage is the perfected device for people who read a lot
The Oasis adds a bunch of pointless meme shit that drives up the price.
I scrolled down roughly two miles on their website and could still not find any specifications, and the layout of the thing is atrocious. The level of incompetence is staggering and makes me doubt the reader is any good. Not I have any way of telling, since they decided to hide specs from prospective customers, which is suspicious in itself.
>Epub and mobi are practically the same
No they aren't. Kf8 (azw3) is a bastardized version of e-pub, and conversions often come close to looking alike, but still have formatting issues. Mobi (azw/kf7) doesn't use CSS for formatting, everything is just munged together on the page.
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>Those are dumb though
Why would I want to use a large tablet to read fiction? Phone sizes are way too small to read on, large tablets aren't comfortable to read fiction, 7-8" is the perfect size.
>device for people who don't know what they're doing
That's basically all the Amazon ereaders. Anyone who knows what they are doing buy kobo, onyx, BQ Cervantes or similar.
I didn't have any problem finding them
>everything is just munged together on the page.
Nobody but you has that problem, since mobi has text formatting.
If you just want to read fiction, a reader is hands down the best device. If you want to do ablet stuff, you need a bigger screen than 7". If you are okay with 7", you should probably get a 7" phone, since that's again better than a tablet at that size.
7" tablets just make no sense.
>That's basically all the Amazon ereaders
Buying shit tech for ideological reasons is idiotic.
I gave up after a while. If they can't even design a website they probably can't design a high tech device either. I looked up a review and that basically confirmed it. It's twice the price of a Oasis with a shittier screen and cheaper build quality.
>they reminded me of my own stupidity so I'll never buy anything from them
The remarkable is a bit too expensive to buy with food stamps anyway dum dum
>since mobi has text formatting
No it doesn't. Mobi has no formatting at all, ereaders apply very basic formatting to text blocks. Use kindleunpack and examine the resulting files - one unformatted HTML file and some images. Now unpack a kf8 or epub file and look at those - CSS is used to format how it looks on the page (which can be overridden by an ereader, if preferred)
Spend a little time researching the formats before spouting off shit and advising people to buy complete garbage. I even linked you to the mobileread pages for the Amazon formats.
>If you are okay with 7", you should probably get a 7" phone
I would if they made bezel less phones of that size. But I'd still use a separate tablet to read on. Why on earth would I use a phone that serves lots of other duties and has a battery that will be dead in a day when I can use my tablet which holds a charge for weeks?
Using a phone as a reader is the most nonsense thing you've said.
I own a voyage (which was a gift), an aura one, and an onyxbook. In the past I've owned multiple kobo, nook and Sony models and a paperwhite. For fiction the tablet is better than them all. I understand others get eye strain, making a tablet unsuitable for them but it suits me perfectly.
>I would if they made bezel less phones of that size. But I'd still use a separate tablet to read on
As an addendum to that, if it was to read outdoors I'd use an eink ereader, obviously. Outdoors being the only time I could ever see using a phone to read.
>It's twice the price of a Oasis with a shittier screen and cheaper build quality.
That's because it's better
I just looked over the specs of the Oasis (btw had to scroll miles on Amazon's own page to reach them)
The screens have the exact same underlying technology, as they are both based on Carta e-inks
On surface, remarkable screen is again better as it similares the feel of paper, specially when using the stylus
The only aspect I can think the Oasis beats the remarkable is at pixel density, but the former has a 7" display and the latter a 10.3", not to mention the current iteration of the Oasis was released later than the remarkable
mobi has all formatting a text can possibly need. It's not just one mass as you claimed. What is missing for you?
inb4 some retarded specialist shit that's not used in regular books.
I don't know what to say, since you claim 1+1=3, you enjoy your shit gadget I guess.
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I love my kindle paperwhite. Can I have some kindle book store credit now?
Kindle paperwhite. However I haven't gotten to use it much ever since I started engineering school.
We've gone from
>Epub and mobi are practically the same.
to
>mobi has all formatting a text can possibly need
via
>mobi has text formatting
(After it was pointed out they have none)
What a wild ride, the goalposts dizzy after all that.
Again, the azw/kf7 format contains no formatting and ereaders apply a very basic formatting to the block of text. Plenty of sci-fi and fantasy epubs use more advanced formatting, different fonts for chapter headings or chapters written from a different characters POV, basic tables etc. None of which is possible with mobi, and is lost if you convert. Converting epub2mobi is like recording a TV screen with your cell and watching that - it works but it's a miserable experience compared to the real thing.
would the ipad (2017) make for a good device to read ebooks and manga?
All these statements are perfectly consistent you retard. All you can come up with is using different fonts for different chapters. What the fuck is that even. No decent book uses meme shit like that. I've certainly never seen it in any book in my entire life, only on shitty myspcae pages and early web 1.0 websites.
Yes.
Fuck me, the goalposts are now in orbit.
Don't forget to pick up your Amazon check on the way out.
You keep avoiding answering the question and moving the goalpost, it's pretty obvious that you tried to look smart on the internets and it went wrong and now you're at least trying to avoid to look like a pathetic idiot, but that's not working either. Just stop.
1. How are you going to hold it without looking like a dumbass if it has no decent bezel?
2. Does it really fucking matter that it looks sturdy?
Cheer up user
Also what does SoL stand for?
I don't see you making arguments as to why the Oasis is better
It's also funny you mentioned that the layout in the remarkable is bad when the Oasis is a hideous piece of tech
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Oasis has a higher dpi screen (better legibility), front light (contrast comparable to high quality printed books, independence from light sources), a glass front (can be kept clean, damage resistant), better holding comfort and page turn buttons, and it's water proof.
So basically it's vastly superior in every way when it comes to reading.
>Higher doing
And smaller screen size
>Front light
Only valid argument, but only present in the oasis because it's newer than remarkable
>Glass front
Easily scratched and cracked, can't simulate paper feel on glass (remarkable's biggest selling point)
>Better holding comfort
I disagree, the step on the back makes it uncomfortable
>Page turn buttons
So like remarkable?
>Water proof
Half point for that one
On the other hand remarkable has Wacom stylus with 1024 levels of pressure and tilt sensor, pdf and epub support, is able to create documents (blank or from multiple templates) by itself and can annotate them
And I mean actually annotate them like you would on a computer, not the half assed shit regular ereaders do
As I said in my first post, remarkable is a more than an e-reader
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Your points don't apply in real life. It's the equivalent of:
>metal vehicle
>flying in the air
I actually used both, and I bet you used neither type of device.
10" is a liability unless you're reading manga, not an advantage.
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>page turn buttons
Not where you hold the thing, so they might as well not exist I mean.
Lol, I really hit the nail on the head. How many of these are you going to post?
A light source isn't exactly hard to come by in this day and age so what's your point exactly?