Mechs

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It can only be powered by diesel or hydrogen fuel cells.

No would have to have something to turn the coal power into electricity such as steam which would add weight.

come back to /m/ bro
we're still waiting for ArmoredCore6 and that's never ever as fuck

it could run on water but big oil and big gov would never allow it. they'd most certainly send their men in black to assassinate you.

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Some kind of futuristic battery.
But walkers are stupid and ridiculously impractical. Ignoring the obvious power issues, Their center of gravity is way too high so they can easily be tipped over and destroyed by hits a normal tank would shrug off.
Useful if you want to get a lot of cargo over rugged terrain I guess, like what Big Dog by Boston Dynamics was for. But for literally any other use a tracked or wheeled vehicle is better in every way.
Even for cargo across rough terrain, dropping stuff out of a plane is still better in almost every way. Really the only good use for them is Big Dog, following soldiers around impossible terrain and carrying their shit.

welp how about a battery powered by diesel and doodoo-tube plugged into anus as a backup ?

What about assaulting on rough/unsettled terrain?

nuclear

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steam

Even if you have some kind of futuristic walker that doesn't have power issues, you still have many tons of armor and weaponry suspended in the air.
The second it gets hit with a big enough explosive, whether it be a landmine or a rocket, its going to tip over. And it would weigh so much that there is no way you'll be able to right it in the field, especially if you are being shot at.
Even if explosives didn't exist, whoever you are attacking could simply get a winch and pull it over Star Wars style.
And if the terrain is so rough a tank can't cross it, that means the enemies also cannot use vehicles, worst case scenario it is a fair fight (not really though, our infantry still have more advanced gear, training, and tactical support than anyone we could be fighting).
But like I said, with a couple of Big Dogs supporting an infantry unit you have a pretty big advantage even without tanks for cover.

It puzzles me how inefficient walkers are but yet after all these years of evolution most creatures (as in most of these that I see daily) don't have any wheel-like capabilities. There are some rolling spiders, but that's about that. Why are there no wheeled or tracked creatures? Is it because it's a fairly complicated construction and there was no sensible step between living creatures and wheeled creatures (so it would require a severe mutation) or is it just that wheels are only useful in landscape shaped by man?

>is it just that wheels are only useful in landscape shaped by man?
yes

>no sensible step
You had it right there too. They aren't really useful without roads, but how would something evolve wheels? Think how they work. It's a round doughnut shape that revolves around a spoke of some kind. How would an animal evolve a separate detached system of movement like that?

not only would they only be useful on roads made by humans, but it would take a long time to grow a "wheel" and it would have to break off and be an independent object to actually roll. So until the animal fully developed it would need some other way to get around, and also if the "wheel" broke the animal would be fucked.

Nature is usually shit at making shapes like circles or right triangles.
If you had to evolve, let's say ants, into having wheels they'd need some generations where their wheels are shaped like eggs, making their movements weird, messing with their joints and driving mates away.

small scale fusion engine

Floor plates that charge the mech batteries wirelessly.

that way you can only fight on very specific locations
brilliant

So you can put the mechs on a carrier. Charge it with nuclear power. And then deploy them. And if they run out of juice you bring them back in.

why the fuck would you need wireless charging if they're not going to move anyway
just plug the things

Why would you need wires?

>an ape finds a round stone
>starts rolling on it
>a generation of apes rolling on stones emerges
Damn, sounds familiar

because its more efficient?

Evolution creates not what's best but what's good enough to survive. Legs are good enough, it seems.

but that's a stone. user asked about an animal EVOLVING wheels.

You introduce more parts that can break. And weak spots in the armor. And most bases and platforms produce more power than they can use.

>this is Matrix
What the fuck they were thinking, this shit should have ended on the original

A very, very long cable. You can name the system with a maternal theme.

A cruise missile attack way faster over rough terrain than a walker. You can always send cheap disposable proles to take actual control after the dust settles.

wireless charging strong enough to pierce the armor would require 10 times more power than regular charging
you got an issue with reloaded and revolution m8?

More so battery packs. If its going to be a war mech, those battery packs will be easy replaceable battery packs.

Each one would probably house ~100 kilowatt of battery power for sufficient independent movement. Tesla cars can currently carry ~100 kilowatt with some upgrades.

A laser beam from space.

Everyone can see them coming from a mile away anyway.

>you got an issue with reloaded and revolution m8?
Yes. Everything went wrong

Pleb

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I have studied this topic for some time. The only realistic option right now is a polonium RTG. It still takes more advancement in building up RTG efficiency but it is very possible to power a mech.

Energy harnessed from Mt Fuji and folded a million times

The tried and proven method.

Add a jaw. And let it consume biological matter to burn it for fuel.

You. The original was actually excellent, 9.5/10 I would say, but then they started to drop the ball on Reloaded with all those action scenes instead of really focusing on the plot. Revolutions was just terrible, the movie had no pacing and the ending was absolute trash. If you think that Matrix shouldn't have ended on the first movie, you are the pleb.

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Go cry some more.

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nice selfie senpai

a blimp could pull them

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Hybrid, diesel electric like the subs of ww2, diesel charges the electric, can run loud or quiet, also want to see them vtol'd in

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Such a poor soul. Doesn't know what a mirror is.

Keep posting, they are great!

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>No armor

Preferably you would then feed it the corpses of your enemies. So as long as enemies are nearby it can keep going. Just like in nature.

this, its the same reason we still have fish eyes

Small scale Mechs aren't about taking out tanks. They're about getting a trooper to point A with more gear faster with the hope the gear and saved time will help them take out enemy troopers more efficiently. That's why Darpa is only looking into the pack assist mechs.

Someday, we may have a government make similar mistakes as those made by the usa with the Bradly fighting vehicle and make a poorly executed bipedal tank target.

Of course there's no armor because battle mechs are a concept that is retarded on its face. It's a worker/builder/excavator mech that they were forced to mount machine guns to because it's the end times.

>Fat people don't produce much energy
Fat people are literally walking batteries.
Go back to school.

>using troopers when you have autonomous vehicles

This. Once you feed fat people to the mech they will burn twice as long.

Honestly I can't ever see mechs taking off, they just don't have enough up-side, and the mobile independent platform is too restrictive, AND puts you in a situation where you're simply a massive target.

For defending a fixed installation you'd want more powerful stationary defensive weapons.

For mobile firepower, air superiority is by far more effective.

Mechs are cool, but don't seem too practical outside of the basic exo-suit style where it simply provides a physical assistance. A mobile tank platform superweapon seems a bit far-fetched.

That's a pretty stupid way of looking at it desu. There's no way evolution would create 50 billion different variations on tendrils and legs and zero wheels just because they happened to not think of it.

And, honestly, the mechanics of why wheels would be so hard for organisms of vast interconnected hydrocarbon networks far more concerned with regeneration than with tensile strength should be clear enough. There's a reason you replace your wheels so often and also a reason why drive-trains snap.

jet turbines have the highest power to weight ratio i think. nuclear needs cooling and shielding.

It's such a shame Bradley's namesake is damaged because of that thing.

Take the coal from every thot that has taken the toll and you can power the entire universe 50 times over.

>exo-suit style
so power armor. Starship Troopers got it right. (the book, not the movie)

Aren't tanks these days just used to show to the enemy that you control that area?

>apu

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>evolution is a sentient being
wut?

Hard to say, we haven't had modern tank engagements much.

Most engagements we've seen in the past few decades are against older tech.

If we were to actually have a true war with an adversary that can match us in technology, it's hard to say what role tanks might play.

As they've been used over the past 2 decades by the US however, they are mainly just used as a show of force and a deterrent to the much less advanced hostile forces.

A proper mech should have spider legs for rough terrain. Where vehicles cant go.

If you add the ability to submerge itself then you can also do sneak attacks and troop deployments with it.

Animatrix showed why having armor on the walkers is a bad idea. Better to die quickly when they slice and dice you than to die slowly when they cut the armor off then rip you out while your limbs are still tied to the machine.

By aliens crashing from meteors and using their tentacles to take over your body penetrating through your anus or vagina

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Diesel/electric probably.
Diesel generator that only charges the batteries and then electric traction motors.

Pocket nuclear fusion.

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meme hcci rotary hybrid running on LNG

Hi-Ero particles

with self loathing and teenage drama

>They are withing the bodies of all living creatures in the universe, Kōichi Madanbashi gets these particles by groping females
forgot about this show after the mc died

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powercell, electric and that's used by hydraulics or whatever new material shit is used to move the limbs.
Current problem we don't have a reliable small powercell powerful enough to produce that kind of energy and even if we had that I don't think we have the material tech to build the rest of the mech body

Miniature thorium reactors

Alternatively, miniature fission reactors, for that nukepunk feel.

What about a very compact tank where you lied down in it to pilot it
meaning it sat very low to the floor

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You aren't thinking straight. Even without armor they can still grab each limb and pull...

You messed your drone up.. It has legs and is too heavy.

With Bitcoin.

>2 large male adults
you have 250-300 watts max, now what?

the materials...

Supercharged pushrod V8 running on 105 octane. That's the only way.

Xiaomi portable charger

out of my mind i can give you one animal and two insects rolling to move.
This is as close as a wheel as it gets.

Orphan tears. Just like everything else in this womp womp universe.

I had forgotten that glorious movie. Thanks, user.

piezoelectric generator

based apu

Electricity right?

What the fuck else would you use.

the majority of life is in the water. there, you don't need legs or wheels.

My headcanon sorrounding the entire battletech universe is that it's essentially the giant robot version of the space race russia and the US had. Using huge amounts of resources for what amounts to dick measuring compared to all-out war. Don't get me wrong, the battles the mechs fight in have real stakes, but let's be real here, if these mighty houses actually put the same amount of resources to efficient means of blowing each other up, it would result in total annihilation.

Battlemechs are the least cost effective thing that could be conceived of, for the price of a Blood Asp you could probably carpet bomb a landmass the size of of Texas into scorched earth, but instead you choose to spend it on this badass robot that can at best destroy a city given enough time.

The main advantage of all of this is that it allows these houses to flex their vast multi-planet economies against one another on the battlefield while still keeping the gloves on so everyone doesn't die. It's also a great point of national pride, if your mechs and pilots are better than the oppositions, morale will be high in general, they make great symbols as well as tools of war.

And no one wants to break these rules of engagement by trying to be logistically efficient with munitions and resources, in fear of what could follow.

This has always been my headcanon, anyway. It's not really suggested anywhere in the lore but it's the only way I can believe this universe works the way it does.

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